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Gandalf The White
18 April 2024 10:55:46

I saw that, but obviously the timing is wrong, though not so wrong as to put conspiracy theorists off. The BBC link (in the Conspiracy Thread) however contains the statement (my bold)
BBC Weather meteorologist Matt Taylor also noted the severe weather event had already been forecast. "Ahead of the event, computer models (that don't factor in potential cloud seeding effects) were already predicting well over a year's worth of rain to fall in around 24 hours," he said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68839043 

That won't deter conspiracy theory either!

EDIT I suppose you could maintain that the prior seeding worsened the bad situation already predicted. I always understood that the silver iodide or whatever was being used for seeding had a temporary and local effect, being washed out by the rain generated - but does anyone know know for certain how long it remains aloft?

Originally Posted by: DEW 



What puzzled me was that if the forecast was showing torrential rain then why bother seeding at all?
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22 April 2024 07:19:48
Tens of thousands evacuated from massive China floods
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp0gd5ezj9lo 

A flood-prone province in S China, but apparently worse than usual. Reuters refer to the floods as 'unseasonal' while BBC radio was commenting on abnormally stormy weather with hail large enough to crack windscreens.
 
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24 April 2024 07:52:27
Orange Sahara dust haze descends over Athens

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68887377 
Spectacular photos assuming they've not been retouched.
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Jiries
24 April 2024 08:36:26

Orange Sahara dust haze descends over Athens

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68887377 
Spectacular photos assuming they've not been retouched.

Originally Posted by: DEW 



Interesting read and another interesting weather event after Dubai storms last week.   That true it look like Mars atmosphere but not sure how high the temperatures reached in Mars during the dust storm that often come with high temps.  HIghest there this year Sol was 9C max and 19C ground level, last year I think was 24C and 16C respectively before diving to minus figures soon after.
Roger Parsons
26 April 2024 15:10:44
A rare sighting of five funnel clouds forming over County Wicklow in the Republic of Ireland has been captured on camera.
They were spotted by wildlife photographer David De Courcy over Wicklow Harbour on Friday morning.

Rare sight of five funnel clouds captured on camera
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2rnx8271go 
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28 April 2024 17:30:55
Extreme heat in Manila with 38C braking a record which has stood for over 100 years., and persisting for several days. Add in humidity and effectively it's 46C
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-28/philippines-shuts-schools-as-heat-in-capital-busts-1915-record?embedded-checkout=true 

Of course, global warming is driven by energy consumption, so the first thing to do in a heat wave is to use more power in the form of air conditioning!
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The Beast from the East
29 April 2024 01:01:26

Extreme heat in Manila with 38C braking a record which has stood for over 100 years., and persisting for several days. Add in humidity and effectively it's 46C
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-28/philippines-shuts-schools-as-heat-in-capital-busts-1915-record?embedded-checkout=true 

Of course, global warming is driven by energy consumption, so the first thing to do in a heat wave is to use more power in the form of air conditioning!

Originally Posted by: DEW 



Surprised that was their record, but I suppose tropical climates dont get that high but humidity makes it feel hotter than it is 
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Jiries
29 April 2024 04:42:25

Surprised that was their record, but I suppose tropical climates dont get that high but humidity makes it feel hotter than it is 

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 



The highest temperature ever recorded in the Philippines was 42.2°C (108.0°F) in Tuguegarao City, Cagayan on May 11, 1969.

Surprised it did not break that record this year.  I also know Manila did reached 40C sometimes at some past years before. 
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29 April 2024 05:28:01
I still follow temps in that part of the world.
I'm sure when I was there in 1998 in an El Nino there were similar temps. Manila in particular was hot.
What I've noticed this year is that people over there refer to heat index figures more than they used to.
The south west monsoon (Habagat) will begin soon and with it cooler, relatively speaking, temps.
The high humidity is the hard part to live in.
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Jiries
29 April 2024 05:56:29

I still follow temps in that part of the world.
I'm sure when I was there in 1998 in an El Nino there were similar temps. Manila in particular was hot.
What I've noticed this year is that people over there refer to heat index figures more than they used to.
The south west monsoon (Habagat) will begin soon and with it cooler, relatively speaking, temps.
The high humidity is the hard part to live in.

Originally Posted by: NMA 



I noticed that and can be misleading and confused them as many are not into weather.  We don’t use this index here at all but sprouting up there as they upgraded their weather station equipments.
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06 May 2024 08:14:30
Serious floods in Tanzania and Kenya - 400 dead - about to be compounded by cyclone Hidaya
https://watchers.news/2024/05/03/tropical-cyclone-hidaya-heading-toward-tanzania-and-kenya/ 
https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2024/05/a-rare-tropical-cyclone-landfall-is-on-tap-for-tanzania/ 
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Chunky Pea
18 May 2024 11:04:56
That big storm in southern Texas the other evening turned day into night. Freaky stuff.



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Joe Bloggs
21 May 2024 12:09:46
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8889d7x8j4o 

Always goes to show - keep your seatbelt fastened, especially during wet season. 

I have had some horrible turbulence over the Bay of Bengal and wider areas of SE Asia over the years. 

Latest maps show occasional CBs all the way up to 50,000 feet - must be very difficult for pilots to navigate through weather like that. 

https://www.turbulenceforecast.com/maps/india-middle-east.gif 

RIP to the poor soul who died. 
 

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Retron
21 May 2024 13:00:56

That big storm in southern Texas the other evening turned day into night. Freaky stuff.


Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


I've seen something similar once, and only once: heading to my nan's house with my parents, around the year 2000. Even though it was the middle of the day (summer, I think), it turned into dusk... it was like driving at 4PM on a cloudy late November afternoon.

There was some epic hail and thunder from that, though, and of course it didn't last for long. By the time we were heading home (around 5PM) the sun was shining and you would never have known how dark it had been!

(And no, it wasn't the eclipse - I watched that from my back garden!)
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Jiries
22 May 2024 12:06:12

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8889d7x8j4o 

Always goes to show - keep your seatbelt fastened, especially during wet season. 

I have had some horrible turbulence over the Bay of Bengal and wider areas of SE Asia over the years. 

Latest maps show occasional CBs all the way up to 50,000 feet - must be very difficult for pilots to navigate through weather like that. 

https://www.turbulenceforecast.com/maps/india-middle-east.gif 

RIP to the poor soul who died. 
 

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 



I had been over to Singapore then to Manila, that route they take over Nico islands always get nasty turnulence every time we passed over follow by a slight drop on height then flight back to smooth.  I think they should re-route and avoid those areas with islands west of Thailand as it seem a turbulence zone
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tierradelfuego
22 May 2024 12:55:04

I had been over to Singapore then to Manila, that route they take over Nico islands always get nasty turnulence every time we passed over follow by a slight drop on height then flight back to smooth.  I think they should re-route and avoid those areas with islands west of Thailand as it seem a turbulence zone

Originally Posted by: Jiries 



I do that flight most years as well Jiries, or at least down to Singapore and onto Australia, yes it is often pretty turbulent.

I think the point though is that it isn't the islands that cause it, as they really aren't big enough to create that level of turbulence.

It is more to do with flying over the ITCZ, so re-routing wouldn't make a difference. I have also flown direct to Bangkok and to Brazil, neither of which fly over the islands and it was just as bad once you got down into the ITCZ. The ITCZ obviously moves north and south though with the seasons so some years can be worse than others, depending on the time of year I fly.
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LeedsLad123
22 May 2024 13:34:08

That big storm in southern Texas the other evening turned day into night. Freaky stuff.



Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


I know a few people in Houston and they tell me they’re tired of living there - they are looking to move due to the risk of severe weather all year and it only seems to be getting worse, with hurricanes and flooding being especially big threats but the summer heat and humidity is getting to be too much. Home insurance rates are sky high and some companies have even abandoned the Houston market entirely.

it’s one of the cities that will be most affected by climate change moving forward.
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Rob K
23 May 2024 15:18:47
https://x.com/WeatherProf/status/1793310148728926595 

Tropical eastern Atlantic temperatures already on a par with what would be seen in mid August. Totally unprecedented and off the charts.
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Gandalf The White
23 May 2024 16:48:11

https://x.com/WeatherProf/status/1793310148728926595 

Tropical eastern Atlantic temperatures already on a par with what would be seen in mid August. Totally unprecedented and off the charts.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 



I’ve been keeping an eye on ocean and land surface temperatures - the ocean is at crazy high levels and those tracking this are very worried by the unprecedented heat, just hoping that somehow it might be El Niño related (which I don’t see how it can be).

When you think about how much energy is required to heat water (v air) that’s an awful lot of energy.
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Roger Parsons
23 May 2024 20:12:42

I’ve been keeping an eye on ocean and land surface temperatures - the ocean is at crazy high levels and those tracking this are very worried by the unprecedented heat, just hoping that somehow it might be El Niño related (which I don’t see how it can be).

When you think about how much energy is required to heat water (v air) that’s an awful lot of energy.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

This BBC piece seems to follow that neatly...
"As many as 13 Atlantic hurricanes of category one or above are forecast for the period, which runs from June to November.
Record high sea surface temperatures are partly to blame, as is a likely shift in regional weather patterns.
While there's no evidence climate change is producing more hurricanes, it is making the most powerful ones more likely, and bringing heavier rainfall.
"This [hurricane] season is looking to be an extraordinary one," NOAA administrator Rick Spinrad said in a news conference."

The old 1950s mnemonic ran:
"June - too soon.
July - stand by.
August - come it must.
September - remember!
October - all over."
Only now the season seems at least a month longer.

Atlantic to get 'extraordinary' hurricane season
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw441ng00wxo 
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