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tallyho_83
13 July 2025 11:48:19

What I find unusual is the fact the far south east and south in general has been colder than the central and western parts of UK including North west. For instance yesterday 33c was recorded in parts of North Devon, North Somerset and Bristol etc where as London was colder and today the temperature in London is 24c where as it's already 30c in the west country. - Why is this? As I type it is 21c in Brighton yet 30c in Swansea, Liverpool, Cardiff etc.

Usually it;s the south east that is very hot and breaks records not the west - why is this?

Another thing I notice. - Night-time temperatures a night or so back I was driving back from Torquay to Okehampton and at 0100am it was 14-15c between Torquay and Newton Abbot and then when I got to Okehampton (West Devon) it was 19-20c at 02:00am and felt very sticky 


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JOHN NI
14 July 2025 07:37:25

What I find unusual is the fact the far south east and south in general has been colder than the central and western parts of UK including North west. For instance yesterday 33c was recorded in parts of North Devon, North Somerset and Bristol etc where as London was colder and today the temperature in London is 24c where as it's already 30c in the west country. - Why is this? As I type it is 21c in Brighton yet 30c in Swansea, Liverpool, Cardiff etc.

Usually it;s the south east that is very hot and breaks records not the west - why is this?

Another thing I notice. - Night-time temperatures a night or so back I was driving back from Torquay to Okehampton and at 0100am it was 14-15c between Torquay and Newton Abbot and then when I got to Okehampton (West Devon) it was 19-20c at 02:00am and felt very sticky 

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

Suggest on your drive you were driving ‘uphill’ and into warmer air above the surface. In relation to why max temps were higher further west, the plume of high low level thickness air was carried further west due to the wider scale Synoptics and position of the upper ridge/high. It’s relatively common in some years.


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tallyho_83
14 July 2025 11:46:44

Suggest on your drive you were driving ‘uphill’ and into warmer air above the surface. In relation to why max temps were higher further west, the plume of high low level thickness air was carried further west due to the wider scale Synoptics and position of the upper ridge/high. It’s relatively common in some years.

Originally Posted by: JOHN NI 

Must be and same for last night - there was even fog lower down. It's ironic thinking the higher you go the more humid /warmer it get's at night haha!


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20 July 2025 07:28:37

Heaviest rains in 120 years leave at least 2 dead, force over 1 000 evacuations in South Korea

https://watchers.news/2025/07/17/heaviest-rain-120-years-south-korea-evacuations-deaths/ 


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tallyho_83
22 July 2025 14:47:50

Look at the heart of Siberia right now experiencing a major heatwave - Verkhoyansk some 67.5' N could get temperatures of +32c tomorrow (later today their time)

https://weather.metoffice.gov.uk/forecast/yunb7s4um#?date=2025-07-23 

Must break records surely? for that northern latitude? 


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tallyho_83
22 July 2025 14:49:42

Look at the heart of Siberia right now experiencing a major heatwave - Verkhoyansk some 67.5' N could get temperatures of +32c tomorrow (later today their time)

https://weather.metoffice.gov.uk/forecast/yunb7s4um#?date=2025-07-23 

Must break records surely? for that northern latitude? 

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

Summer temps exceeding +30c mark in Verkhoyansk is not uncommon looking at WIKI:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verkhoyansk 


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Viking3
22 July 2025 18:26:38

There is an astonishing heatwave ongoing across especially central Norway and Sweden at present. The consistently highest temperatures have been between Trondheim and the Arctic Circle and some stations have been above 30C for 11 consecutive days. I don't think anywhere in the UK has had anything comparable? The highest temperature from an official station was 34.9C somewhere around Trondheim on 17th July, but a couple of PWS on the Weather Underground network in the general area recorded 36-37C that day.

It looks like there may be another couple of days of the sustained heat before it starts to shift east.


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22 July 2025 20:37:56

Summer temps exceeding +30c mark in Verkhoyansk is not uncommon looking at WIKI:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verkhoyansk 

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

I always have Batagay (about 70km away) on my Samsung weather app. They get similar extremes to Verkhoyansk and temperatures at or above 30C are quite common there too, but prolonged heat is less so. Batagay is looking at 6 days of 30C+ which is unusual.


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Jiries
24 July 2025 20:59:05

Proper heatwave in Nicosia and Santa Claus in Lapland so both got 44.7C and 34C respectively so why our last 3 heatwave was short changed? They predicted 5 to 7 days each and all failed.  This summer will be remembered for missed chances for high temps record. 

scillydave
27 July 2025 06:38:47
Turkey broke its national record yesterday apparently. 

A staggering 50.5c in Silopi!

That's the first time Turkey has breached the 50c mark.

This is also a new European continental record, beating that set in Sicily of 48.8c in August 2021.

Scary times.


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Jiries
27 July 2025 10:49:41

Turkey broke its national record yesterday apparently. 

A staggering 50.5c in Silopi!

That's the first time Turkey has breached the 50c mark.

This is also a new European continental record, beating that set in Sicily of 48.8c in August 2021.

Scary times.

Originally Posted by: scillydave 

Shame UK missed out potential record heat since Lapland get to 34C and 50.5 in Turkey we would get here 41C or even 42C.  This stupid Low to the north and HP refusing to move in for some purpose reason.

doctormog
27 July 2025 11:48:59

Turkey broke its national record yesterday apparently. 

A staggering 50.5c in Silopi!

That's the first time Turkey has breached the 50c mark.

This is also a new European continental record, beating that set in Sicily of 48.8c in August 2021.

Scary times.

Originally Posted by: scillydave 

It will be a national record but I don’t think it will count as a European record as the location is in Asia?


Bertwhistle
27 July 2025 14:08:19

There is an astonishing heatwave ongoing across especially central Norway and Sweden at present. The consistently highest temperatures have been between Trondheim and the Arctic Circle and some stations have been above 30C for 11 consecutive days. I don't think anywhere in the UK has had anything comparable? The highest temperature from an official station was 34.9C somewhere around Trondheim on 17th July, but a couple of PWS on the Weather Underground network in the general area recorded 36-37C that day.

It looks like there may be another couple of days of the sustained heat before it starts to shift east.

Originally Posted by: Viking3 

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Jiries
27 July 2025 14:42:13

It will be a national record but I don’t think it will count as a European record as the location is in Asia?

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

Or Middle East which seem to fit in?  Before Cyprus joined EU it used to be called part of MIddle East when i used to live there.  Those 50.5 temps are happening as they got big landmass.  For Cyprus a small island always struggle to get to over 45C as this heatwave run between 43C to 44.7 the highest due to very small landmass just less than 40 miles max width from the foothill of the mountains to Nicosia and to the SE.  If Cyprus was double or triple bigger landmass then 50C would be easily reached.

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30 July 2025 01:22:38

Serious flooding in Beijing. Hardly got any coverage in the media.  


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https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2025/07/15-sources-of-wildfire-smoke-forecasts-for-north-america/ 

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Jiries
01 August 2025 13:40:36

33C at Santa Claus. Lapland with full sunshine now some clouds forming.  They have a good summer than the UK and here is poor only 31C the highest so if there was a correction with temps profile Scotland should be getting 35C, 37C North Uk, 38-40C Midlands to the south..

I notice the flowers sitting at the bottom of the temperature gauge stand are in full blooim at the arctic circle?  Here i don't see any good flowers around here and my next door neighour put some had not grown to full bloom that you expect in August is now dying.  Glad I cancelled my plan to buy fhowers on my new updated garden, summers flowers used to be very full bloom in the 90's summers until it get worst this decade thanks to the aggressive rain and cold in summer or too dry and cloudy weather.  Flowers need sun and rain every now and then.

Hungry Tiger
02 August 2025 20:03:51
World record heat index recorded in Iran. Imagine this. 

If you thought this past week was hot in America, Iran might have set a new record for the hottest Heat Index ever recorded at 182°F! On Thursday July 31, 2025 at about 9:30 AM the air temperature at Qeshm Dayrestan Airport in Iran was 104°F with a dew point of 97°F creating a heat index of 182°F! This would break the previous record of 180°F set at the same location just last year on August 28.


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Retron
03 August 2025 04:07:33

World record heat index recorded in Iran. Imagine this. 

If you thought this past week was hot in America, Iran might have set a new record for the hottest Heat Index ever recorded at 182°F! On Thursday July 31, 2025 at about 9:30 AM the air temperature at Qeshm Dayrestan Airport in Iran was 104°F with a dew point of 97°F creating a heat index of 182°F! This would break the previous record of 180°F set at the same location just last year on August 28.

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 

That dew point is very close to human body temperature. Would you drown due to condensation in the lungs if it went above 37C or so, I wonder? 


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Jiries
03 August 2025 09:29:31

That dew point is very close to human body temperature. Would you drown due to condensation in the lungs if it went above 37C or so, I wonder? 

Originally Posted by: Retron 

Thought Iran is a arid location like Namibia? It mostly desert and impossible to be so humid where not much rain in summer?  It only in the tropic get those high dewpoints but in the mid 20's levels despite lot of rain there.

Meanwhile the runaway heat in Lapland continue this morning already 27C and full sunshine with summer blue skies type.  The sun angle more like March in here judging from the shadow length of the Arctic Lamp stands.

Chunky Pea
03 August 2025 10:44:42

Meanwhile the runaway heat in Lapland continue this morning already 27C and full sunshine with summer blue skies type.  The sun angle more like March in here judging from the shadow length of the Arctic Lamp stands.

Originally Posted by: Jiries 

Lapland is also located on the biggest landmass on the planet in the warmest part of the year.  It's going to get warmer at a lower sun angle. When you live on a tiny, humid north Atantic island as do you and I, the same sun angle is not going to produce the same result. 


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Jiries
03 August 2025 11:04:40

Lapland is also located on the biggest landmass on the planet in the warmest part of the year.  It's going to get warmer at a lower sun angle. When you live on a tiny, humid north Atantic island as do you and I, the same sun angle is not going to produce the same result. 

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 

Landmass or not UK can get same prolonged warm sunny weather if idiot HP did not stay stuck to the SW since mid July otherwise we would be under same set up as in Lapland.  Also the models has been 100% wrong and extremely inaccurate due to back tracking 100% all the time.  We do not have any accurate forecast tools anymore to know what it will be like as early as tomorrow.  

Chunky Pea
03 August 2025 11:26:36

Landmass or not UK can get same prolonged warm sunny weather if idiot HP did not stay stuck to the SW since mid July otherwise we would be under same set up as in Lapland.  Also the models has been 100% wrong and extremely inaccurate due to back tracking 100% all the time.  We do not have any accurate forecast tools anymore to know what it will be like as early as tomorrow.  

Originally Posted by: Jiries 

I agree, a high located to the SW is repulsive, but that is the is the price we pay for living in a temperate, maritime influenced very northerly location. Models aren't perfect, but they are there to serve as a guide only not be the be all and end all, even at a shorter range. 


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Chunky Pea
03 August 2025 11:32:58

An example of how even the high res models can not get things perfect was here yesterday evening. A lot more rain fell that was forecast, but pin pointing the broader pattern they were spot on. And this is where you have to apply your own intituation as well when looking at them. The intense humidity yesterday would have been an real time indicater that a lot of moisture was in the air just waiting to be activated. 


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03 August 2025 13:24:54

Landmass or not UK can get same prolonged warm sunny weather if idiot HP did not stay stuck to the SW since mid July otherwise we would be under same set up as in Lapland.  Also the models has been 100% wrong and extremely inaccurate due to back tracking 100% all the time.  We do not have any accurate forecast tools anymore to know what it will be like as early as tomorrow.  

Originally Posted by: Jiries 

I’m not sure I can agree with that George. Surely the storm for tomorrow is well modelled, and the first signs of it were several days ago. But let’s see if the actual depression forecast is a complete 100% fail. I can agree though that forecasting showery activity for IMBY is iffy. Waiting for rain this spring and summer is a ‘waiting for Godot’ experience for me. Unusually dry here still in this part of southern England. And arsonists having a field day not far away as I type.

But the synoptic trends a week out are often remarkably accurate compared to twenty, thirty or more years ago.


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