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Taylor1740
09 June 2022 08:38:32


I agree this is pretty absurd, but IIRC it was a bit of a struggle to get there last summer?


I don't remember any particularly hot spells in 2021, but 30c is almost a given most years, particularly in southern England.


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


I'm not sure anyone is writing off the chance of a 30c are they? As that would be highly unusual even 50 years ago not to get a 30c.


But as you say last Summer didn't really have any notable high temperatures and so far this Summer we are struggling a bit for especially high temperatures. I don't think we can just take it as a given that every Summer will be mega hot nowadays like some people on here seem to think.


 


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Bow Echo
09 June 2022 09:01:57


 


I'm not sure anyone is writing off the chance of a 30c are they? As that would be highly unusual even 50 years ago not to get a 30c.


But as you say last Summer didn't really have any notable high temperatures and so far this Summer we are struggling a bit for especially high temperatures. I don't think we can just take it as a given that every Summer will be mega hot nowadays like some people on here seem to think.


 


Originally Posted by: Taylor1740 


Yes. Yes they are. Quite remarkable comments sometimes on here.



 


There is strong evidence of a major pattern change having taken place and it is looking increasingly likely the uk will be experiencing a few months of average to below average temps with above average rainfall. There has been some significant cooling in many parts of the world.I would not be surprised if 30c was not reached in the uk this year.


Originally Posted by: springsunshine 


 


 


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Ally Pally Snowman
09 June 2022 09:39:06

Blowtorch runs are back. Early days but maybe some interesting weather on the way.



 


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Saint Snow
09 June 2022 09:47:55

Not exactly seeing the best set-up for long-term summer conditions for the whole of the UK



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Taylor1740
09 June 2022 10:18:54


 


Yes. Yes they are. Quite remarkable comments sometimes on here.


 


 


 


Originally Posted by: Bow Echo 


Well you may mock them now but it's not beyond the realm of possibility, 2007 and 2008 only just scraped 30c. However there's only been 5 or 6 years in the past 50 years where 30c has not been reached so it's highly unlikely.


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Ally Pally Snowman
09 June 2022 10:27:59

Well for what it's worth the GFS 6z is showing 30c this time next week. 


https://www.wetterzentrale.de/de/topkarten.php?map=20&model=gfs&var=17&run=6&time=177&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=3#mapref


 


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Ally Pally Snowman
09 June 2022 10:38:53

Lol gotta love the GFS 6z temps for next week 


Thursday 30c


Friday 33c


Saturday 32c


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moomin75
09 June 2022 10:46:53


Lol gotta love the GFS 6z temps for next week 


Thursday 30c


Friday 33c


Saturday 32c


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

Something is definitely brewing. ECM and GFS now on the same page and GEM going the same way.


One to watch....but still a long way off.


GFS still relatively short lived, but at that range, it's all up in the air in any case.


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Saint Snow
09 June 2022 11:01:48


Lol gotta love the GFS 6z temps for next week 


Thursday 30c


Friday 33c


Saturday 32c


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


Pretty localised, though.


And short-lived. By the Monday, temps are showing as plummeting back to 16-18c, with a small low tracking across the heart of England, then a big fat one anchoring off Western Scotland.


 



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Rob K
09 June 2022 11:54:40


 


 


Pretty localised, though.


And short-lived. By the Monday, temps are showing as plummeting back to 16-18c, with a small low tracking across the heart of England, then a big fat one anchoring off Western Scotland.


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


As I posted a couple of pages back, that would fit with the recent trend of summers with short but intense heatwaves. Still enough to effortlessly reach low to mid 30s though these days.


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idj20
09 June 2022 12:16:00







It seems that the deep Atlantic low pressure system containing the remnants of TS Alex is enabling a "pattern reset" with us Kent massive getting the best deal with a better chance of warmer and even drier and brighter conditions. Better than a northern blocking pattern getting stuck for weeks on end, that's for sure.










 
 







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Downpour
09 June 2022 13:50:47


 


Yes. Yes they are. Quite remarkable comments sometimes on here.


 


 


 


Originally Posted by: Bow Echo 


 


Indeed. Sometimes the hysteria and hyperbole can be mildly entertaining, but it really grates after a while.


It's almost as if some members prefer naked attention-seeking over sober analysis of the models. 


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Rob K
09 June 2022 13:56:20
Both the operational and the control go pretty scorchio on the GFS 6Z. Plenty of time to derail but I am starting to sniff something rather summery by the end of next week, even if it is of the "two hot days and a thunderstorm" variety.
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Saint Snow
09 June 2022 14:04:10

Both the operational and the control go pretty scorchio on the GFS 6Z. Plenty of time to derail but I am starting to sniff something rather summery by the end of next week, even if it is of the "two hot days and a thunderstorm" variety.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


I hate changeable summers, even if they have a handful of brief scorchio spells


 


I'd rather have 10 weeks of dry, sunny, totally settled weather even if the temp never got past 24/25c


 


 



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Downpour
09 June 2022 14:06:02


 


 


I hate changeable summers, even if they have a handful of brief scorchio spells


 


I'd rather have 10 weeks of dry, sunny, totally settled weather even if the temp never got past 24/25c


 


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


Can I gently suggest trading Wigan Pier for a windward harbour in Juan Les Pins? 


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Essan
09 June 2022 14:17:24


I'd rather have 10 weeks of dry, sunny, totally settled weather even if the temp never got past 24/25c


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



Which, in the British Isles, is as likely as 10 weeks of heavy snow with the temp rarely getting above -5c


Mind, I always get the impression most people think a "normal" summer is 10 weeks of dry, sunny, totally settled weather with the temp above 28c every day (and often above 35c).


(I do sometimes wonder whether many Britons have actually lived here very long at all )


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09 June 2022 14:50:11

 


I hate changeable summers, even if they have a handful of brief scorchio spells


I'd rather have 10 weeks of dry, sunny, totally settled weather even if the temp never got past 24/25c


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

That would be my perfect summer too!  


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moomin75
09 June 2022 16:51:57
GFS 12z again shows a very short lived (1-2 day burst) of heat followed again by a very significant cool down, almost by 15c in one day.
ECM looked a lot more stable this morning so will be interested to see how the ECM 12Z pans out.
It is starting to look like a very brief hot spell, but if GFS is right, it will be very much blink and miss it.


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100m ASL
Saint Snow
09 June 2022 17:06:31


 


 


Can I gently suggest trading Wigan Pier for a windward harbour in Juan Les Pins? 


Originally Posted by: Downpour 


 


 


Can I kindly suggest that mistaking a Sintellser for a pie-eating scumbag from Wigan is deeply insulting. You can tell us apart as we St Helens folk have just the five fingers on each hand.


 


(and, loving the South of France - in fact, France in general - I'd merrily live in Juan les Pins; but the summer temp would exceed 25c almost all the days)


 


 


Anyway, I've experienced summers in the UK that have had 10 or so weeks of settled, dry sunny weather (OK, perhaps with the odd couple of days of rain/showers dotted about)


1976, 1995, 2018 spring to mind - with plenty of others in my 50 years of existence having probably briefer periods of great, sunny weather lasting 4+ weeks.


 



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moomin75
09 June 2022 18:01:50
GEM 12Z prolongs the heat and goes into record breaking territory. 🥵🥵🥵
Now for the ECM.
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Super Cell
09 June 2022 18:02:41


Lol gotta love the GFS 6z temps for next week 


Thursday 30c


Friday 33c


Saturday 32c


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 



We set off for Gran Canaria on Thursday 16th


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40m asl
doctormog
09 June 2022 18:14:14




We set off for Gran Canaria on Thursday 16th


Originally Posted by: Super Cell 


Any chance you could stay there until August? 


P.S. Enjoy! 


Frank H
09 June 2022 18:29:41

[quote=Saint Snow;1445803]


 


 


 


Can I kindly suggest that mistaking a Sintellser for a pie-eating scumbag from Wigan is deeply insulting. You can tell us apart as we St Helens folk have just the five fingers on each hand.


 


Whilst us Wigan folk needed all our fingers to lift the Rugby League challenge cup last month.


Anyway back to the models.....


 


 


 


 


Wrightington, Wigan
ozone_aurora
09 June 2022 18:41:20


 


 


I hate changeable summers, even if they have a handful of brief scorchio spells


 


I'd rather have 10 weeks of dry, sunny, totally settled weather even if the temp never got past 24/25c


 


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Me, too, especially hate changeable, thundery summers (i.e, those with brief, 3 hot days and a thunderstorm type, then cool and showery).

Much prefer prolonged settled, sunny weather, even if not particularly hot. Wouldn't mind brief cool, wet interludes, especially if there was prolonged heatwave.

Downpour
09 June 2022 18:56:58
I feel I may have blundered into some northwestern faux pas. Apologies. Let us all move to Antibes and forget about it.


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