Rob K
27 July 2017 23:25:32

Originally Posted by: Jiries 


 


Used to reached it peak at 11C by 9th August before but with recent cooler summers they had revised down by 2-3C lower than previously.



With the way summers and winters have been going, it can't be long before the long term mean line just flatlines at about 6C all year round!


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Retron
28 July 2017 04:18:11

Originally Posted by: Jiries 


 


Used to reached it peak at 11C by 9th August before but with recent cooler summers they had revised down by 2-3C lower than previously.



No, it didn't. Tinypic's playing up, so I can't hotlink an image, but suffice to say even in 2008 the mean on the 9th August was 8C.


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DEW
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28 July 2017 06:04:30

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


There must be a low pressure magnate off the NW of Scotland this year. Favourite roosting place for pesky depressions.



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Brian Gaze
28 July 2017 08:34:57

Still looks mixed but the heat hump remains in early August and there are signs of high pressure keeping things drier in the south at times.



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Rob K
28 July 2017 09:26:01
Yes it seems "drier" is about the best we can hope for - certainly no warmth on offer apart from the briefest of tepid pulses.

http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gfs/00_228_mslp500.png?cb=983 

http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/ecm/240_mslp500.png?cb=983 
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Charmhills
28 July 2017 10:11:17


GFS ems for Loughborough.


Average to below average temps with some rain from time to time.


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doctormog
28 July 2017 16:35:26
To be fair that Low is expected to shift a bit northeast based on the 12z GFS op run so far...by about 2-300 miles in about 8 days!
Gusty
28 July 2017 16:51:31

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

To be fair that Low is expected to shift a bit northeast based on the 12z GFS op run so far...by about 2-300 miles in about 8 days!


To be fair Doc despite the awful looking charts for the next 7-10 days you and Richard could do OK (ish). You will lose your dreaded SE'ly breeze in favour of a warmer offshore westerly. You may also miss most of the showers on offer between frontal rain bands. 


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28 July 2017 16:51:37

Unfortunately people are acting like toddlers again. I'm having to delete accounts. Once you're gone, you're gone these days. No new registrations. No suspensions. It's goodnight vienna. Grow up or clear off.


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doctormog
28 July 2017 17:06:13

Originally Posted by: Gusty 


 


To be fair Doc despite the awful looking charts for the next 7-10 days you and Richard could do OK (ish). You will lose your dreaded SE'ly breeze in favour of a warmer offshore westerly. You may also miss most of the showers on offer between frontal rain bands. 



Yes, you're spot on Steve and your summary seems like a very likely outcome. Overall it seems a bit of a Groundhog Day scenario with occasional rain bands and sunshine and showers. Nothing too unusual or exciting. Good for some decent convection and with some pleasant sunshine and yes for once not dismal here .


Charmhills
28 July 2017 18:33:52


 



Met/o 12z a bit ridgy for a time before low pressure moves in.


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Maunder Minimum
28 July 2017 18:57:10

Originally Posted by: DEW 


 


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Trouble with using a tablet, is that it guesses words for you and if you are not on the ball, you don't always notice - I meant "magnet" of course.


anyhow, looks as though things settle down for a time about a week from now. My holidays start on 12th August, so I am hoping for a dry and warm mid-month period.


Too far away to predict at the moment thought.


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Gusty
29 July 2017 07:06:34

Poor summer output.


The spikes in the 850Hpa temps won't necessarily translate to decent temperatures at the surface because the jet stream is now too far south and such warmth is now associated with warm sectors in active frontal bands.


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Gavin D
29 July 2017 07:54:00

High-pressure building from the south west next weekend

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/40759766

Bar hints from GFS after next weekend we don't have anything from ECM and UKMO showing a pressure rise yet

Joe Bloggs
29 July 2017 08:00:13

Yes very poor this morning. 


ECM has low after low moving in with very little let up - affecting the far south too.


GFS has a glimmer of hope into FI. 



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Gavin D
29 July 2017 08:23:36

ECM and UKMO at t168


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Charmhills
29 July 2017 09:17:57



GFS ems for Birmingham and Loughborough.


Bland with showers or some longer spells of rain at times.


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29 July 2017 13:12:03

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


Yes very poor this morning. 


ECM has low after low moving in with very little let up - affecting the far south too.


GFS has a glimmer of hope into FI. 



I am on holiday w/c 7th August and the laterst GFS run looks pretty good for that time. Unfortunately this is straw clutching and easily far enough away that this glimmer of hope could be snatched away in the next run, never to return. Still, an improvment of sorts has been shown for this period for a few days now so at least there is some consistency if nothing else.


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Solar Cycles
29 July 2017 14:45:36
It's looking more and more likely that this summer is going to end up being a front ended one for any warm/dry weather, hardly surprising really as the law of averages dictate that the overall dry period of weather stretching back to the winter of 2016/17 had to come to an end at some point. As for model output is it me or does anyone else think we seem to have taken a backward step with regards to forecasting beyond the 5-7 day range over the last year or two?
PFCSCOTTY
29 July 2017 20:17:35
TBH summer was over as soon as the shambolic BBC forecasts started predicting a good july....woeful ...5 weeks to Autumn....let's see if they are better at predicting how that will go!
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