The Beast from the East
14 December 2022 09:49:09
ICON latest has a slight SE shift
https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/icone_cartes.php?&ech=120&mode=0 
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Brian Gaze
14 December 2022 09:51:54
Quite a few average to cold stamps even for southern Britain on this morning's MOGREPS-G update.

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Brian Gaze
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sunny coast
14 December 2022 10:15:30
Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Even the "good" winters usually only deliver 2 or 3 decent snow events to the majority of the UK population. It is a myth to think otherwise IMO. One of the things about 1978/79 was that it brought widespread snow (as opposed to localised or regional events) for the first time in a number of years. In my locality this spell will rank highly if cold and snow are your things because it has: i) lasted quite a long time, ii) delivered ice days iii) left a good covering of snow for several days. 



A good spell too for here near Sussex coast 
A cold first half of Dec  very cold in the past week with hard frosts  ice days and a snow Cover from last Sunday eve still here with minimal melt and likely to last until Saturday . A big change from the usual Dec crud . 
Zubzero
14 December 2022 10:18:40
Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Even the "good" winters usually only deliver 2 or 3 decent snow events to the majority of the UK population. It is a myth to think otherwise IMO. One of the things about 1978/79 was that it brought widespread snow (as opposed to localised or regional events) for the first time in a number of years. In my locality this spell will rank highly if cold and snow are your things because it has: i) lasted quite a long time, ii) delivered ice days iii) left a good covering of snow for several days. 



For my area you could not expect more then what's happened 4 ice days in a row( so far) min of -9C 8-10cm of snow. For this location it's up there with the best of cold spells. I must admit it's turned out much better then I thought it would. 
Brian Gaze
14 December 2022 10:24:32
Originally Posted by: Zubzero 

For my area you could not expect more then what's happened 4 ice days in a row( so far) min of -9C 8-10cm of snow. For this location it's up there with the best of cold spells. I must admit it's turned out much better then I thought it would. 



It has been an "excellent" spell of cold weather here too.  A reasonable amount of snow (6cm to 7cm measured in my garden), several ice days, freezing fog, and contrasting light levels.  For example, yesterday was overcast but this morning we've had bright sunshine. It ranks ahead of the cold snaps in Jan and Feb 2021, as well as December 2017.  Although I'd put it behind the easterly in February / March 2018.
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Heavy Weather 2013
14 December 2022 10:28:33
Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

It has been an "excellent" spell of cold weather here too.  A reasonable amount of snow (6cm to 7cm measured in my garden), several ice days, freezing fog, and contrasting light levels.  For example, yesterday was overcast but this morning we've had bright sunshine. It ranks ahead of the cold snaps in Jan and Feb 2021, as well as December 2017.  Although I'd put it behind the easterly in February / March 2018.



Currently I am ranking this for my location as the best since 2010. The BFTE didn’t quite deliver in terms of snowfall. 18 December 2010 was excellent. 

In terms of snow events. 02 February 2009 ranks at the best and that came from a 3 day coke snap.
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warrenb
14 December 2022 10:36:55
Well looking at the ENS for all models it is pretty clear anything can happen after the 22nd.
Chichesterweatherfan2
14 December 2022 10:37:21
As a fellow Cichestrian, I am with Dew on this...the lack of any snow in this part of the world has been disappointing..but totally unsurprising...where this cold spell has delivered has been some lovely sunny days and frosty mornings.  Proper winter weather....I have learnt that in this part of the world...forecast snow in the south east does not equate to snow in Chichester... the last decent and proper falls of snow here were in 2009/10....
Hippydave
14 December 2022 10:38:13
Back to the GFS 6z 😜 and something of a mixed bag to T240 - chilly for Scotland but the Azores HP keeps throwing ridges up which get pushed in to the near continent meaning the cold struggles to get very far South. 

 
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Saint Snow
14 December 2022 10:41:23
Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

02 February 2009 ranks at the best and that came from a 3 day coke snap.



I've often thought the models were on crack.

 

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Saint Snow
14 December 2022 10:42:25
Originally Posted by: warrenb 

Well looking at the ENS for all models it is pretty clear anything can happen after the 22nd.




Contender for post of the day 👍 😂

 

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Russwirral
14 December 2022 10:45:37
Models this morning look alot more stormy than snowy.

Indeed the 06 GFS now looks extremely wet, windy and Zonal rather than the much hoped back to colder (im hoing this will change)

Scotland remains close enough to cold air to maintain a very healthy snow bank balance.  Scottish ski resorts off to a flying start.
The Beast from the East
14 December 2022 10:50:55
op is crap but GEFS still offer some straws
https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_cartes.php?code=5&ech=144&mode=0&carte=0&ext=0 
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Rob K
14 December 2022 11:00:09
Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 



Yes, the midlands and Central Southern England have been dry, but this has still be a notable cold spell with temperatures sub zero by day in the first 14 days of December..


Quite a bit of central Southern England has had snow. Admittedly it was only a dusting here but the low temperatures mean that even two days later it is still there crunching underfoot and looking pretty with the Christmas decorations.

Anyway the model roller coaster continues, GFS is not exactly mild and is a very snowy run for Scotland.
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Downpour
14 December 2022 11:07:26
Best cold spell ever for me. Even better than Dec 2010.

Truly wonderful. 

But now I will be accused of an "IMBY post" 😂
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Essan
14 December 2022 11:09:44
Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

It has been an "excellent" spell of cold weather here too.  A reasonable amount of snow (6cm to 7cm measured in my garden), several ice days, freezing fog, and contrasting light levels.  For example, yesterday was overcast but this morning we've had bright sunshine. It ranks ahead of the cold snaps in Jan and Feb 2021, as well as December 2017.  Although I'd put it behind the easterly in February / March 2018.



I agree.  The lack of sunshine here since Sunday's snow has been disappointing, but still without doubt the best snow/cold spell here since 2018 - and in fact the snow looks like lasting longer than it did back then, making it probably the longest period of snow cover since December 2010!
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Darren S
14 December 2022 11:16:27
Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Quite a bit of central Southern England has had snow. Admittedly it was only a dusting here but the low temperatures mean that even two days later it is still there crunching underfoot and looking pretty with the Christmas decorations.



I drove from home to Birmingham this morning (near the NEC & Airport). No snow here whatsoever; continuous snow cover en route from home to about Stratford-upon-Avon, but no more than 1cm anywhere. (M4/A404/M40). Barely a dusting around Bicester but more around Gaydon in South Warks.

Our <0.5cm (more than a dusting) is still mostly intact at home. Had we had more snow like many places further east, this spell would rank as an absolute classic. It's certainly notable, but lack of snow ranks it in the "if only" stakes.
Darren
Crowthorne, Berks (87m asl)
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2022/23 7 cm; 2021/22 1 cm; 2020/21 13 cm; 2019/20 0 cm; 2018/19 14 cm; 2017/18 23 cm; 2016/17 0 cm; 2015/16 0.5 cm; 2014/15 3.5 cm; 2013/14 0 cm; 2012/13 22 cm; 2011/12 7 cm; 2010/11 6 cm; 2009/10 51 cm
Ally Pally Snowman
14 December 2022 11:23:26
Originally Posted by: Downpour 

Best cold spell ever for me. Even better than Dec 2010.

Truly wonderful. 

But now I will be accused of an "IMBY post" 😂



It's definitely up there with the very best for here as well. The only thing its lacked is a snow on snow event.

 
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moomin75
14 December 2022 11:25:10
GFS 6Z is another horror show for most (away from the North of Scotland), with raging zonality ramping up.Some stormy weather ahead and definitely not cold for the vast majority.This, if it verifies, really is a long way back to cold, and would probably spell trouble of a wet and windy variety for several weeks at least.   
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warrenb
14 December 2022 11:31:24
I can often tell what the models look like just by who is commenting on them. No need to look 😂
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