Why is there a link to Meta and Ethiopia in the MetO bit?

Sorry, careless use of the clipboard, now corrected. The Ethiopian link had been posted into UIA.

At least it shows someone reads my posts, thanks for that😊

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sad to hear Kieron. It does look like those who called this spell as dry for most will be proved right. The very heavy fall we have had here is extremely localised. Shame we couldn’t have seen something more widespread. 

Even the "good" winters usually only deliver 2 or 3 decent snow events to the majority of the UK population. It is a myth to think otherwise IMO. One of the things about 1978/79 was that it brought widespread snow (as opposed to localised or regional events) for the first time in a number of years. In my locality this spell will rank highly if cold and snow are your things because it has: i) lasted quite a long time, ii) delivered ice days iii) left a good covering of snow for several days. 

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sad to hear Kieron. It does look like those who called this spell as dry for most will be proved right. The very heavy fall we have had here is extremely localised. Shame we couldn’t have seen something more widespread. 

And that is not supposed to be wind up!

The SE,SW,NE and NW have had snow as far as I am aware. Scotland has loads, how is that localised?

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sad to hear Kieron. It does look like those who called this spell as dry for most will be proved right. The very heavy fall we have had here is extremely localised. Shame we couldn’t have seen something more widespread. 

It wasn’t extremely localised. Literally millions of people have seen snow in the last few days.

The SW, SE, NW and many parts of Scotland have seen snow. The SE in particular was hit hard, Essex, Kent, London (Central, SE, East, NE and N) and parts around Bedford and MK saw between 3-16cm of snow. 

Yes, the midlands and Central Southern England have been dry, but this has still be a notable cold spell with temperatures sub zero by day in the first 14 days of December.

As for next week and beyond, I think let’s wait and see, there still remains interest in the ensembles - things are in a state of flux atm - I’ll hazard a guess that the extreme plunge of cold in North America wow probably causing the jet major issues - the broader pattern may we well come into play again for us soon. Lest we forget how bad last year was.

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The BBC Weather video had the caption the other day "Most of the UK sees snowfall " (or similar).  Whilst I am not sure that it is most, it is a fair proportion, the snow in the SE did get west and north of London, so that is a fair % of the population in itself, then add the SW, Wales NW, NE and Scotland.   Personally it has been disapointing here and other parts of Central N England, and Midlands and parts of Central Southern England, but are we in the majority?   
 

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Even the "good" winters usually only deliver 2 or 3 decent snow events to the majority of the UK population. It is a myth to think otherwise IMO. One of the things about 1978/79 was that it brought widespread snow (as opposed to localised or regional events) for the first time in a number of years. In my locality this spell will rank highly if cold and snow are your things because it has: i) lasted quite a long time, ii) delivered ice days iii) left a good covering of snow for several days. 

oh absolutely, that is certainly true of my area. Best snowfall I can remember. Six inches here and up to eight in the higher parts of Epping Forest, which was the sweet spot where the system pivoted. The snow has lain for days and has barely thawed at all. Quite extraordinary stuff.

Yet the much derided claim on TWO, that this spell would fail to deliver for the majority of the UK population was proved right. Many members will be looking to the next chase.

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It wasn’t extremely localised. Literally millions of people have seen snow in the last few days.

The SW, SE, NW and many parts of Scotland have seen snow. The SE in particular was hit hard, Essex, Kent, London (Central, SE, East, NE and N) and parts around Bedford and MK saw between 3-16cm of snow. 

Yes, the midlands and Central Southern England have been dry, but this has still be a notable cold spell with temperatures sub zero by day in the first 14 days of December.

As for next week and beyond, I think let’s wait and see, there still remains interest in the ensembles - things are in a state of flux atm - I’ll hazard a guess that the extreme plunge of cold in North America wow probably causing the jet major issues - the broader pattern may we well come into play again for us soon. Lest we forget how bad last year was.

it has been a good spell for about 25m people I reckon, 10m of which are here in the London area. But that is not a majority of the UK population. 

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Yet the much derided claim on TWO, that this spell would fail to deliver for the majority of the UK population was proved right. Many members will be looking to the next chase.

This comment is beyond disingenuous and effectively trolling IMHO. I give up.
 

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This is an IMBY post - but I'm with Downpour on this one. The "recent" heavy fall was localised  to a narrow band initially on the E Sussex/Kent border before moving N through London. Dry here in W Sussex and Retron was reporting rain from Sheppey - and definitely a shame this event wasn't more widespread. Note he did use the word "recent".

Of course N Scotland and especially Shetland have had bucketloads, but (correct me if I'm wrong) virtually nothing in the Central Belt up there.

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Even without any snow (although you can see it across the Channel on the Devon hills!) it's been an impressive cold spell. Not sure of the exact date it started but we were in Bath on 4 & 5 December and it was already cold and 10 days later it's currently -2. This is the longest cold spell since 2010. The last few days have been grey, but there has been some stunning crisp and clear weather with hoar frost coating everything. Also, grey weather where it seems to barely get light, suits the festive period. I just hope it's not too wet over Christmas and also there is enough scatter in the ENS to offer a possibility of colder weather quickly returning.

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The Lothians and Eastern Borders have had 7 days with varying snow cover DEW.

We had a fall last Thursday and Saturday

Angus & Fife had some too

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This is an IMBY post - but I'm with Downpour on this one. The "recent" heavy fall was localised  to a narrow band initially on the E Sussex/Kent border before moving N through London. Dry here in W Sussex and Retron was reporting rain from Sheppey - and definitely a shame this event wasn't more widespread. Note he did use the word "recent".

Of course N Scotland and especially Shetland have had bucketloads, but (correct me if I'm wrong) virtually nothing in the Central Belt up there.

Correct, not much if any snow in Central belt of scotland.  Dissapointing spell of weather?? No, not at all.  The cold spell isn't over and we've still a few forecast falls of snow to come before it's over.
most big snowfalls in the uk occur during breakdowns at the end of a cold spell. Anyone expecting anything widespread and significant during a cold spell is being unrealistic imo.

Ps. Fwiw dew you've not been harping on about like a broken record about it being dry or dissapointing though.

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The Lothians and Eastern Borders have had 7 days with varying snow cover DEW.

We had a fall last Thursday and Saturday

Angus & Fife had some too

I think that was my impression - snow close to the coast but not much if any between Edinburgh and Glasgow

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Still a big scatter on this morning's ECM. 

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Still a big scatter on this morning's ECM. 

Good chart. There is def some clusters in there. 

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I was calling this dry, and TBF in the most part it has. Some places calling out maybe a dusting - doesnt really measure much in terms of moisture on the ground in real terms. However theres been way more snow than i had anticipated in very localised areas around the coast... something the models were hinting at - but not painting the picture fully.  Wales, some parts of NW England.  SE and Southern England and NE England, all seeing a covering in places, in some cases significantly so.  Scotland just continues to get dumpings 🤣

Central areas have missed out somewhat.  Which is what the charts were aluding to. EVERYwhere seems to have got cold temps though, in my case  very cold (-7*c last night).  So on this basis - this is still a siginificant event.

Looking forward, Im hoping for some upgrades today (the charts this morning are a bit of a downgrade) becuase if we do get more wintry weather next week, this could be a December long remembered, not just because of the Xmas element - but becuase of Longevity and depth of cold.  Potentially a one in 3 yrs event or maybe 1 in 10 yr event.

For those who are perhaps a bit diflated by the current spell, just remember, on wintry events of the past didnt always deliver to others either.  Sometimes you dont win.  TBFTE was extremely frustrating for us in the North west.  We didnt get anything depsite putting up with the cloud and low temps.  Same for some of the spells around 2010 and 2009.  But you have to expect this for the UK.  Its rare everyone wins.

Last weekend everyone got snow near where I live.  I got 20 mins of snow and several hours of heavy sleet.  Despite being further in land and colder.

However the following dy we had a magical spell of Freezing fog, which is much rarer than snow in these parts.

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And that is not supposed to be wind up!

The SE,SW,NE and NW have had snow as far as I am aware. Scotland has loads, how is that localised?

if you wear big enough gloves you can give yourself a massive pat on the back

Correct, not much if any snow in Central belt of scotland.  Dissapointing spell of weather?? No, not at all.  The cold spell isn't over and we've still a few forecast falls of snow to come before it's over.
most big snowfalls in the uk occur during breakdowns at the end of a cold spell. Anyone expecting anything widespread and significant during a cold spell is being unrealistic imo.

Ps. Fwiw dew you've not been harping on about like a broken record about it being dry or dissapointing though.

Most of the recent snowfalls were due to convective clouds from the still relatively warm seas (you could still swim in it if you really wanted to). Most of these soon die out as they move inland and the mountains help protect the leeward areas from the still, hence the central belt of Scotland.

HST, there were isolated areas of inland snow (e.g, Sheffield and the Home Counties) due to cyclonic convergence clouds, but most of the recent precipitation were close to the coasts and the land remained dry.

Of course, there's also little frontal snow in the far south yesterday (13 Dec). Heavy snow far inland tends to occur when fronts make inroads from the Atlantic.

No snow here but family up in Strath Oykel are pretty much snowed in with severe frosts and regular white out snow showers .

Still a big scatter on this morning's ECM. 

Better than last nights, UKMO also drags it back a bit. We need the troughing to exit east ASAP on Sunday to prevent the Azores high pushing in

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