Downpour
06 May 2021 21:13:57

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


 


That's how I remember it. The amazing July turned rubbish as soon as the kids broke up from school. August was very sketchy.


That's happened a number of times in recent years. 



Although certainly not last year and in fact not frequently despite it being a oft-repeated myth on here!


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Saint Snow
06 May 2021 21:26:54

Originally Posted by: Downpour 


 


Although certainly not last year and in fact not frequently despite it being a oft-repeated myth on here!



 


I think the effect is more noticeable in the west and north of the Midlands. 2006, 2013, 2014 were the most notable, with August tanking after very good June/July spells.


Even in 2018, August was the worst month out of that May/June/July/August period (May, June and early July were the best, with an easterly feed dominating)



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Saint Snow
06 May 2021 21:28:59

This is a superb chart, and typical of much of May/June/early July 2018:


 




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Ally Pally Snowman
06 May 2021 21:41:07

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


This is a superb chart, and typical of much of May/June/early July 2018:


 




GFS has be churning out charts similar to this recently.  Could easily happen this year.


 


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David M Porter
06 May 2021 21:52:50

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


 


I think the effect is more noticeable in the west and north of the Midlands. 2006, 2013, 2014 were the most notable, with August tanking after very good June/July spells.


Even in 2018, August was the worst month out of that May/June/July/August period (May, June and early July were the best, with an easterly feed dominating)



I have seen people comment on this forum on a number of occasions that there hasn't been a notably good August in the UK since 2003. I would certainly subsribe to that view on the basis of the weather I have experienced in many Augusts in my part of the world.


What I recall about August 2003 here was that the hottest weather seemed to peter out after mid-month, although it was still settled for most of the time. While the first half had some high nightime minima here, the nights in the second half of the month were generally quite a bit cooler.


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idj20
06 May 2021 22:05:49

Originally Posted by: idj20 




It would be hilarious if the Kent Rain Deflector come into play on that occasion.   Being a widespread dynamic frontal rainfall set up, I do think it is pretty much baked in with at least 15 mm minimum for my location on Saturday. It's the showery stuff that I tend to keep missing out on, such as today. 




As I was saying about the Kent Rain Deflector. The latest 18z ICON run is showing just 5 mm for my location up to the end of Tuesday.     


Looking properly wet over South Wales and Dartmoor, though.


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Ally Pally Snowman
06 May 2021 22:08:54

Originally Posted by: idj20 




As I was saying about the Kent Rain Deflector. The latest 18z ICON run is showing just 5 mm for my location up to the end of Tuesday.     


Looking properly wet over South Wales and Dartmoor, though.



It always amazes me how much wetter the West can be compared to the East on our tiny little island. 


 


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Downpour
07 May 2021 06:17:34

Originally Posted by: idj20 




As I was saying about the Kent Rain Deflector. The latest 18z ICON run is showing just 5 mm for my location up to the end of Tuesday.     


Looking properly wet over South Wales and Dartmoor, though.



 


indeed the downgrades are starting in earnest this morning. WeatherPro now only gives 11mm for my location (was 16mm as recently as yesterday), with the rain clearing by lunchtime. I wonder how much further that will fall? 


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Jiries
07 May 2021 07:16:57

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


This is a superb chart, and typical of much of May/June/early July 2018:


 




We are extremely well over due for some warm hot weather that we haven't seen one this Spring and more like Icelandic climate here where temps stuck at single digits to low teens rain or shine.  Models need to realized we are now heading to summer month soon so must start giving us warm hot charts eventually and well much sooner than later.

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07 May 2021 07:18:05

16-dayer showing the temps gradually improving over W Europe but even into week 2 still below average for the time of year. Wet for week 1 but dry in week 2, a change from previous forecasts


GFS - LP moving in Sun 9th 970 mb SW Ireland, staying around and filling to Thu 13th. Although it drags up some warmth for the SE at first, it ends up as a cool pool later on. That sinks a little further south but is unusually persistent, essentially n place for 10 days, encouraging E-lies over the south but something milder from the Atlantic over Scotland.


GEFS - burst of warmth with rain in SE tomorrow, then a long period with temps close to or a little below norm, and rain in most runs from time to time (no drier period as above). The control run for Scotland shows a couple of periods with cold outliers 15th and 20th.


ECM - rather like GFS but the cold pool links up with LP on the Atlantic preventing warmth reaching Scotland


 


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idj20
07 May 2021 08:34:05

Originally Posted by: Jiries 


 


We are extremely well over due for some warm hot weather that we haven't seen one this Spring and more like Icelandic climate here where temps stuck at single digits to low teens rain or shine.  Models need to realized we are now heading to summer month soon so must start giving us warm hot charts eventually and well much sooner than later.




I have managed 21 c back in the last day of March, though. 


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ozone_aurora
07 May 2021 09:54:08

Originally Posted by: idj20 




I have managed 21 c back in the last day of March, though. 



Me too! 

Gooner
07 May 2021 09:55:53

Originally Posted by: idj20 




I have managed 21 c back in the last day of March, though. 



I think we got 23c , a couple of lovely days and ended on the Thursday 


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Downpour
07 May 2021 10:11:22

Originally Posted by: Downpour 


 


 


indeed the downgrades are starting in earnest this morning. WeatherPro now only gives 11mm for my location (was 16mm as recently as yesterday), with the rain clearing by lunchtime. I wonder how much further that will fall? 



 


Now 6.9mm. The epic “copious rainfall” spell continues...


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moomin75
07 May 2021 10:29:49

Originally Posted by: Downpour 


 


 


Now 6.9mm. The epic “copious rainfall” spell continues...


You do realise that Chingford doesn't equate to the whole of the UK? You may not have had much on your house, but the last time I checked, the UK was slightly larger than Chingford.


Here it has been very wet this week, and looks exceptionally so tomorrow, along with large swathes of the UK. Flooding a very real possibility too with upwards of 100mm being forecast in some parts of Wales.


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GezM
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07 May 2021 10:37:12

Originally Posted by: DEW 


16-dayer showing the temps gradually improving over W Europe but even into week 2 still below average for the time of year. Wet for week 1 but dry in week 2, a change from previous forecasts



Yes, the 8 to 16 day range has downgraded the warm up, even in eastern Europe. Looks like slow, erratic, uncertain progress through late spring with no hints of summer yet.  


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Sevendust
07 May 2021 10:38:59

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


You do realise that Chingford doesn't equate to the whole of the UK? You may not have had much on your house, but the last time I checked, the UK was slightly larger than Chingford.


Here it has been very wet this week, and looks exceptionally so tomorrow, along with large swathes of the UK. Flooding a very real possibility too with upwards of 100mm being forecast in some parts of Wales.



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moomin75
07 May 2021 11:45:39

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


 


Aah but most people live in the South East  (I'll get my coat) 


Aha. Good point! 🤣🤣


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Downpour
07 May 2021 12:10:44

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


You do realise that Chingford doesn't equate to the whole of the UK? You may not have had much on your house, but the last time I checked, the UK was slightly larger than Chingford.


Here it has been very wet this week, and looks exceptionally so tomorrow, along with large swathes of the UK. Flooding a very real possibility too with upwards of 100mm being forecast in some parts of Wales.



 


Indeed it looks very wet over the hills of Wales where very few people live. In the populous SE, which is crying out for meaningful rain, not so much. My garden is a dustbowl again. I am hoping for 15mm as promised. Yet it now looks nearer a third of that. Downgraded yet again – when will we ever learn? 


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Downpour
07 May 2021 12:13:42

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


 


Aah but most people live in the South East  (I'll get my coat) 



 


It's true though – far more people live in SE of England than in Wales and Scotland combined. And for those millions of people, tomorrow's much-vaunted epic rainfest now looks like yet another downgrade. The rain is massively needed – but it's not looking like delivering at this juncture. 


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