Caz
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10 October 2018 15:00:27

Originally Posted by: Russwirral 


Interesting on the 6z today/


 


I realise its one run, but on this run we see HP cells coming through from US and loading up a midatlantic block with the NAO then going seemingly strongly negative, with the hint of the pressure then slowly migrating further north at the end of the run. 


This is not an isolated  trend, recent runs have hinted at something like this developing.


 I realise this doesnt get us to a wintry conclusion, but its miles ahead of what we usually see.


What an odd autumn we are having compared to recent years, Frost and potential wintry synoptics before autumn is half way through, usually its December before we see things like this.


It’s been an odd year altogether and it feels like there’s been a shift in weather patterns. We had cold and snow in March, then a quick transition to a warm and dry April, followed by a hot, dry Summer.  Nothing would surprise me for the rest of this year and next. 


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Windy Willow
11 October 2018 22:59:30

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/chart.aspx?chart=/charts/gefs/gefsens850London0.png?cb=522


 


A 1 on the snow row for London around the 24th October!!!!


Probably gone on the next one 


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Rob K
12 October 2018 06:44:11

Originally Posted by: Windy Willow 


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/chart.aspx?chart=/charts/gefs/gefsens850London0.png?cb=522


 


A 1 on the snow row for London around the 24th October!!!!


Probably gone on the next one 



No snow row on the 00Z but it ends with a massive northerly plunge and the whole country below -5C at 850mb. 


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doctormog
12 October 2018 06:52:27
Up to 7 on the Inverness ensemble this morning. Perhaps worth keeping an eye on?
Russwirral
12 October 2018 08:16:55

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

Up to 7 on the Inverness ensemble this morning. Perhaps worth keeping an eye on?


 


I think so, that Mid atlantic Ridge is starting to become a bit of a theme for the latter par of the run.  this mornings 00z run seems even stronger, with north west europe slowly entering the freezer.


 



 


sunny coast
12 October 2018 15:02:50

Meantime in the near term the weekends rain looks worrying for some particularly the Welsh valleys upward of 150mm for some. could be very noteworthy

doctormog
13 October 2018 09:07:29

Originally Posted by: sunny coast 


Meantime in the near term the weekends rain looks worrying for some particularly the Welsh valleys upward of 150mm for some. could be very noteworthy



Yes, you’re right and this is still the biggest issue currently, especially for parts of Wales.


 


On a different topic, and deep in FI, I see that the snow row number on the “Inverness” GEFS data is up to 14 towards the end of the set.


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gefs/gefsens850inverness0.png?cb 


Sevendust
13 October 2018 12:45:03

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 


Yes, you’re right and this is still the biggest issue currently, especially for parts of Wales.


 


On a different topic, and deep in FI, I see that the snow row number on the “Inverness” GEFS data is up to 14 towards the end of the set.


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gefs/gefsens850inverness0.png?cb 



Its started 


Meanwhile there is some consistency out to a week or so. Beyond that its normal chaos 


 

doctormog
13 October 2018 12:47:38

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


 


Its started 


Meanwhile there is some consistency out to a week or so. Beyond that its normal chaos 


 



It started weeks ago (in the model output). 


I‘m sure you’ll get a "1” on the snow row by sometime in mid-January so don’t panic yet. 


Edit: On the subject of consistency the value has been updated to 13 for Inverness on the latest run.


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14 October 2018 06:35:51

Mild air still being pumped up from the SW for the next week according to GFS and ECM, with the occasional front coming through - Fax chart has this trailing around the far SE s we may get a bit more rain down here than we're used to. 


GFS has big cold plunge for Sun 28th but don't get too excited.


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Hippydave
14 October 2018 08:50:44

Not really looked all that much lately but from where I looked a few days back GFS seems to have trended more settled and warmer (down here) in the mid to long term, compared to what it had been showing.


Rubbish for my CET guess but good news in terms of keeping the heating off, assuming GFS has things right


Edit: should have said, looking at the Ens, rather than the op!


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marco 79
15 October 2018 08:18:32
In the extended, GFS op showing mid Atlantic ridge retrogressing towards Greenland allowing a Northerly blast towards last week of the month. The Op is showing one of the coldest solutions of the pack....but it's keen to hold into this idea as it's modelled a Northerly incursion for some time now...
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SEMerc
15 October 2018 14:52:01

Always good to see the -8s returning - even it is only briefly on this run.


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Windy Willow
16 October 2018 06:15:00

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/chart.aspx?chart=/charts/gefs/gefsens850London0.png?cb=322


 


A 2 on the snow row at the end of the month now!


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DEW
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16 October 2018 06:40:47

Next week's cold plunge being shifted a little further east by GFS and to a lesser extent by ECM ... then a little more east ... sounds familiar. Anyway, it's too early to enjoy really cold weather here.


But it's interesting to see the first extensive patch of sub-zero means across Scandinavia and Russia


http://www.wxmaps.org/pix/temp4 


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marco 79
16 October 2018 08:10:18
One thing of note is the lack of rainfall spikes UK wide right out to the start of Nov...
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ballamar
16 October 2018 21:18:58
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/ECMOPEU12_240_1.png 

Nice an chilly looking set up for next weekend
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16 October 2018 22:54:05

Originally Posted by: marco 79 

One thing of note is the lack of rainfall spikes UK wide right out to the start of Nov...


Indeed - high pressure firmly in control for the foreseeable - at least until the next run.



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Rob K
17 October 2018 09:29:36
A whole week and we haven't even filled one page of the MO thread. Not much action around. An early easterly at the end of the 00Z run cooling things down across Europe.
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Saint Snow
17 October 2018 10:16:59

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

A whole week and we haven't even filled one page of the MO thread. Not much action around. An early easterly at the end of the 00Z run cooling things down across Europe.


 


A fantastic spell of autumn weather in prospect, though. Just about perfect for most of the UK, apart from daytime temps being a couple of degrees too high, perhaps.


A cool, dry and hopefully misty Halloween would be an absolute treat.



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