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moomin75
06 February 2014 18:23:18

http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/2014/02/06/basis12/ukuk/rart/14021106_2_0612.gif

JFF Could leave a covering in many places

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Doubt it Marcus. Snow doesn't tend to settle on flood water that is several feet deep.


Witney, Oxfordshire

100m ASL

Nordic Snowman
06 February 2014 18:45:13

Dear me some of those gfs members are really bad news

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_cartes.php?code=17&ech=120&mode=0&carte=1

 

 

 

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/runs/2014020612/UN120-21.GIF?06-18 

Originally Posted by: Polar Low 

Indeed. Support for a rinse and repeat is growing for Tuesday.


Bjorli, Norway

Website 

David M Porter
06 February 2014 18:56:40

http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/2014/02/06/basis12/ukuk/rart/14021106_2_0612.gif

JFF Could leave a covering in many places

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

Doubt it Marcus. Snow doesn't tend to settle on flood water that is several feet deep.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

I imagine he meant those places that have been fortunate enough to have escaped the flooding, thus far anyway.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"A body of men holding themselves accountable to nobody ought not to be trusted by anybody." – Thomas Paine

Gooner
06 February 2014 19:41:54

http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/2014/02/06/basis12/ukuk/rart/14021106_2_0612.gif

JFF Could leave a covering in many places

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

Doubt it Marcus. Snow doesn't tend to settle on flood water that is several feet deep.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Don't care about Minster and Witney mate


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus

Banbury

North Oxfordshire

378 feet A S L



Gooner
06 February 2014 19:44:57

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014020612/ECH1-120.GIF?06-0

Tuesday LP

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2014020612/ECH1-192.GIF?06-0

Another a few days later

 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus

Banbury

North Oxfordshire

378 feet A S L



moomin75
06 February 2014 20:11:01

http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/2014/02/06/basis12/ukuk/rart/14021106_2_0612.gif

JFF Could leave a covering in many places

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Doubt it Marcus. Snow doesn't tend to settle on flood water that is several feet deep.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

Don't care about Minster and Witney mate

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

I'm in Leicester at the moment and it's pretty bloody wet up here too!


Witney, Oxfordshire

100m ASL

GIBBY
06 February 2014 20:33:33

Good evening everyone. Here is the report on the 12 noon outputs from the NWP for today Thursday February 6th 2014 and lifted from my website at http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/Model-Analysis(2859336).htm

All models show a Low pressure area tracking NE across Southern England with outbreaks of rain, heavy in places continuing through the night. By morning the Low is shown to move out into the North Sea with a fine interlude developing tomorrow as we lie between pressure systems. Tomorrow evening though shows a new powerful depression sweeping into Ireland from the SW bringing an active set of fronts with it with more gales, heavy rain and increased risk of flooding once more. Following the rain will be severe gales and heavy showers in Westerly winds with coastal defences in the West and South put to the test once more. This windy and showery theme continues through the weekend as the Low responsible drifts to the North of Scotland by Monday.

GFS then show the start of next week bright and showery to begin with before the rest of the week sees further troughs and Low pressure systems passing through, each delivering more wind and rain across the UK in average temperatures though perhaps rather chilly in the North at times with hill snow.  Later in the lower resolution part of the run there remains little concrete evidence for improvements with further Low pressure areas passing over the UK with rain and showers separated by short drier interludes. Temperatures never look like straying far from average with little in the way of frost and fog.

The GFS Ensembles remain very stable and keeping temperatures close to average with all members keeping very unsettled conditions with rain at times going throughout the period for all areas.

UKMO tonight looks disturbing, especially early in the week again as yet another vicious storm system whips across Ireland on Tuesday with a strong and showery Westerly flow on Wednesday with further embryonic systems shown out to the SW for later in the week.

GEM remains unrelenting in it's projection of further deep depressions and attendant rain and strong winds crossing the UK in the final days of it's 10 day run with temperatures close to average but cold enough at times for some snow on Northern hills.

NAVGEM is awful tonight showing the most powerful storm yet crossing Wales and the Midlands midweek with storm force winds and heavy rain the likely events coupled with storm surges and the like as it tracks ENE before leaving the UK in strong Westerly winds and showers later in the week.

ECM tonight takes the early week storm a little further North than it's counterpart models but nonetheless the pattern of heavy rain and strong winds remain the same with the model showing another storm further South at the end of the week before the run ends on a cold and unstable Westerly flow but less strong with showers, wintry on hills.

The ECM 9 and 10 Day Mean Charts show Low pressure still likeely to be in control of the UK weather in 10 Days time with the majority of members indicatig a preference for Low pressure to be close to northern Britain with a Jet flow to the South and pressure over the UK sub 1000mbs. Rain at times would inevitably occur in South or west winds and temperatures near average.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2161.gif
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2401.gif

The Jet Stream Forecast shows little change tonight with a strong flow West to East across the Atlantic and then across Spain or France. there is still some indication of a weakening of the flow through week 2.

In Summary there is little to cheer about in tonight's output with seemingly relentless supply of Low pressure systems crossing the Atlantic, each having the UK in their sights. As a result there will be copious amounts of rain and wind too at times causing further disruption from both flooding and wind damage through next week in particular. Signs of a quietening of conditions are still just about present within some longer term projections but if anything there seems little or even less support for this aside from a far end low resolution chart at Day 15 from GFS, a slackening pattern in the Day 10 chart (perhaps) from ECM and also hints of a slackening Jet flow in the GFS Ensembles.


Martin G

Kilmersdon Radstock Bath Somerset

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tallyho_83
06 February 2014 20:39:32
What has happened to the OP run???

http://www.weathercharts.org/wetterzentraleGFSforecast.htm 

Stuck on 00z?? Is the weather that bad that even the GFS models have given up!?


Home Location - Vixen Tor Close, Okehampton, Devon (221m ASL)

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Sean Moon

Magical Moon

www.magical-moon.com

Hungry Tiger
06 February 2014 20:42:37

Good evening everyone. Here is the report on the 12 noon outputs from the NWP for today Thursday February 6th 2014 and lifted from my website at http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/Model-Analysis(2859336).htm

All models show a Low pressure area tracking NE across Southern England with outbreaks of rain, heavy in places continuing through the night. By morning the Low is shown to move out into the North Sea with a fine interlude developing tomorrow as we lie between pressure systems. Tomorrow evening though shows a new powerful depression sweeping into Ireland from the SW bringing an active set of fronts with it with more gales, heavy rain and increased risk of flooding once more. Following the rain will be severe gales and heavy showers in Westerly winds with coastal defences in the West and South put to the test once more. This windy and showery theme continues through the weekend as the Low responsible drifts to the North of Scotland by Monday.

GFS then show the start of next week bright and showery to begin with before the rest of the week sees further troughs and Low pressure systems passing through, each delivering more wind and rain across the UK in average temperatures though perhaps rather chilly in the North at times with hill snow.  Later in the lower resolution part of the run there remains little concrete evidence for improvements with further Low pressure areas passing over the UK with rain and showers separated by short drier interludes. Temperatures never look like straying far from average with little in the way of frost and fog.

The GFS Ensembles remain very stable and keeping temperatures close to average with all members keeping very unsettled conditions with rain at times going throughout the period for all areas.

UKMO tonight looks disturbing, especially early in the week again as yet another vicious storm system whips across Ireland on Tuesday with a strong and showery Westerly flow on Wednesday with further embryonic systems shown out to the SW for later in the week.

GEM remains unrelenting in it's projection of further deep depressions and attendant rain and strong winds crossing the UK in the final days of it's 10 day run with temperatures close to average but cold enough at times for some snow on Northern hills.

NAVGEM is awful tonight showing the most powerful storm yet crossing Wales and the Midlands midweek with storm force winds and heavy rain the likely events coupled with storm surges and the like as it tracks ENE before leaving the UK in strong Westerly winds and showers later in the week.

ECM tonight takes the early week storm a little further North than it's counterpart models but nonetheless the pattern of heavy rain and strong winds remain the same with the model showing another storm further South at the end of the week before the run ends on a cold and unstable Westerly flow but less strong with showers, wintry on hills.

The ECM 9 and 10 Day Mean Charts show Low pressure still likeely to be in control of the UK weather in 10 Days time with the majority of members indicatig a preference for Low pressure to be close to northern Britain with a Jet flow to the South and pressure over the UK sub 1000mbs. Rain at times would inevitably occur in South or west winds and temperatures near average.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2161.gif
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2401.gif

The Jet Stream Forecast shows little change tonight with a strong flow West to East across the Atlantic and then across Spain or France. there is still some indication of a weakening of the flow through week 2.

In Summary there is little to cheer about in tonight's output with seemingly relentless supply of Low pressure systems crossing the Atlantic, each having the UK in their sights. As a result there will be copious amounts of rain and wind too at times causing further disruption from both flooding and wind damage through next week in particular. Signs of a quietening of conditions are still just about present within some longer term projections but if anything there seems little or even less support for this aside from a far end low resolution chart at Day 15 from GFS, a slackening pattern in the Day 10 chart (perhaps) from ECM and also hints of a slackening Jet flow in the GFS Ensembles.

Originally Posted by: GIBBY 

I am not surprised - but in some respects I am. This is getting quite serious.

 


Gavin S. FRmetS.

TWO Moderator.

Contact the TWO team - [email protected]

South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.



nsrobins
06 February 2014 20:59:36

What was, what is and what will be.

Hardly any changes in the short and medium term outlook and the rain and wind continue.

A new all time record E+W winter rainfall looks a dead cert to me.


Neil

Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)

Stormchaser, Member TORRO

tallyho_83
06 February 2014 22:25:11
http://www.weathercharts.org/wetterzentraleGFSforecast.htm  Stuck on 00z?? Is the weather that bad that even the GFS models have given up!?

?? anyone?


Home Location - Vixen Tor Close, Okehampton, Devon (221m ASL)

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Sean Moon

Magical Moon

www.magical-moon.com

doctormog
06 February 2014 22:32:35
http://www.weathercharts.org/wetterzentraleGFSforecast.htm  Stuck on 00z?? Is the weather that bad that even the GFS models have given up!?

?? anyone?

Nothing is wrong with the GFS data or output it just has not updated on that site. Why not use the actual wetterzentrale.de site?

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1861.gif 

And yes it is still unsettled.


Gooner
06 February 2014 22:40:07

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020618/gfsnh-0-264.png?18

Meteo is working fine , if you like unsettled


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus

Banbury

North Oxfordshire

378 feet A S L



Gooner
06 February 2014 22:44:31

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020618/gfsnh-1-372.png?18

FI still keen on a cooler feel


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus

Banbury

North Oxfordshire

378 feet A S L



Gaz
  • Gaz
  • Advanced Member
06 February 2014 22:53:53
To be fair, I'm looking forward to seeing subtle changes and some signs of something to bring us out of this current pattern of relentless Gales and Rain. Yes, im looking for very early signs of Spring.


Gary, Torquay, Devon. 85 Meters / 279 Feet ASL

Thunderstorms in 2013: 28th September 3.30am - 8.00am Storm that lasted over 4 Hours

Thunderstorms in 2013: 17th June 6.30pm. bright Lightning out at sea - Deep Bass Thunder

Thunderstorms in 2012: 11th August 10:30pm. bright Lightning - Deep Bass Thunder

Thunderstorms in 2012: 28th June 2:00am From Spainish Plume. 5 sec lightning flashes

Thunderstorms (Flickering Lightning) in 2012: 26th May 2:30 From Spainish Plume

Osprey
06 February 2014 23:09:39

To be fair, I'm looking forward to seeing subtle changes and some signs of something to bring us out of this current pattern of relentless Gales and Rain. Yes, im looking for very early signs of Spring.

Originally Posted by: Gaz 

I still have hope for this around the 21st http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020618/gfs-0-348.png?18

More for a stop to falling down water and moving air


Nobody likes a smartass, especially another smartass...

If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

GIBBY
06 February 2014 23:26:46

Well tonights 120hr fax says it all really.

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ukmo2.php?ech=120&carte=2000 Round 21...


Martin G

Kilmersdon Radstock Bath Somerset

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tallyho_83
07 February 2014 00:01:20
FI stuck at 00z??

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn38417.png 


Home Location - Vixen Tor Close, Okehampton, Devon (221m ASL)

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Sean Moon

Magical Moon

www.magical-moon.com

Matty H
07 February 2014 00:02:55

Well tonights 120hr fax says it all really.

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ukmo2.php?ech=120&carte=2000 Round 21...

Originally Posted by: GIBBY 

Good grief 😢


Yate, Nr Bristol

TBFTEIARBSC

roger63
07 February 2014 07:09:54

No sign of any let up in ops or Gefs.

% zonal from Gefs

240h 95:5

312h 75:25

384h 75:25

Andy Woodcock
07 February 2014 07:33:56

Well tonights 120hr fax says it all really.

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ukmo2.php?ech=120&carte=2000 Round 21...

Originally Posted by: GIBBY 

It's remarkable that all these low pressure systems follow almost exactly the same route and occlude in the same way!

If only depressions went up the English Channel with such frequency and precision!

Andy

Also that spells a quick snow to rain event for most not the blizzards I have seen on some output last night


Andy Woodcock

Penrith

Cumbria

Altitude 535 feet

"Why are the British so worried about climate change? Any change to their climate can only be an improvement" John Daley 2001

Sevendust
07 February 2014 07:37:49

The output remain grim today - Several major lows expected to hit the UK in the next fortnight

Gooner
07 February 2014 07:38:01

The output shows little sign of any let up to the rain rain rain

 

woeful

 

 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus

Banbury

North Oxfordshire

378 feet A S L



Matty H
07 February 2014 07:50:01
UKMO is grim indeed for next Tuesday, although GFS and ECM take the storm further south.
Yate, Nr Bristol

TBFTEIARBSC

Scandy 1050 MB
07 February 2014 08:33:44

UKMO is grim indeed for next Tuesday, although GFS and ECM take the storm further south.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Yes grim output from all of the models, did look like yesterday in GFS that we could see things begin to ease at the FI end of the output but back to square one today. Not too difficult to believe we might have to wait until March now for anything different - astonishing if that verifies to have 3 identical winter months with the same weather all the way through - will be one for the record books in the future I think.

The only good thing you can say I suppose is that the days are getting longer but that's about it

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