Sevendust
06 February 2014 11:51:58

Originally Posted by: vince 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3362.gif


We deserve this after all the crap we've been through


Would be a nice way to finish the winter



http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020606/gfsnh-1-384.png?6


Be funny if snow came throughout March



 


bloody wouldnt be , after last years vile puke it would be nice to get the growing season off on time for a change ,  yes want a good frost  to kill of the grubs buried in the soil and to get the spuds in the ground in March rather than May ta very much



It could be a disaster for the growing industry.....the most crucial thing needed is a reduction of rain

soperman
06 February 2014 12:53:23

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3362.gif


We deserve this after all the crap we've been through


Would be a nice way to finish the winter



http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020606/gfsnh-1-384.png?6


Be funny if snow came throughout March



Hi Marcus


March is often cold which I tend to hate actually. But this year after all this rain, wind and mildness, I say bring it on.


There have been a few signals deep into FI of a pattern change.  This is often expected in late Jan and February when the jet tends to weaken and perhaps this will occur this year but just later.


I like the way in deep FI how the Scandi block is reinforced by the arctic high.


Will be taking a muchcloser interset in the ECM 240 over the coming week.


 


 

doctor snow
06 February 2014 13:02:36
Mmm 6z looking good in far 384 hours another bail of straw to hold on 2 .something for the coldies
Maunder Minimum
06 February 2014 13:31:40

Originally Posted by: doctor snow 

Mmm 6z looking good in far 384 hours another bail of straw to hold on 2 .something for the coldies


I don't happen to think it is straw clutching. The prevailing weather will change at some point and as we get closer to the vernal equinox, change becomes more likely. It is perfectly possible that as the weather becomes more settled, it also becomes much colder - large HP cells have been lurking to our east and to our north for some time now - once the Atlantic quietens down, they may be ready to pounce!


New world order coming.
Gooner
06 February 2014 13:42:32

Originally Posted by: doctor snow 

Mmm 6z looking good in far 384 hours another bail of straw to hold on 2 .something for the coldies


There have been a number of runs on GFS that has hinted at a more settled/colder spell, a trend to watch


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


doctor snow
06 February 2014 14:01:42
Lets hope the cold comes sooner and not pushed back into f1 . Be fun with lots of ice rinks every where with all the flood water u wont need a boat to get home in Dorset but some ice skates will be needed
RobN
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06 February 2014 14:15:38

Some support for end of month cold is appearing.


GFS control run also is quite decent from T+276 esp for the north.


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/run/gensnh-0-1-276.png?


ECM control is also in a colder cluster in de Bilt ens.


http://www.knmi.nl/exp/pluim/vijftiendaagse/index.php


A lot of runs to get through yet though


Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
Maunder Minimum
06 February 2014 14:52:57

Originally Posted by: RobN 


Some support for end of month cold is appearing.


GFS control run also is quite decent from T+276 esp for the north.


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/run/gensnh-0-1-276.png?


ECM control is also in a colder cluster in de Bilt ens.


http://www.knmi.nl/exp/pluim/vijftiendaagse/index.php


A lot of runs to get through yet though



It is a logical progression. Pressure is building to the north and as the sun starts to impact on the Polar night jet, the vortex will become less powerful.


February often sees a more settled spell of weather as a consequence of a decline in vorticity - it is just starting from a very bad place this year, so it is taking time to manifest itself.


New world order coming.
Gavin P
06 February 2014 15:35:50

Hi all,


Very speculative video update today, but we're looking at the chances of drier (and colder) conditions after mid-month;


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


 


Rural West Northants 120m asl
Short, medium and long range weather forecast videos @ https://www.youtube.com/user/GavsWeatherVids
briggsy6
06 February 2014 16:08:44

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Originally Posted by: RobN 


Some support for end of month cold is appearing.


GFS control run also is quite decent from T+276 esp for the north.


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/run/gensnh-0-1-276.png?


ECM control is also in a colder cluster in de Bilt ens.


http://www.knmi.nl/exp/pluim/vijftiendaagse/index.php


A lot of runs to get through yet though



It is a logical progression. Pressure is building to the north and as the sun starts to impact on the Polar night jet, the vortex will become less powerful.


February often sees a more settled spell of weather as a consequence of a decline in vorticity - it is just starting from a very bad place this year, so it is taking time to manifest itself.



Having just checked my copy of Collins:The Ultimate Guide to the Elements I find that February is usually considerably drier month than January, and surprisingly March is drier still.


Location: Uxbridge
The Beast from the East
06 February 2014 16:31:03

Both UKMO and GFS say it could be cold enough for some snow around the 10th and 11th


http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/runs/2014020612/UW96-7.GIF?06-17


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The Beast from the East
06 February 2014 16:36:05

Again signs of change mid month, and a welcome taste of cold


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020612/gfsnh-0-240.png?12


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Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
SEMerc
06 February 2014 16:58:32

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Both UKMO and GFS say it could be cold enough for some snow around the 10th and 11th


http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/runs/2014020612/UW96-7.GIF?06-17



Aside from a hut on Ben Nevis I doubt it with those uppers.

Whether Idle
06 February 2014 16:59:45

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Again signs of change mid month, and a welcome taste of cold


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020612/gfsnh-0-240.png?12



Its the DRY we are after, Beast!


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Osprey
06 February 2014 17:06:18
http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020612/gfs-0-384.png?12?12 


I don't care what it does, warm or cold, all I want is continuous dry weather...


Nobody likes a smartass, especially another smartass...
If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Quantum
06 February 2014 17:22:00

Seeing potentially very disruptive snow event next tuesday, even lower levels could see excess of 5, even 10cm if nothing goes wrong. Easily the snowiest event all winter so far. Expecting amber warning by the metoffice. 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Charmhills
06 February 2014 17:22:25

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Again signs of change mid month, and a welcome taste of cold


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014020612/gfsnh-0-240.png?12



Its the DRY we are after, Beast!



Not much sign of that from the 12z so far.


Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.
Quantum
06 February 2014 17:25:12

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Both UKMO and GFS say it could be cold enough for some snow around the 10th and 11th


http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/runs/2014020612/UW96-7.GIF?06-17



Aside from a hut on Ben Nevis I doubt it with those uppers.



Don't fall into a 850 addiction :P


Remember that is a warm occluded front, you need uppers of only about -3C to get snow on that provided it is well defined, uppers take no account of the lapse rate which means the rules are different for different situs. Uppers of between -4 and -6 are easily cold enough for a snow event on especially tuesday. 


Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
marting
06 February 2014 17:28:05
Hi ink that is 5 consecutive GFS runs now showing colder options after 192 hours. A trend, but more runs and time will tell if it develops. Looks like the progression is similarly shown through ECM. At least that should mean drier, although not so bad here as in shelter of Wales and we have a lot less flooding than last year.
Martin
Martin
Greasby, Wirral.
David M Porter
06 February 2014 17:48:13

Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


Hi all,


Very speculative video update today, but we're looking at the chances of drier (and colder) conditions after mid-month;


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


 



Let's hope that it does turn drier at some point this month, even if it isn't particularly cold with it.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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