idj20
07 August 2013 14:03:18

Originally Posted by: ManUtdMatt1986 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Originally Posted by: ManUtdMatt1986 


Liking the look of February from the CFS - http://images.meteociel.fr/im/24686/cfs-1-2-2014_ycb3.png



Quality...................if only eh?



What do you mean, if only? It's a dead cert




Is this the record for the earliest ramp?


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Gooner
07 August 2013 17:26:07

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn21617.png


warming up later


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Marcus
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Stormchaser
07 August 2013 18:18:55

After those few steps back, the 12z GFS run has continued the trend towards high pressure gaining more of a foothold across the UK that began with last night's 18z, and UKMO is on board too


Maybe the middle of August will see some high pressure dominance after all...?


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GIBBY
07 August 2013 19:13:50

Good evening. Here is my view on the midday outputs from GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for today Wednesday August 7th 2013.


The General Situation. Over the next 5 days the weather can best be described as changeable with the emphasis always on dry and bright conditions over the short periods of rain that will affect the UK over tomorrow night and again on Sunday as troughs cross East in the otherwise benign pressure pattern. In the clearer periods on Monday some showers may affect the North in a cool NW breeze. It will feel pleasantly warm in the South at times with Saturday looking particularly pleasant while Monday too though pleasant could feel rather fresher.


GFS then shows the rest of next week with High pressure building across the South with dry and pleasantly warm conditions developing with good sunny spells while the North maintain somewhat less settled for a longer while into the week. Nevertheless by the weekend Low pressure regains control to the North pushing troughs East across all areas through that weekend and into the new week with rain and showers in all areas at times. Then at the end of the run High pressure builds solidly just to the East of the UK with increasingly very warm or hot conditions developing for all from the South.


The GFS Ensembles show the operational was an outlier at the end unfortunately with many members preferring to keep very average conditions going over the UK with rain at times, chiefly in the North while the South sees the best of the drier and sunnier breaks in the Nationally average temperatures.


The Jet Stream tonight continues to blow across the Atlantic close to or over the British Isles where it remains for the reliable future.


UKMO tonight shows High pressure building into Southern Britain from the SW with a spell of fine and warm weather developing for Southern areas at least by the middle of the week though how long fine conditions last is open to debate tonight.


GEM keeps the theme of High pressure remaining reasonably close to the South through much of next week before any meaningful attack of cool and unsettled weather makes any inroads beyond Northern Britain.


NAVGEM is in full agreement of the above prognosis too with fine weather in the South throughout the second half of it's run as High pressure remains just to the South of the UK. The North though will see less certain events with more of a Westerly breeze accentuating the risk of rain at times here.


ECM keeps to it's plan of this morning with High pressure held at arms length to the SW of the UK so that by the middle of next week the cool NW flow of the early days are replaced by a broad Westerly flow with troughs crossing East delivering rain or showers from midweek on in technically rather cool conditions but I'm sure that in between the rain bands it would feel pleasant enough.


In Summary tonight it's a pity that ECM isn't playing ball tonight as it's the fly in the ointment of an otherwise acceptable night's output. All models (UKMO included) except ECM have High pressure coming close to the South of the UK with the promise of some decent fine weather with sunny spells and warm conditions next week. ECM though has been resolute in maintaining it's stance on the more mobile and unsettled weather next week and must not be discounted despite it's isolation. we can only hope that it backs off soon to take a more UKMO type route.


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cowman
07 August 2013 19:28:41
Thanks martin
Gooner
07 August 2013 20:02:49

ECM not so keen on the push from the HP


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Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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Gavin P
07 August 2013 21:19:23

Yeah, real split tonight between ECM and GFS. Quite unusual to see it that stark.


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Matty H
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07 August 2013 21:32:20
Originally Posted by: Gavin P 

Yeah, real split tonight between ECM and GFS. Quite unusual to see it that stark.



I've no faith whatsoever in the GFS after multiple mid-range fails over the last 6-8 months. My money is on ECM
Gooner
07 August 2013 23:41:59

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn16817.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn19217.png


GFS keeping many nice and warm


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Gooner
07 August 2013 23:52:34

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2401.png


GFS still keen on the HP ruling the roost


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Steam Fog
08 August 2013 07:15:58
Looks dry for most (bar western Scotland) in coming week.

http://www.wxmaps.org/pix/prec4.html 
GIBBY
08 August 2013 07:38:18

Good morning. Due to child minding my 3 yr old granddaughter today here is a briefer than normal report on the morning outputs from GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for today Thursday August 8th 2013.


All models show the pattern as before between now and Monday of next week with alternating periods of dry and bright weather with cloud and outbreaks of rain. The rainier spells look most likely to be tonight and again on Sunday. It will be relatively warm in the sunshine today, tomorrow and Saturday before it feels somewhat fresher in a NW breeze on Monday following Sundays band of rain.


GFS then shows a changeable pattern between cloudier and damper spells mixed with dry, bright and sometimes warm weather as ridges pass by. In general terms the weather would always be better in the South than the North where rainfall and wind will be more coherent at times.


The GFS Ensembles show a period of average conditions to come over the UK with the warmer operational looking a bit isolated in it's warmer evolution towards the end of the run. No great rainfall amounts are shown anywhere with the SE being dry for a large amount of the time close to High pressure to the South.


The Jet Stream shows the flow unrelenting on a latitude close to the United Kingdom for the reliable future.


UKMO today has taken a step back since last night with a much more robust Westerly airflow through the middle of next week with rain at times crossing West to East in temperatures close to average.


GEM today is very similar to UKMO with fresh Westerly winds and rain at times midweek evolving forward to a continuation of changeable weather interspersed with short drier periods as ridges of High pressure pass by at the weekend. Temperatures are shown close to average.


NAVGEM is in the higher pressure to the South camp with dry and bright weather for much of the time there while the North sees more chance of rain at times in the Westerly flow.


ECM today has shown the opposite of UKMO with it maintaining much higher pressure close to the South midweek next week on this morning's output. however, it does continue to bring in more unsettled weather to all areas to end the run.


In Summary today there is some shuffling about between the models this morning but the general message remains the same as Westerly winds look like being maintained with some rain at times for all but more especially in the North for the first half of next week before more areas see the risk of rain increase by the end of the week as the Lows and their troughs sink further South. Temperatures will never stray far from average though that doesn't exclude some warmer days. especially in the South.


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Gooner
08 August 2013 08:21:00

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn16217.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn18617.png


GFS warming up nicely


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Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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Charmhills
08 August 2013 08:56:57

Originally Posted by: GIBBY 


In Summary today there is some shuffling about between the models this morning but the general message remains the same as Westerly winds look like being maintained with some rain at times for all but more especially in the North for the first half of next week before more areas see the risk of rain increase by the end of the week as the Lows and their troughs sink further South. Temperatures will never stray far from average though that doesn't exclude some warmer days. especially in the South.



Summed up well there GIBBY.


GFS next to useless........IMO!


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Stormchaser
08 August 2013 09:50:24

All models but GFS and NAVGEM have a very flat jet with troughs knocking ridges down before they have much of a say in things.


Normally I'd favour the more amplified solution (GFS and NAVGEM) based on the fact that we often see the jet energy reduced from what the models show at 5+ days range, but in this case the voting in favour of the flat jet scenario is too strong to sensibly stand against.




Form horse, then, is for it to be driest and warmest in the SE, with conditions progressively cooler and wetter the further west and north you go, but with nothing worse than changeable for much of England and Wales during the next week or so.


Not great, but not too bad either. Still very benign IMBY but very useable


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Gavin P
08 August 2013 13:12:42

Hi all,


We're searching for Heatwave's in todays video update;


http://www.gavsweathervids.com/


Do you think we'll find any?



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08 August 2013 13:21:11

Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


Hi all,


We're searching for Heatwave's in todays video update;


http://www.gavsweathervids.com/


Do you think we'll find any?




Well, I've had a number of people on my page saying they've heard a heat wave is on the way. Stupid media

The Beast from the East
08 August 2013 16:37:29

Is this the start of the next Daily Express/James Madden Heatwave?


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1441.gif


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Steam Fog
08 August 2013 16:46:13
Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Is this the start of the next Daily Express/James Madden Heatwave?


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1441.gif



Fantasy 32C?

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn36017.png 

;)
Gavin P
08 August 2013 16:46:41

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Is this the start of the next Daily Express/James Madden Heatwave?


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1441.gif



No, but this might be the start of a hotter spell in the final ten days of August;


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2761.png


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