Osprey
06 August 2013 06:02:10

Originally Posted by: Steve Murr 


I hate to say it- but I think summers on the way out- that is the glorious weather we have experienced in July-


 


I think the August 500 heights will NOT be dominated by heights to the SW - but a return to a more flow in the west to NW quarter-


 


Probably average, maybe slightly above, but i get the feeling were on the way down now :(



 


No we've just been spoilt thats all with some high temps...


Summer is imo back to normal with several dry warm days and


the occasional rainy day or two and it could last past October... (Well winter did last way, way into spring)


 


 


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picturesareme
06 August 2013 06:28:10
Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Originally Posted by: Steve Murr 

I hate to say it- but I think summers on the way out- that is the glorious weather we have experienced in July-


 


I think the August 500 heights will NOT be dominated by heights to the SW - but a return to a more flow in the west to NW quarter-


 


Probably average, maybe slightly above, but i get the feeling were on the way down now :(



If this coming week had happened last year we'd be on the up. Don't mistake a change in pattern with a change in season. It's still very much summer. It's August the 5th! 😂

The rest of this week looks pretty damn decent for a fair few. Beyond that I don't even look as it is rather pointless.



This week? Going simply on metoffice automated forecast for my city 4/5 days are forecasted to be below average 3/5 days to be overcast. Breezy too.

Very poor week ahead for seasonal warmth.
Sevendust
06 August 2013 06:56:43

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Originally Posted by: Steve Murr 


I hate to say it- but I think summers on the way out- that is the glorious weather we have experienced in July-


 


I think the August 500 heights will NOT be dominated by heights to the SW - but a return to a more flow in the west to NW quarter-


 


Probably average, maybe slightly above, but i get the feeling were on the way down now :(




If this coming week had happened last year we'd be on the up. Don't mistake a change in pattern with a change in season. It's still very much summer. It's August the 5th! LOL

The rest of this week looks pretty damn decent for a fair few. Beyond that I don't even look as it is rather pointless.



This week? Going simply on metoffice automated forecast for my city 4/5 days are forecasted to be below average 3/5 days to be overcast. Breezy too.

Very poor week ahead for seasonal warmth.


21/21/22/22/20 and dry here for the next 5 days if the BBC is to believed. That is average in my book and very useable weather.


Methinks Steve is teasing as he does sometimes. He could be right of course but bearing in mind the state of LRFing its pxssing in the wind after a few days IMO

Matty H
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06 August 2013 07:03:55
Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Originally Posted by: Steve Murr 

I hate to say it- but I think summers on the way out- that is the glorious weather we have experienced in July-


 


I think the August 500 heights will NOT be dominated by heights to the SW - but a return to a more flow in the west to NW quarter-


 


Probably average, maybe slightly above, but i get the feeling were on the way down now :(



If this coming week had happened last year we'd be on the up. Don't mistake a change in pattern with a change in season. It's still very much summer. It's August the 5th! 😂

The rest of this week looks pretty damn decent for a fair few. Beyond that I don't even look as it is rather pointless.



This week? Going simply on metoffice automated forecast for my city 4/5 days are forecasted to be below average 3/5 days to be overcast. Breezy too.

Very poor week ahead for seasonal warmth.



Forecast to be 70f or over here every single day this week. If that's poor then I must have moved to Vegas and not realised.
doctormog
06 August 2013 07:12:52
BBC forecast values here are 17/15/16/19/16 - given their recent performance these mostly below average values should translate into something a bit more average or maybe even a bit above. If they do prove to be accurate for the first time in months it will indeed be disappointing.

The outlook, as has been suggested, is nowhere near as warm as the July, but given the warmth if July that would be a bit much to expect.

Essentially the outlook seems pretty average with sunshine and showers, warmer to the south and cooler to the north. Nothing significant in the big picture.
Andy Woodcock
06 August 2013 07:38:22
I agree with Steve Murrs ealier post, we had an inch of rain here yesterday and temperatures back down in single figures every day. The SE is hanging on to some decent weather but for the rest of us summer is going down hill. This mornings output is poor with an OK day Saturday being followed by a nasty little low Sunday and Monday that will bring some missrable weather here. The nights are drawing in and suddenly it doesnt feel like summer anymore. Andy
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ARTzeman
06 August 2013 07:50:10

Bring on that Autumnal feel with cool clear nights and condensation on the windows ......






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GIBBY
06 August 2013 07:52:15

Ok. Let's hopefully put this morning's output into perspective.


Hi everyone. Here is my morning take on the latest 00z outputs from GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for today Tuesday August 2013 2013.


The General Situation. All models show the UK under a slack flow of winds today and through until later on Thursday. While not drastically unstable the air will have enough instability aloft to promote some shower growth, especially tomorrow when some heavy and slow moving showers are possible almost anywhere. On Friday a front associated to Low pressure well to the NW will cross East through the day with a spell of rain and drizzle for most before a WNW flow brings a return to sunny spells and scattered showers on Saturday with most of the showers in the North. Temperatures look like staying in the average levels between 17C-23C Northwest to Southeast through the week.


GFS then shows another very weak front crossing SE on Sunday followed by a ridge of High pressure which relaxes South towards Southern Britain only by midweek with winder and more unsettled weather reaching the North by midweek. After a little rain on Sunday the South could become bright and quite warm for a few days early next week. Through the second half of the run the weather remains rather breezy and changeable with some rain or showers for all at times, the heavier rain most likely in the North closest to Low pressure crossing East but extending to the South too at times in temperatures never very far from the mid August averages listed above.


The GFS Ensembles show a changeable pattern this morning which never moves towards anything very warm. In fact a more Northerly incursion shown by some members to end the run could make it feel rather Autumnal as uppers fall below average right at the end. Despite these rather indifferent temperature profiles it never looks overly wet in the South with most of the rainfall in the North, though some will reach the South at times especially later.


The Jet Stream profile to support this outcome shows that the UK remains it's transit stop on it's way to Europe for the foreseeable future. There are peaks and troughs shown in the flow above or to the South of the UK giving windows of brighter warmer weather between the cooler and more changeable periods.


UKMO today shows Low pressure over Scotland next Monday with a showery West or NW flow over the UK. Temperatures would be close to average with some chilly nights. A mix of sunshine and showers look the most likely weather type with showers most likely towards Northern and Western coasts overnight and inland through the day when some could be heavy and thundery. In among this though some bright dry and warm feeling spells of sunshine would also be likely.


GEM today also wants to bring a cooler NW feed of air down over the UK early next week. It may be interrupted at times by slightly warmer winds that temporarily back SW in the South before a renewed surge of NW'lies are shown to end the run which generally looks more unsettled by then with occasional rain becoming more frequent across all areas and not just the North by the end of the run.


NAVGEM too supports a NW feed of cooler air as we move into next week with High pressure down to the SW and Low pressure to the North. Sunshine and showers looks the odds on weather type though there wouldn't be many showers in the South with most in the North where the coolest temperatures would also be felt in the fresh breeze.


ECM today shows a NW flow early next week following Sundays trough SE. There would be plenty of dry and bright weather across the South if not very warm in a cool breeze. The North would be more prone to showers in a somewhat stronger NW wind. The NW flow is shown to weaken midweek when it would probably feel warmer for a time, especially in the South as winds back SW. Later a more marked turn to rather changeable weather looks likely as Low pressure to the North spreads it's influence to affect all of the UK by the weekend with rain at times and blustery Westerly winds and temperatures close to average.


In Summary this morning it looks as though after the benign conditions of this week things could remain much the same next week with the UK never particularly close to any particular weather feature 'Low' or 'High' for it to gain overall control. The source of air largely from the NW will never make it excitingly warm with average temperatures for most places on most days, though a few warmer slots are possible in the South at times. Rainfall will be more concentrated towards the North closest to Atlantic troughs passing by while some parts of the South could see very little rain over the period. However, there are signs from the longer term models that things could turn more Nationally unsettled by mid month with more appreciable rain at times for all in a basically Westerly setup. Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be anything very warm and settled likely on a Nationwide basis such as the July heatwave delivered anytime soon as the Azores High seems content to stay well to the SW of the UK.


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ARTzeman
06 August 2013 07:53:49

Thanks Martin...


 


Very good  Output...






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Others just get wet.
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Sevendust
06 August 2013 10:32:40

Thanks Martin - Probably the only post anyone really needs to read in here

picturesareme
06 August 2013 11:19:32
Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Originally Posted by: Steve Murr 

I hate to say it- but I think summers on the way out- that is the glorious weather we have experienced in July-


 


I think the August 500 heights will NOT be dominated by heights to the SW - but a return to a more flow in the west to NW quarter-


 


Probably average, maybe slightly above, but i get the feeling were on the way down now :(



If this coming week had happened last year we'd be on the up. Don't mistake a change in pattern with a change in season. It's still very much summer. It's August the 5th! 😂

The rest of this week looks pretty damn decent for a fair few. Beyond that I don't even look as it is rather pointless.



This week? Going simply on metoffice automated forecast for my city 4/5 days are forecasted to be below average 3/5 days to be overcast. Breezy too.

Very poor week ahead for seasonal warmth.



Forecast to be 70f or over here every single day this week. If that's poor then I must have moved to Vegas and not realised.



2 days at 19, 2days 20 and one at 22. considering our average is just over 21C this when factoring in the cloud is pathetic.
Matty H
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06 August 2013 12:19:22
Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Originally Posted by: Steve Murr 

I hate to say it- but I think summers on the way out- that is the glorious weather we have experienced in July-


 


I think the August 500 heights will NOT be dominated by heights to the SW - but a return to a more flow in the west to NW quarter-


 


Probably average, maybe slightly above, but i get the feeling were on the way down now :(



If this coming week had happened last year we'd be on the up. Don't mistake a change in pattern with a change in season. It's still very much summer. It's August the 5th! 😂

The rest of this week looks pretty damn decent for a fair few. Beyond that I don't even look as it is rather pointless.



This week? Going simply on metoffice automated forecast for my city 4/5 days are forecasted to be below average 3/5 days to be overcast. Breezy too.

Very poor week ahead for seasonal warmth.



Forecast to be 70f or over here every single day this week. If that's poor then I must have moved to Vegas and not realised.



2 days at 19, 2days 20 and one at 22. considering our average is just over 21C this when factoring in the cloud is pathetic.



Maybe where you are. For here "pathetic" was last summer and temps in the lower and mid teens.

Great post, Martin, BTW 👍
cultman1
06 August 2013 12:53:43
Brian Gaze's Buzz paints a potentially more optimistic output than Martin's AM forecast for next week's weather? ...with the emphasis on warm weather for the South at least with high pressure building....
Gavin P
06 August 2013 13:34:26

Hi all,


Here's todays video update;


"Normal" Conditions For Mid August;


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


All looks fairly average to me - Which in late summer means pretty nice weather overall.


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Polar Low
06 August 2013 14:10:37

 


 Probably the only post anyone really needs to read in here


 


 


Excuse me what is that supposed to mean?


 I dont understand comment many clever people post here Steve M and James to name a few don’t forget many are new and learning curve is long.


Please gives those members a chance if not happy u can always pm them.


From my point of view I know I have a disability and been through a lot but I always try to do my very best for the Model Discussion.


 


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


Thanks Martin - Probably the only post anyone really needs to read in here


Edicius81
06 August 2013 14:18:56
Originally Posted by: Polar Low 

 


 Probably the only post anyone really needs to read in here


 


 


Excuse me what is that supposed to mean?


 I dont understand comment many clever people post here Steve M and James to name a few don’t forget many are new and learning curve is long.


Please gives those members a chance if not happy u can always pm them.


From my point of view I know I have a disability and been through a lot but I always try to do my very best for the Model Discussion.


 


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


Thanks Martin - Probably the only post anyone really needs to read in here




I don't want to put words in Dave's mouth, but I imagine the stress is on the 'needs'. There is obviously loads of useful info in the thread, but if anyone was looking for a one stop shop, just skipping to Gibby's posts would suffice.
Polar Low
06 August 2013 14:25:08

Thanks Gav


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


Hi all,


Here's todays video update;


"Normal" Conditions For Mid August;


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


All looks fairly average to me - Which in late summer means pretty nice weather overall.


nouska
06 August 2013 14:27:37

Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


 


 Probably the only post anyone really needs to read in here


 


 


Excuse me what is that supposed to mean?


 I dont understand comment many clever people post here Steve M and James to name a few don’t forget many are new and learning curve is long.


Please gives those members a chance if not happy u can always pm them.


From my point of view I know I have a disability and been through a lot but I always try to do my very best for the Model Discussion.


 


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


Thanks Martin - Probably the only post anyone really needs to read in here




I can assure you that Dave does not do put downs, you misinterpret his meaning. He's saying that if you are in a hurry, for a quick glance, with no agenda or bias, the daily outlook that Gibson does, will suffice for most.


 

Polar Low
06 August 2013 14:35:55

can c now apologies and sorry Dave I dont uderstand off cuff stuff or most humur not really part of me or my life felt like something nasty but its just part of my aspergers so so sorry Dave.


 


Originally Posted by: nouska 


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


 


 Probably the only post anyone really needs to read in here


 


 


Excuse me what is that supposed to mean?


 I dont understand comment many clever people post here Steve M and James to name a few don’t forget many are new and learning curve is long.


Please gives those members a chance if not happy u can always pm them.


From my point of view I know I have a disability and been through a lot but I always try to do my very best for the Model Discussion.


 


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


Thanks Martin - Probably the only post anyone really needs to read in here




I can assure you that Dave does not do put downs, you misinterpret his meaning. He's saying that if you are in a hurry, for a quick glance, with no agenda or bias, the daily outlook that Gibson does, will suffice for most.


 


Polar Low
06 August 2013 14:40:23

Thanks Martin


Originally Posted by: GIBBY 


Ok. Let's hopefully put this morning's output into perspective.


Hi everyone. Here is my morning take on the latest 00z outputs from GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for today Tuesday August 2013 2013.


The General Situation. All models show the UK under a slack flow of winds today and through until later on Thursday. While not drastically unstable the air will have enough instability aloft to promote some shower growth, especially tomorrow when some heavy and slow moving showers are possible almost anywhere. On Friday a front associated to Low pressure well to the NW will cross East through the day with a spell of rain and drizzle for most before a WNW flow brings a return to sunny spells and scattered showers on Saturday with most of the showers in the North. Temperatures look like staying in the average levels between 17C-23C Northwest to Southeast through the week.


GFS then shows another very weak front crossing SE on Sunday followed by a ridge of High pressure which relaxes South towards Southern Britain only by midweek with winder and more unsettled weather reaching the North by midweek. After a little rain on Sunday the South could become bright and quite warm for a few days early next week. Through the second half of the run the weather remains rather breezy and changeable with some rain or showers for all at times, the heavier rain most likely in the North closest to Low pressure crossing East but extending to the South too at times in temperatures never very far from the mid August averages listed above.


The GFS Ensembles show a changeable pattern this morning which never moves towards anything very warm. In fact a more Northerly incursion shown by some members to end the run could make it feel rather Autumnal as uppers fall below average right at the end. Despite these rather indifferent temperature profiles it never looks overly wet in the South with most of the rainfall in the North, though some will reach the South at times especially later.


The Jet Stream profile to support this outcome shows that the UK remains it's transit stop on it's way to Europe for the foreseeable future. There are peaks and troughs shown in the flow above or to the South of the UK giving windows of brighter warmer weather between the cooler and more changeable periods.


UKMO today shows Low pressure over Scotland next Monday with a showery West or NW flow over the UK. Temperatures would be close to average with some chilly nights. A mix of sunshine and showers look the most likely weather type with showers most likely towards Northern and Western coasts overnight and inland through the day when some could be heavy and thundery. In among this though some bright dry and warm feeling spells of sunshine would also be likely.


GEM today also wants to bring a cooler NW feed of air down over the UK early next week. It may be interrupted at times by slightly warmer winds that temporarily back SW in the South before a renewed surge of NW'lies are shown to end the run which generally looks more unsettled by then with occasional rain becoming more frequent across all areas and not just the North by the end of the run.


NAVGEM too supports a NW feed of cooler air as we move into next week with High pressure down to the SW and Low pressure to the North. Sunshine and showers looks the odds on weather type though there wouldn't be many showers in the South with most in the North where the coolest temperatures would also be felt in the fresh breeze.


ECM today shows a NW flow early next week following Sundays trough SE. There would be plenty of dry and bright weather across the South if not very warm in a cool breeze. The North would be more prone to showers in a somewhat stronger NW wind. The NW flow is shown to weaken midweek when it would probably feel warmer for a time, especially in the South as winds back SW. Later a more marked turn to rather changeable weather looks likely as Low pressure to the North spreads it's influence to affect all of the UK by the weekend with rain at times and blustery Westerly winds and temperatures close to average.


In Summary this morning it looks as though after the benign conditions of this week things could remain much the same next week with the UK never particularly close to any particular weather feature 'Low' or 'High' for it to gain overall control. The source of air largely from the NW will never make it excitingly warm with average temperatures for most places on most days, though a few warmer slots are possible in the South at times. Rainfall will be more concentrated towards the North closest to Atlantic troughs passing by while some parts of the South could see very little rain over the period. However, there are signs from the longer term models that things could turn more Nationally unsettled by mid month with more appreciable rain at times for all in a basically Westerly setup. Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be anything very warm and settled likely on a Nationwide basis such as the July heatwave delivered anytime soon as the Azores High seems content to stay well to the SW of the UK.


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