cowman
05 August 2013 07:59:01
Thanks martin
Charmhills
05 August 2013 09:37:04

Originally Posted by: GIBBY 


In Summary today the pattern of events is pretty much sorted with a useable week to come for most between any showers. Following an indifferent weekend when Saturday will be the best of the two days, next week looks like turning rather cooler and fresher in  what is strong support between the models of a spell of NW winds. Most models show High pressure moving in closer to Southern and Western parts bringing fine if not overly warm conditions here while the North keep a few showers going but ECM and  GFS too show an open door to Low pressure from the Atlantic early next week returning a mix of sunshine and showers and the odd longer spell of rain too. So putting all this together the general outlook for the next two weeks for the UK looks 'changeable' with some dry and bright weather mixed with outbreaks of rain or showers in OK temperatures without ever becoming excitingly warm. Nevertheless, it still is a vast improvement on the events of last summer and I don't think too many complaints would arise if this morning's output verified.



Nicely summary there GIBBY.


Even though its changeable and somewhat cooler its nothing like last summers total washout!


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Sevendust
05 August 2013 09:59:01

Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


Originally Posted by: GIBBY 


In Summary today the pattern of events is pretty much sorted with a useable week to come for most between any showers. Following an indifferent weekend when Saturday will be the best of the two days, next week looks like turning rather cooler and fresher in  what is strong support between the models of a spell of NW winds. Most models show High pressure moving in closer to Southern and Western parts bringing fine if not overly warm conditions here while the North keep a few showers going but ECM and  GFS too show an open door to Low pressure from the Atlantic early next week returning a mix of sunshine and showers and the odd longer spell of rain too. So putting all this together the general outlook for the next two weeks for the UK looks 'changeable' with some dry and bright weather mixed with outbreaks of rain or showers in OK temperatures without ever becoming excitingly warm. Nevertheless, it still is a vast improvement on the events of last summer and I don't think too many complaints would arise if this morning's output verified.



Nicely summary there GIBBY.


Even though its changeable and somewhat cooler its nothing like last summers total washout!



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Stormchaser
05 August 2013 10:10:04

The current model output leaves me staring blankly out of the window - it's that benign.


If you're in England in particular, at least for 5-7 days (or more) from tomorrow it should be possible to venture outside during whatever free time you have and have a reasonable chance of staying dry


Elsewhere... cross your fingers, you might get lucky with GFS not showing much between Tuesday and Saturday.


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05 August 2013 10:13:04

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


Originally Posted by: GIBBY 


In Summary today the pattern of events is pretty much sorted with a useable week to come for most between any showers. Following an indifferent weekend when Saturday will be the best of the two days, next week looks like turning rather cooler and fresher in  what is strong support between the models of a spell of NW winds. Most models show High pressure moving in closer to Southern and Western parts bringing fine if not overly warm conditions here while the North keep a few showers going but ECM and  GFS too show an open door to Low pressure from the Atlantic early next week returning a mix of sunshine and showers and the odd longer spell of rain too. So putting all this together the general outlook for the next two weeks for the UK looks 'changeable' with some dry and bright weather mixed with outbreaks of rain or showers in OK temperatures without ever becoming excitingly warm. Nevertheless, it still is a vast improvement on the events of last summer and I don't think too many complaints would arise if this morning's output verified.



Nicely summary there GIBBY.


Even though its changeable and somewhat cooler its nothing like last summers total washout!



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Yes not too bad at all and could be a lot, lot worse!  Hints from the GEM and Navgem to a point of some warmer interludes at times especially in the South:


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/geme_cartes.php?&ech=138&mode=0&carte=0


 


And JFF inline with Gavin's excellent 6 month video at the weekend,  September on CFS looks like resuming the slightly below average temperature profile and October still looking chilly:


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/cfsme_cartes.php?ech=1&mode=1&carte=0&run=10


January still bitter too, of course will change on the next run but interesting how the trends for these months seem reasonably consistent. 

Steam Fog
05 August 2013 18:45:10
After today's dousing looks pretty dry for most.

http://www.wxmaps.org/pix/prec4.html 
Stormchaser
05 August 2013 19:29:18

No heat, nothing exceptionally chilly either, nor is there much rain or wind. Aside from the chance of some convective fun at times, things are looking rather uninteresting overall... just have to keep looking out for any mesoscale features to track. Often at this time of year I can turn to the Tropical Atlantic and find something interesting there, but at the moment it's very quiet there as well!  It's expected to wake up in 8-10 days time, so maybe then our weather will be shaken up too


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GIBBY
05 August 2013 19:36:59

Good evening folks. Here is the report on the 12 noon outputs from GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for today Monday August 5th 2013.


The General Situation. A complex Low pressure area over the UK will clear away NE overnight leaving a weak ridge of High pressure to develop over the UK tomorrow. The weather will be dry and clear after the clearance of rain and showers tonight and bright and largely dry tomorrow apart from the odd shower. Through Wednesday and Thursday the weather will be set fair, still with the chance of a shower, perhaps heavy on Wednesday. By Friday the weather will slide downhill briefly with a front bringing some rain East across the UK on through the day with Saturday returning to dry and fine weather in the South when it will become quite warm in light winds.


GFS then shows a trough sliding ESE over the UK on Friday introducing NW winds and showers to start the new week with the showers chiefly in the North and East and rather cooler conditions for all. Then through the latter stages of the week the weather becomes more organised unsettled with rain and showers in association with Low pressure to the North but some drier and brighter conditions likely for all too as brief ridges pass by.


The GFS Ensembles tonight show a disappointing run with regard to temperature with average conditions at best shown by most members. Rainfall looks reasonably small in amount for the South while the North sees more copious rain at times under influence of Atlantic Low pressure to the North.


The Jet Stream shows the flow remaining in the vicinity of the UK over the next few weeks. It will be in an undulating form over Week 1 before settling into a more direct West to East flow over the UK for Week 2.


UKMO tonight shows Low pressure tumbling down from the NW on Sunday with a band of rain Saturday night followed by sunshine and heavy showers for Sunday.


GEM shows a front crossing SE over the UK on Sunday with some rain follwoed by bright weather under NW winds and scattered showers most likely for the North and NW. it would become cooler and fresher everywhere.


NAVGEM tonight keeps a High pressure ridge close to the South throughout the latter stages of it's run tonight with a spell of light rain on Sunday quickly being replaced by bright and dry weather with any rain restricted to more Northern parts of the UK. Temperatures look to be comfortable for many, perhaps bordering rather warm at times in the South.


ECM tonight is not too bad for the South with the Sunday rain clearing away to leave Southern areas at least with a fine few days with sunny spells and comfortably warm conditions if never overly warm. The North looks like staying rather breezier, cooler and more unsettled with some showers or rain at times. By the end of the run though things do turn more generally disturbed as Low pressure trundles in from the WNW with rain and windier weather for all with average at best temperatures.


In Summary the models tonight aren't too bad overall with High pressure relatively close to the South or SW with the South at least reaping the benefits of this with pleasantly dry and  fine conditions with some warm sunshine at times and only very occasional rain. Further North there looks to be more in the way of cooler and more unsettled conditions with rain at times with a trend towards this spreading more generally across the UK from around 10 days time


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Polar Low
05 August 2013 19:40:12

seems to be moving in the direction of the 500 should be ok ish as long as it does not dig to far south.


 http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/ECMWF_0z/hgtcomp.html

Polar Low
05 August 2013 19:55:25

Thanks Martin

Polar Low
05 August 2013 20:08:19

very intresting fax charts at mo how that low gets pushed out of the way to our s/w


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Hungry Tiger
05 August 2013 20:45:47

Well - its not terrible.


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GIBBY
05 August 2013 21:12:20

Nothing too worrying from the ECM 240 mean


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2401.gif


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Hungry Tiger
05 August 2013 21:18:54

Originally Posted by: GIBBY 


Nothing too worrying from the ECM 240 mean


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2401.gif




That's good to know - Indeed I think this August will be OK for most of us - Yes it rained heavily in my part of the country this late afternoon - but I got a max of 26C.


I wasn;t fussed about that.


 


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Steve Murr
05 August 2013 21:53:43

I hate to say it- but I think summers on the way out- that is the glorious weather we have experienced in July-


 


I think the August 500 heights will NOT be dominated by heights to the SW - but a return to a more flow in the west to NW quarter-


 


Probably average, maybe slightly above, but i get the feeling were on the way down now :(

Steam Fog
05 August 2013 22:03:16
Originally Posted by: Steve Murr 

I hate to say it- but I think summers on the way out- that is the glorious weather we have experienced in July-


 


I think the August 500 heights will NOT be dominated by heights to the SW - but a return to a more flow in the west to NW quarter-


 


Probably average, maybe slightly above, but i get the feeling were on the way down now :(



Pulling the old "summer's over chain" on 5th August? Mind you better than those who kept yanking it all through May. As ever for anything much over a week. Could be right. Could be wrong.
Hendon Snowman
05 August 2013 22:03:33

Originally Posted by: Steve Murr 


I hate to say it- but I think summers on the way out- that is the glorious weather we have experienced in July-


 


I think the August 500 heights will NOT be dominated by heights to the SW - but a return to a more flow in the west to NW quarter-


 


Probably average, maybe slightly above, but i get the feeling were on the way down now :(



 


Oh no we need a last bite of the cherry must be a chance the heat will pay another visit in about a week and a half i think (hope) just cant see it in the models yet.  Azores High could be the clue

Medlock Vale Weather
05 August 2013 22:05:28

Steve's in the house, that can only mean one thing Altnaharra will get a frost tonight and Summer is over for the rest of us! 


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Steam Fog
05 August 2013 22:20:43
Actually (and no offence meant) but I don't really see how you can "summer's on the way out" and then suggest we are going to have average or just above average temperatures for August?

Maybe the abnormally hot and prolonged sunny weather of July might not (at present) look like being repeated, but pleasantly summery weather (ie average for the UK in August) appears to be on the cards. : )
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05 August 2013 22:52:32
Originally Posted by: Steve Murr 

I hate to say it- but I think summers on the way out- that is the glorious weather we have experienced in July-


 


I think the August 500 heights will NOT be dominated by heights to the SW - but a return to a more flow in the west to NW quarter-


 


Probably average, maybe slightly above, but i get the feeling were on the way down now :(



If this coming week had happened last year we'd be on the up. Don't mistake a change in pattern with a change in season. It's still very much summer. It's August the 5th! 😂

The rest of this week looks pretty damn decent for a fair few. Beyond that I don't even look as it is rather pointless.
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