Gavin P
16 August 2013 12:15:46

Hi all,


Here's todays video update;


A Changeable September;


http://www.gavsweathervids.com/


Looks like "mixed" month to me with the most settled conditions probably early on.


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Rob K
16 August 2013 13:31:11

Originally Posted by: soperman 


Is it just me or does anyone else view the ECM output as far from settled after Tuesday??  Probably my poor interpretation of the model but certainly different from the outher output. I note the press are ramping up a bank holiday scorcher but I think a  will be necessary if the ECM is accurate.


 


Hope I am wrong



Yes ECM looks warm, humid and thundery to me especially in the SW


 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2401.gif


 


GFS doesn't convince me - I'm not sure we're on for any repeat of July, but ALIWBC (At Least It Won't Be Cold) 


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David M Porter
16 August 2013 14:02:29

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Originally Posted by: soperman 


Is it just me or does anyone else view the ECM output as far from settled after Tuesday??  Probably my poor interpretation of the model but certainly different from the outher output. I note the press are ramping up a bank holiday scorcher but I think a  will be necessary if the ECM is accurate.


 


Hope I am wrong



Yes ECM looks warm, humid and thundery to me especially in the SW


 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2401.gif


 


GFS doesn't convince me - I'm not sure we're on for any repeat of July, but ALIWBC (At Least It Won't Be Cold) 



Interestingly, the UKMO and GFS 00z runs both look similar to each other at 144hrs in terms of having the HP positioned over the eastern side of Britain, although GFS shows it to be a little bit stronger than UKMO, ECM on the other hand has it positioned more towards the west of the UK and then gradually moving eastwards with time, with pressure also falling a little to the SW at the end of the run.


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Gooner
16 August 2013 15:48:29

GFS has the BH weekend as a scorcher , interesting if the 12z continues this theme


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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Gooner
16 August 2013 18:01:57

12z from GFS gives us a cooler BH weekend


still warm though


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Rob K
16 August 2013 18:02:20
I think this "settled spell" is falling apart before it's even begun.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2761.png 
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Hendon Snowman
16 August 2013 18:08:45
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2761.png 


 


 


Hopefully a massive outlier LOL  

Gooner
16 August 2013 18:45:18

Originally Posted by: Hendon Snowman 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2761.png 


 


 


Hopefully a massive outlier LOL  



Does look to be a bit of a change , was hoping for one last BBQ weekend


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Ally Pally Snowman
16 August 2013 18:46:36

ECM soon breaks it down, staying warm but not much of a settled spell.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1441.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1681.html


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Ally Pally Snowman
16 August 2013 18:56:13

ECM hangs in there temps in high 20s for the South.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1921.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2161.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2401.html


 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
nickl
16 August 2013 19:11:05

anyone notice the similarity with first week august as trough becomes cut off over france whilst pressure builds over the top ?

Gooner
16 August 2013 19:17:56

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


ECM hangs in there temps in high 20s for the South.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1921.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2161.html


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2401.html


 



Still might be a decent BH though


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


GIBBY
16 August 2013 19:56:52

Good evening. Here is the report on the 12 noon output from the big 5 tonight for today Friday August 16th 2013.


All models show a brief ridge of High pressure crossing the UK ahead of a set of fronts associated to a deep Low to the NW of the British Isles tomorrow. This crosses East to the North of Scotland over the weekend with spells of rain followed by showers for all. By Monday High pressure will be building towards the South and East of the UK while the North and West maintain cloudy weather at times with further occasional rain accentuated by the passage of a further small Low moving NE across the NW while filling rapidly.


GFS squeezes the life out of this feature settling the weather down over the UK as a whole with warm or very warm conditions developing for all by the latter stages of the week. The weather does look as though the chance of a few thundery showers grow by next weekend across the South before cooler and more unsettled conditions show signs of returning from the NW at times over the second half of the run.


The GFS Ensembles show a fine and warm period coming up with most members showing uppers well above average as the High moves up from the SW next week. Even in the North the weather will improve with time with plenty of warm members here too while temperatures are well above average here too.


The Jet Stream shows the flow migrating further North as we move through next week, a pattern that more or less is maintained even towards the outer reaches of reality.


UKMO tonight shows High pressure well established over the UK by next Thursday with fine, sunny and very warm conditions to be enjoyed for most if not all areas later next week and earlier in the South.


GEM still shows a rather shorter spell of warm weather as it quickly allows High pressure to recede away East late next week at the expense of a trough moving in from the West and setting up a cut off cool pool close to SW Britain late in the run with rain or thundery showers as a result towards these regions.


NAVGEM is looking reasonably good tonight with High pressure dominating the weather through next week. There is a phase around midweek when despite High pressure the weather may be just fair but by the end of the week all areas look like becoming warm and sunny.


ECM is a little between and betwixt this evening as it's the spoiler Low on Tuesday which tends to dilute the extent of the push of High pressure from the SW. There seems more of a slack pressure pattern with a puddle of cool uppers aloft which could set off a few showers in the warm or very warm conditions experienced at the surface. By the end of the run High pressure is maintained via a tenuous ridge across the UK. Some thundery showers could be experienced in the South leading up to the weekend before the toppling ridge on Day 10 holds the weather fine, dry and reasonably warm elsewhere before and to all areas at the end of the run.


In Summary there is a little indecision between the outputs tonight. There are some cracks appearing in the High pressure based pattern tonight which don't indicate a flawed outlook other than there may be more moisture injected aloft which could give rise to a few showers in among the very warm and suuny spells. This is mostly caused by the small Low moving NE across the NW early next week against rising pressure, the cold pool of which could get caught in the air above the UK. Longer term as always there are various ways the fine and warm spell could end, all feasible but there is equal chance that we could hold on to fine and warm conditions right out into September. 


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Stormchaser
16 August 2013 19:57:45

It's like early August but with stronger HP modelled and less energy to the south.


I'm hoping that the HP to the NE proves resilliant this time, as I've not seen that many late August easterlies that I can remember.


The way GFS just melts those higher heights to the NE away in early FI seems suspicous as usual. Although an Atlantic incursion of some sorts has for some time looked possible during the closing days of the month, it hasn't looked to be via a major trough ploughing east into Scandinavia - more a weaker feature from the W or SW.


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David M Porter
16 August 2013 20:24:58

Originally Posted by: GIBBY 


Good evening. Here is the report on the 12 noon output from the big 5 tonight for today Friday August 16th 2013.


All models show a brief ridge of High pressure crossing the UK ahead of a set of fronts associated to a deep Low to the NW of the British Isles tomorrow. This crosses East to the North of Scotland over the weekend with spells of rain followed by showers for all. By Monday High pressure will be building towards the South and East of the UK while the North and West maintain cloudy weather at times with further occasional rain accentuated by the passage of a further small Low moving NE across the NW while filling rapidly.


GFS squeezes the life out of this feature settling the weather down over the UK as a whole with warm or very warm conditions developing for all by the latter stages of the week. The weather does look as though the chance of a few thundery showers grow by next weekend across the South before cooler and more unsettled conditions show signs of returning from the NW at times over the second half of the run.


The GFS Ensembles show a fine and warm period coming up with most members showing uppers well above average as the High moves up from the SW next week. Even in the North the weather will improve with time with plenty of warm members here too while temperatures are well above average here too.


The Jet Stream shows the flow migrating further North as we move through next week, a pattern that more or less is maintained even towards the outer reaches of reality.


UKMO tonight shows High pressure well established over the UK by next Thursday with fine, sunny and very warm conditions to be enjoyed for most if not all areas later next week and earlier in the South.


GEM still shows a rather shorter spell of warm weather as it quickly allows High pressure to recede away East late next week at the expense of a trough moving in from the West and setting up a cut off cool pool close to SW Britain late in the run with rain or thundery showers as a result towards these regions.


NAVGEM is looking reasonably good tonight with High pressure dominating the weather through next week. There is a phase around midweek when despite High pressure the weather may be just fair but by the end of the week all areas look like becoming warm and sunny.


ECM is a little between and betwixt this evening as it's the spoiler Low on Tuesday which tends to dilute the extent of the push of High pressure from the SW. There seems more of a slack pressure pattern with a puddle of cool uppers aloft which could set off a few showers in the warm or very warm conditions experienced at the surface. By the end of the run High pressure is maintained via a tenuous ridge across the UK. Some thundery showers could be experienced in the South leading up to the weekend before the toppling ridge on Day 10 holds the weather fine, dry and reasonably warm elsewhere before and to all areas at the end of the run.


In Summary there is a little indecision between the outputs tonight. There are some cracks appearing in the High pressure based pattern tonight which don't indicate a flawed outlook other than there may be more moisture injected aloft which could give rise to a few showers in among the very warm and suuny spells. This is mostly caused by the small Low moving NE across the NW early next week against rising pressure, the cold pool of which could get caught in the air above the UK. Longer term as always there are various ways the fine and warm spell could end, all feasible but there is equal chance that we could hold on to fine and warm conditions right out into September. 



Thanks as always Martin.


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