Yes, I'm noticing the nights starting to draw in now too. I always feel a wave of sadness when I start to notice it, knowing that the best days of summer are behind us and the descent into that horrible teatime darkness is gathering pace. Once summer is over, the only delights for me until spring are the autumn colours and Christmas.

The big difference this year is that this "summer" appears to have ended at around the time of the summer solstice going by what our actual weather has been like.

Until then, we were actually doing really well for decent summer weather, but's it's a completely different story now and I can't wait to see the back of this so-called "summer" now.
 

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The big difference this year is that this "summer" appears to have ended at around the time of the summer solstice going by what our actual weather has been like.

Until then, we were actually doing really well for decent summer weather, but's it's a completely different story now and I can't wait to see the back of this so-called "summer" now.
 

I'm sure summer will be back in September, lol. It seems to be a common trend that when summer itself is poor, September tends to revert to warm and dry.

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I struggle just as much with "normal" people.

Up at 4, in bed at 7. Works fine for me and I never need an alarm clock.

That's 9 hours in bed 😮

I tend to go to bed between 00.30 and 01.30.

Out of bed 07.30.

I love sleep, but it does get in the way of doing other stuff.

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Yes, I'm noticing the nights starting to draw in now too. I always feel a wave of sadness when I start to notice it, knowing that the best days of summer are behind us and the descent into that horrible teatime darkness is gathering pace. Once summer is over, the only delights for me until spring are the autumn colours and Christmas.

I really do hope we see some serious warmth in Sept and October as it been 12 years since October had seen decent warm temps so as to keep the heating off.  My main interest is the new French doors which had installed on 6th July had now kept the room temps 22.5 to 24C at day to 20.5 to 21.5 at nights constantly despite outside cold at times.  Was always 19C to 20.5 to 21C before. Today was 22.5c despite cloudy but to stand by the door you can still feel the warmth emitting inside like in the car get warm even overcast skies.   I will see how it respond the room temps come Sept and October when the sun goes much lower and shine inside much more to keep us warm and heating off hopefully.    I remember my old school classrooms with large windows used to get to 25-30C in winter from low sun direct sunlight that at times we felt hot with our jumpers on while in summer little effects due to little sunlight inside when sun position are higher up unless a heatwave make it hot.

That's 9 hours in bed 😮

It is indeed - I read a fair bit before sleeping (takes me a little while to drop off after that too), then get my 8 hours worth of sleep, often with a pee break in the middle, as I'm middle-aged. I seldom have trouble sleeping, other than if it's hot or noisy outside  - which is why I don't like summer much, you don't get those problems from mid-September through to April.

I learnt at an early age that it's best to follow your body clock if possible, rather than force yourself into fitting in! You feel much more rested overnight and alert during the day as a result, even if people think you're weird. And it's taken the best part of 40 years to realise my dad was right - who cares what other people think? It really doesn't matter, which is why I don't care these days if people know I go to bed so early! Everyone else is missing the best part of the day, the quiet early hours when there's no noise, nobody around.

I love sleep, but it does get in the way of doing other stuff.

It's well worth it - lowers dementia risk too, amongst other things.

People who slept six hours or less per night in their 50s and 60s were more likely to develop dementia later in life. 
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lack-sleep-middle-age-may-increase-dementia-risk 

I guess I feel the same way about sitting in traffic jams, or pointless meetings... even commuting itself is time you'll never get back.

 

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I remember my old school classrooms with large windows used to get to 25-30C in winter from low sun direct sunlight that at times we felt hot with our jumpers on while in summer little effects due to little sunlight inside when sun position are higher up unless a heatwave make it hot.

Working as I do in a school, which still has those old fashioned classrooms, I can tell you the sun in winter won't have much of a heating effect! The school boiler and radiators, on the other hand, certainly do.

(And in the summer, those same classrooms are stifling with the heat. Doesn't help that the windows only open an inch or so too, as the school doesn't want people chucking things - or themselves! - out of the windows. Apparently there's no actual rule to say they have to be restricted, but they do it anyway as it's common sense).

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I'm sure summer will be back in September, lol. It seems to be a common trend that when summer itself is poor, September tends to revert to warm and dry.

That wouldn't surprise me one single bit, but it's just a shame that it will be too late by then in my books, as that is when I will then just be wanting to get on with autumn.
 

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Monstrously vile rubbish to round off another complete disaster of summer month. Another write-off day allowing no opportunity for outdoor exercise whatsoever 🤬

Rain set in before lunchtime and instead of rapidly passing through to give a few mm as would have happened in the past it gets stuck under a poisonous easterly flow and just sits there allowing ludicrous totals to rack up hour after hour 🤮

Pressure for this month finished on 1005.1mb making it the second lowest pressure for July since at least 1866 with only 1931 lower on 1004.9mb. It rained practically every single day. Even on days when nothing was recorded there was irritating drizzle or light showers that weren't enough to cause a tip 🤮

How the hell can this garbage go on month after month? The 12-month rolling total now stands at close to 1040mm - 40% above average- with potentially a further month where it could increase. Not that last August was particularly dry - only slightly below average. Properly dry Julys and Augusts, like what we used to get during the 20th Century, have become non-existent 😱

It wouldn't surprise me the way this year is going if it continued to rise in the autumn. It would take some going for last years ludicrous totals to be beaten but given what's been vomitted out so far this year nothing seems to be beyond the bounds of credulity any more 🤢

 

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Working as I do in a school, which still has those old fashioned classrooms, I can tell you the sun in winter won't have much of a heating effect! The school boiler and radiators, on the other hand, certainly do.

(And in the summer, those same classrooms are stifling with the heat. Doesn't help that the windows only open an inch or so too, as the school doesn't want people chucking things - or themselves! - out of the windows. Apparently there's no actual rule to say they have to be restricted, but they do it anyway as it's common sense).

There was 2 window opening and 2 small ones at the top that hard to reach to open it but in summer it get really hot so sometimes we take class outside in the shade under the trees during lessons.   My bedroom on the last year before I left boarding school get pretty warm because my room is the only one with 2 windows, east and south so get most of the sun, other room only have 1 window.  

I remember once you stayed up late to view the 18z during the event of the big freeze on the way which good for your area that time.

Yet another morning of unrelenting rain and another example of summer rain on an easterly having no trouble at all making it across the Pennines. A similar snow sceanario in winter would have it breaking up & fizzlingout by the time it reaches here, just like it did in early March. Seriously, why is this? Is it just the higher potential moisture content means the air doesn't dry out to the same extent on the lee side of the hills or that there is solar heating causing a convective element that clearly wouldn't happen in winter?

Things are pretty bad though that I'm now moaning about winter weather in the summer moaning thread 🙂

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Hammering down with rain today, so grey and gloomy, like winter. 
28mm already and coming down fast. 
Cool in the house as well at under 19c. 

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Hammering down with rain today, so grey and gloomy, like winter. 
28mm already and coming down fast. 
Cool in the house as well at under 19c. 

Yes, these are really perfect "if only it were winter" synoptics which were playing out just now and with this latest low pressure system moving crossing the UK, it is interesting to see how much snow might have been dumped on its northern flank had this actually been the middle of winter just now.

Given the long sea track of those NE winds which we're experiencing just now, I'm not so sure that this would have delivered any snow right here on the east coast in that scenario (we might well have just got cold rain), but I could have imagined places not too inland such as where Jerry is in the south of Edinburgh getting a good dumping of snow in that scenario.

In top of that, we then have a cold, northerly blast from the Arctic coming up in a day or so's time as this low pressure system pulls away eastwards.

You really couldn't make that up just now. Someone has clearly forgotten to tell the weather gods that we are in what is supposed to be high "summer" just now and not the middle of winter. Furthermore, what's the betting that these "if only it were winter synoptics" will have long gone and be nowhere to be seen, but the time that we actually get to next winter?
 

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I'm only just settling down after tea at 9pm. I really struggle to get your timetable.

I often don't start dinner until after 9pm. 
When you have kids, if you want any kind of time to relax in the evening at all you can't go to bed until 11 at the earliest!

Anyway, back to moaning - I was down in Devon over the weekend and the weather was fairly rubbish. Lots of rain of the horizontal soaking drizzle variety, and pretty windy. However we did also have some sunny spells which felt pretty warm, and the sea was incredibly warm. Around 17.5C - even for a confirmed cold-water wimp like me it was rather pleasant.

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Displeaseing start to the last month of Summer. The weather is matching my town name of Peasedown....

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Indeed it is Art. Just back from Weymouth and there are well dressed people and badly dressed people.
Wearing nothing more than a Tee shirt and shorts in the penetrating rain with gale force winds even at 16C is surely a recipe for hypothermia.

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GFS showing highs of 10C (!!) in parts of the CET zone on Saturday. If that comes off it must surely be a record low maximum for August, especially the first week of August which is statistically the warmest time of year (alongside the last week of July). 

We are getting close to this summer being the worst I’ve ever experienced locally. 2012 never had weather as bad as what’s being forecast during high summer - the worst summer weather then occurred in June. 

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Yes, it's looking like yet another diabolical weekend on the way. I don't think we've had a particularly fantastic one since June. GFS suggesting low double figures on Saturday, which would surely be near record breaking for early August.

This summer has totally crashed and burned after a flying start in June.

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GFS showing highs of 10C (!!) in parts of the CET zone on Saturday. If that comes off it must surely be a record low maximum for August, especially the first week of August which is statistically the warmest time of year (alongside the last week of July). 

We are getting close to this summer being the worst I’ve ever experienced locally. 2012 never had weather as bad as what’s being forecast during high summer - the worst summer weather then occurred in June. 

Certainly the last few weeks have been appalling but June was stunningly good imho 

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Certainly the last few weeks have been appalling but June was stunningly good imho 

the first half of June was dominated by easterly winds and often low cloud, that’s why I wasn’t really impressed. It was a good month overall though. 

May was quite nice too.  

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GFS showing highs of 10C (!!) in parts of the CET zone on Saturday. If that comes off it must surely be a record low maximum for August, especially the first week of August which is statistically the warmest time of year (alongside the last week of July). 

We are getting close to this summer being the worst I’ve ever experienced locally. 2012 never had weather as bad as what’s being forecast during high summer - the worst summer weather then occurred in June. 

They going for 14C in my area on Saturday so today outside was 21C which is 2C near to the early August average of 23C before get to 22C midmonth then 21C last 3rd of the month.  Using today warmth helped indoor temps to 23.5 to shore up warmth as much as possible to survive the cold weather on Saturday.  Don't care about Saturday Low, very boring and no interest with it because it bog standard and same thing all year around.  I get serious excited with proper storms abroad but not here since the past proper storms we used to get.