johncs2016
26 July 2023 19:39:36
Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 

The absolute STATE of the current radar. 

The one bit of comfort in this terrible spell - it’s absolutely sh*te everywhere, including the SE.

If only I lived with Richard in Aberdeen. 

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Unlike two of the most recent low pressure systems, this one isn't going to miss us to our south and so, that is on its way here very soon.

If there's any consolation though, the next report from SEPA regarding water scarcity here in Scotland (that is due on Friday) should at least be a bit better as a result.
 
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Retron
27 July 2023 03:38:49
Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 

The absolute STATE of the current radar. 

The one bit of comfort in this terrible spell - it’s absolutely sh*te everywhere, including the SE.


It was sh*te, as you put it, before that rain started. Some numbnuts a few houses up the road decided to play cruddy loud "oonts, oonts, oonts" music in their garden (I could hear it quite clearly with earplugs in, new double glazed windows shut and wrapped up in a summer quilt at 8 PM last night). Then it started to rain, and they had to shut up - such a shame! 😂Funny how people who like crap music seem so keen to share it with everyone - and it's unusual to hear it in my area, as it's mostly retirees.

The rain couldn't have arrived at a better time. Not only was it a decent amount all in (2/3rds of an inch), it fell overnight, so will have been able to soak into the ground. I've been having to water the garden daily despite the odd shower, but won't have to do it today at least. I'm hopeful the cracks which have been appearing in the garden will have filled in a bit too.



 
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Roger Parsons
27 July 2023 05:07:00
Unhappy farmers here. Bad timing for OSR.
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Bolty
27 July 2023 06:14:21
What a rancid morning. Foggy and drizzly and not properly light even at 07:00. You'd be forgiven for thinking it was an October morning..

Surely a dry, sunny 21°C day in late July can't be too much to ask for. Right?
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Jiries
27 July 2023 07:46:02
Originally Posted by: Bolty 

What a rancid morning. Foggy and drizzly and not properly light even at 07:00. You'd be forgiven for thinking it was an October morning..

Surely a dry, sunny 21°C day in late July can't be too much to ask for. Right?



It sunny here at the moment and feel very warm factor despite today and tomorrow will reach average temps before nose  dive again.  Lucky my new French doors is keeping indoors warmer than before under old window. Always 20.5C minimum to 23C compare to 19C to 21C before in cold summer period. 
Rob K
27 July 2023 10:46:07
Originally Posted by: Tim A 

That would have been more appropriate given the conditions🙂
Saw stories of a few campsite flooding disasters in the Dales over the weekend. 

 


Fortunately the campsite wasn't flooded but it was pretty churned up by the time the cars had wheelspun their way out.

We were in Swaledale (Fremington, near Reeth). At the same event, Ard Rock, that got flooded out and cancelled in 2019: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Yorkshire_Dales_floods 
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Tim A
27 July 2023 11:43:51
Originally Posted by: Bolty 

What a rancid morning. Foggy and drizzly and not properly light even at 07:00. You'd be forgiven for thinking it was an October morning..

Surely a dry, sunny 21°C day in late July can't be too much to ask for. Right?



Pretty decent above par day here (if you go by stats), no rain during daylight hours, temp climbing above 21c (1c above average already) and some good sunshine. A tad windier than you would hope for though. 
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LeedsLad123
27 July 2023 12:05:42
It’s not too bad this side of the Pennines today, though it is cloudy now after sunny spells earlier. High was 21.7C so nothing special, but it is rather humid. 
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Jiries
27 July 2023 14:04:58
Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 

It’s not too bad this side of the Pennines today, though it is cloudy now after sunny spells earlier. High was 21.7C so nothing special, but it is rather humid. 



23C here and my car show 24C.  That feel very warm after very cold weather lately. despite 23.C is a high summer peak average for here.  

I managed to open all the air vents and one French door open to let the warm here inside. 
richardabdn
27 July 2023 16:42:50
One decent day yesterday, which was the sunniest day of the month, but could only manage a below par max of 17.4C. What's even more ridiculous is that's the warmest it's got for the past 10 days r🙄

Not one year of the 1960s failed to exceed 17.5C during the same period. Not one. Not even July 1965 which was the coldest July on record by some margin, nor the horribly grim July 1962. This era of seasonless tripe is truly beyond desperate 🤢

Worse still, after yesterday's September like sunshine, today turned out to be the worst yet. Hard to believe it could get much worse than the previous two weeks but todays completely sunless gloom with near constant drizzle, a max of 15C and diabolical 2C temperature range since midnight managed it with ease.

The warmer, sunnier first third of the month, which I wasn't here for, saves it from being as bad as almost everything between 2007 and 2012 but the rest of the month has been on a par with the worse of that execrable era. This is now into the third week I've been back and there has been zero summerlike weather. A few days which would be considered good for late September. The rest utter garbage typical of bad October 👎

EDIT: As I was typing this, the misty murk has just rolled in to ensure today completes the vile weather Bingo card. Just brilliant. Another day that is a complete write-off for any sort of outdoor exercise 🤮
 
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tallyho_83
28 July 2023 01:46:55
Originally Posted by: richardabdn 

One decent day yesterday, which was the sunniest day of the month, but could only manage a below par max of 17.4C. What's even more ridiculous is that's the warmest it's got for the past 10 days r🙄

Not one year of the 1960s failed to exceed 17.5C during the same period. Not one. Not even July 1965 which was the coldest July on record by some margin, nor the horribly grim July 1962. This era of seasonless tripe is truly beyond desperate 🤢

Worse still, after yesterday's September like sunshine, today turned out to be the worst yet. Hard to believe it could get much worse than the previous two weeks but todays completely sunless gloom with near constant drizzle, a max of 15C and diabolical 2C temperature range since midnight managed it with ease.

The warmer, sunnier first third of the month, which I wasn't here for, saves it from being as bad as almost everything between 2007 and 2012 but the rest of the month has been on a par with the worse of that execrable era. This is now into the third week I've been back and there has been zero summerlike weather. A few days which would be considered good for late September. The rest utter garbage typical of bad October 👎

EDIT: As I was typing this, the misty murk has just rolled in to ensure today completes the vile weather Bingo card. Just brilliant. Another day that is a complete write-off for any sort of outdoor exercise 🤮
 



Hi Richard

Havent' logged on for a while due to family issues and then caught covid-19 again and then recovered fine then went back to work and gigged and then caught Norovirus a day or so later!

(It never rains - it pours!) Pun intended because the past few weeks have been dreadful here in SW - also having to mow the lawn more often but on the plus side at least night's are not as muggy or hot, but could do with wearing my sunglasses and miss going to beach!

complete contrast to last year and summers of recent years when we had some heat waves - I don't think we have had a heatwave this summer given we are over half way through and the next week at least is looking unsettled and general average or cooler than average? We have had warmer spells esp in June but generally they are not considered heat waves of +35c or more which is what we are use to in recent years. 

Anyway, saw your post and it cheered me up when I felt down.

Keep up the rants Richard.

Hope all is well on here!



 
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tallyho_83
28 July 2023 01:50:34
What's also annoying are spits of drizzly rain and mist in summer - Yuck* Reminds me of Vancouvers climate too much although they have had it good over there but overcast days are very depressing of late. I am pleased nights are not so humid and hot like previous summers but would rather a thundery breakdown than these annoying drizzly rain bands coming and going and not being able to dry clothes outside and ruining garden parties and weddings etc! argh!
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28 July 2023 06:29:42
One of the advantages of this summer is that I can go to the beach in the evening and not have the issue of avoiding couples of all sexes mating on the strand. I guess the fragrant seaweed middens complete with seaweed flies and sand hoppers help in this respect too. But the murky water sometimes makes fishing a problem though I can easily achieve my 6000+ steps and do some beach combing too.

The Garden which as true gardeners will appreciate, loves this damp, humid weather. A basic Mediterranean style plot with a few pelargoniums in pots doesn’t quite cut the mustard for me. The shorter evenings now mean that my soft lighting and trickling fountain makes the courtyard a pleasant place to sit with suitable refreshment if I’m not on the beach or when I return home. 
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johncs2016
28 July 2023 07:20:16
Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

Hi Richard

Havent' logged on for a while due to family issues and then caught covid-19 again and then recovered fine then went back to work and gigged and then caught Norovirus a day or so later!

(It never rains - it pours!) Pun intended because the past few weeks have been dreadful here in SW - also having to mow the lawn more often but on the plus side at least night's are not as muggy or hot, but could do with wearing my sunglasses and miss going to beach!

complete contrast to last year and summers of recent years when we had some heat waves - I don't think we have had a heatwave this summer given we are over half way through and the next week at least is looking unsettled and general average or cooler than average? We have had warmer spells esp in June but generally they are not considered heat waves of +35c or more which is what we are use to in recent years. 

Anyway, saw your post and it cheered me up when I felt down.

Keep up the rants Richard.

Hope all is well on here!



 



Hi Sean

First of all, I'm so sorry to have heard about your various health problems and other issues.

Here on TWO, there are a bunch of users who usually only log on here during the winter which is the busiest time of the year on here. In addition to that, I know that you are normally more of a winter person than a summer person, so I was thinking that this was the reason for your recent lack of inactivity on here.

Not that this matters in any way of course, but I hope that you are now fully on the mend and that we will continue to hear more from you in due course.

Here in Edinburgh, this summer has been very much the polar opposite to what last winter was like. Last winter, we had our coldest December since 2010 with two back to back official ice days which were actually our first ice days since 2010, to have occurred during December. We then had another cold spell back in January although this wasn't as intense as the one which we had last December, and there were no ice official days which came with that.

We also got some snow with those really cold spells. Rather disappointingly, this didn't amount to much at any time, but what snow we did get went on to last for quite a while due to the really cold temperatures at that time.

Sadly though, February was a much milder and completely snowless month (just like February 2011 which was also really mild after that particular winter had started off with the December to remember back in 2010). That was therefore, a classic example of  front-loaded summer with just about all of the cold weather happening earlier on.

As far as our summers are concerned, we had two back to back decent summers in 2021 and 2022. The summer of 2021 was just a warm and pleasant summer with very little in the way of intense heat, although August 2021 was a rather poor month. Last summer was hot and sunny throughout, even during last August and of course, I haven't forgotten that it was during last July that the temperature got to above 30°C at all three of my local stations here in Edinburgh for only the first ever time in my lifetime, and on two successive back to back days as well.

I was down in Hawick at the time (which is in the Scottish Borders) and I ended sweltering in temperatures of around 35°C on what was actually the hottest day on record down there. In addition to that, this summer also started off on a really decent note but with the high pressure being centred to our north a lot of the time, it took a while for this summer to actually get going thanks to cool winds coming in from the North Sea.

Later on in June whilst I was down in Hawick, we had a massive thunderstorm which delivered 35 mm of rain in one fowl swoop. The weather then turned a bit cooler and fresher and although we continued to have the odd hot day during the following month, that hot and sunny weather which we had beforehand, never really came back to the same extent.

That has been culminated in what has been a very poor July which now looks as though it will end up being wetter than average, although it's not actually been as wet here during this month as it has been elsewhere due to a least a couple of low pressure systems slipping away to our south and completely missing here altogether.

When you add all of that together, this is shaping to be a classic front-loaded summer with most of the hot and sunny weather happening early on but in order for this summer to be the exact polar opposite of last winter, we needed to get another hot and sunny spell during this month, albeit one which wasn't quite as intense as the one which we had during June.

That hasn't really happened though. Because of the those cool winds from off the North Sea during June which haven't been present during this month to the same extent, it is during this month that we had our hottest day of this year so far. However, even that was a day which went more downhill over time with rain and cooler temperatures eventually setting in and as it stands, it is now looking likely that the temperature here in Edinburgh is going to fail to reach 80°F at any time for the second year out of the last three years.

That is a far cry from last year's 30+°C temperatures although in this modern era where climate change has been such a major headline, I probably wouldn't want it to be too hot. Nevertheless, this is looking like being a cooler than average month here and there has been quite a few "if only it were winter" synoptics which have been in place for quite a lot of the time (some of the models are even pointing towards the possibility of the type of northerly blast at the start of August which at other times of the year (and not just in winter, either) would be delivering snow to quite a number of areas, especially in the north of Scotland and even down to lower levels as well.

That is not exactly the charts which you want to be seeing in high summer when we are looking for some hot and sunny weather. For that, we need the Azores High to be building in towards the UK. Sadly though, the Azores High has been posted missing in recent times, although it wouldn't surprise me if it came back less than six months from now to ruin yet another winter.

If there's any consolation though, we started off this summer with a lot of concerns about water scarcity due to the ongoing lack of rainfall at that time. The wet weather during this month has alleviated those concerns quite a lot which has been enough for most of Scotland have returned to normal on that front, so water shortages are at least something which we don't have to worry about for now. Because it hasn't been as wet here though as it has been elsewhere, we are still currently at alert status as regards to water scarcity, according to SEPA.

What I found interesting is that another user who lives in Cornwall (which is not all that far from where you are) mentioned that there was actually still a hosepipe ban in place there, but this was a few weeks ago and so, that hosepipe ban might well have been lifted since then.
 
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doctormog
28 July 2023 07:30:33
The hosepipe ban is still in place in Cornwall and (extended recently to include) parts of Devon. https://www.southwestwater.co.uk/environment/water-resources/hosepipeban/ 

I’m hoping the low cloud will clear here to give a nice day in due course.
tallyho_83
28 July 2023 09:49:18
Originally Posted by: johncs2016 

Hi Sean

First of all, I'm so sorry to have heard about your various health problems and other issues.

Here on TWO, there are a bunch of users who usually only log on here during the winter which is the busiest time of the year on here. In addition to that, I know that you are normally more of a winter person than a summer person, so I was thinking that this was the reason for your recent lack of inactivity on here.

Not that this matters in any way of course, but I hope that you are now fully on the mend and that we will continue to hear more from you in due course.

Here in Edinburgh, this summer has been very much the polar opposite to what last winter was like. Last winter, we had our coldest December since 2010 with two back to back official ice days which were actually our first ice days since 2010, to have occurred during December. We then had another cold spell back in January although this wasn't as intense as the one which we had last December, and there were no ice official days which came with that.

We also got some snow with those really cold spells. Rather disappointingly, this didn't amount to much at any time, but what snow we did get went on to last for quite a while due to the really cold temperatures at that time.

Sadly though, February was a much milder and completely snowless month (just like February 2011 which was also really mild after that particular winter had started off with the December to remember back in 2010). That was therefore, a classic example of  front-loaded summer with just about all of the cold weather happening earlier on.

As far as our summers are concerned, we had two back to back decent summers in 2021 and 2022. The summer of 2021 was just a warm and pleasant summer with very little in the way of intense heat, although August 2021 was a rather poor month. Last summer was hot and sunny throughout, even during last August and of course, I haven't forgotten that it was during last July that the temperature got to above 30°C at all three of my local stations here in Edinburgh for only the first ever time in my lifetime, and on two successive back to back days as well.

I was down in Hawick at the time (which is in the Scottish Borders) and I ended sweltering in temperatures of around 35°C on what was actually the hottest day on record down there. In addition to that, this summer also started off on a really decent note but with the high pressure being centred to our north a lot of the time, it took a while for this summer to actually get going thanks to cool winds coming in from the North Sea.

Later on in June whilst I was down in Hawick, we had a massive thunderstorm which delivered 35 mm of rain in one fowl swoop. The weather then turned a bit cooler and fresher and although we continued to have the odd hot day during the following month, that hot and sunny weather which we had beforehand, never really came back to the same extent.

That has been culminated in what has been a very poor July which now looks as though it will end up being wetter than average, although it's not actually been as wet here during this month as it has been elsewhere due to a least a couple of low pressure systems slipping away to our south and completely missing here altogether.

When you add all of that together, this is shaping to be a classic front-loaded summer with most of the hot and sunny weather happening early on but in order for this summer to be the exact polar opposite of last winter, we needed to get another hot and sunny spell during this month, albeit one which wasn't quite as intense as the one which we had during June.

That hasn't really happened though. Because of the those cool winds from off the North Sea during June which haven't been present during this month to the same extent, it is during this month that we had our hottest day of this year so far. However, even that was a day which went more downhill over time with rain and cooler temperatures eventually setting in and as it stands, it is now looking likely that the temperature here in Edinburgh is going to fail to reach 80°F at any time for the second year out of the last three years.

That is a far cry from last year's 30+°C temperatures although in this modern era where climate change has been such a major headline, I probably wouldn't want it to be too hot. Nevertheless, this is looking like being a cooler than average month here and there has been quite a few "if only it were winter" synoptics which have been in place for quite a lot of the time (some of the models are even pointing towards the possibility of the type of northerly blast at the start of August which at other times of the year (and not just in winter, either) would be delivering snow to quite a number of areas, especially in the north of Scotland and even down to lower levels as well.

That is not exactly the charts which you want to be seeing in high summer when we are looking for some hot and sunny weather. For that, we need the Azores High to be building in towards the UK. Sadly though, the Azores High has been posted missing in recent times, although it wouldn't surprise me if it came back less than six months from now to ruin yet another winter.

If there's any consolation though, we started off this summer with a lot of concerns about water scarcity due to the ongoing lack of rainfall at that time. The wet weather during this month has alleviated those concerns quite a lot which has been enough for most of Scotland have returned to normal on that front, so water shortages are at least something which we don't have to worry about for now. Because it hasn't been as wet here though as it has been elsewhere, we are still currently at alert status as regards to water scarcity, according to SEPA.

What I found interesting is that another user who lives in Cornwall (which is not all that far from where you are) mentioned that there was actually still a hosepipe ban in place there, but this was a few weeks ago and so, that hosepipe ban might well have been lifted since then.
 



Thanks John

Yes been a difficult few months!

I usually find the current weather a bit boring really - I like to look out for heatwaves, thunder storms, in winter the SSW's, easterlies and other cold spells through GFS/ECM models fascinating especially if there is Greenland blocking and a negative NAO and a cold spell to come and the excitement/interest it brings on here and etc.

This summer hasn't really been that memorable for many - we have not broken any records either. Yeah! Can't believe there is still a hose ban given how much rain we have had at least here in west Devon but makes up for the dry winter and spring and we are gradually catching up!

Looks like this has been a front loaded summer - June wasn't too bad at all. July although not a total wash out - there has not been one hot spell or heat wave and succession of at least 4-5 days of drier settled weather here.

Quite a change from recent years - I can usually tell by amount of BBQ's we have and NONE so far except in May but this isn't summer.

Plus I am still waiting to dry clothes. - annoying drizzle continues! argh!
 
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Bolty
29 July 2023 13:46:10
Not too bad today. Partly cloudy, light winds and a high of 19.6°C so far. Still very tame for the last week of July, but given the crap we've had to put up with around here lately, I'll embrace it with open arms at the moment.
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LeedsLad123
29 July 2023 14:15:06
22C here today with mostly sunny skies. A very pleasant day. But it’s not going to last, is it?
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Jiries
29 July 2023 15:40:59
Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 

22C here today with mostly sunny skies. A very pleasant day. But it’s not going to last, is it?



No sadly but seeing 22C is on the average for Church Fenton which you mentioned other day.  2 days ago Nuneaton reached 24C which was 2C warmer than the SE for London and Epsom was only 22C.  At 24c was really nice safe warmth feeling and very rare warmth that we seeing this year after no warmth in Spring and short 2 weeks warmth in June.  
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29 July 2023 17:18:09
The actual coast in the south having a summer day to be enjoyed. A bit breezy, true, but unbroken sunshine from about 10am, with clouds pushed inland over the Downs.
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