Retron
29 July 2023 17:30:16
Originally Posted by: DEW 

The actual coast in the south having a summer day to be enjoyed. A bit breezy, true, but unbroken sunshine from about 10am, with clouds pushed inland over the Downs.


A very brief shower here, but aside from that it's been dry, warm and breezy. Just as well, as I'm having both my flat rooves ripped up and refelted, and that takes two whole days (it's around 60sqm of roof).

It'll rain tomorrow afternoon, but they've made it watertight today, so it won't matter if they're not quite finished by the time it starts.

It was also the Leysdown carnival today.

Normally that'd be a recipe for downpours, but not this year. It's pretty useable weather really!
Leysdown, north Kent
Jiries
29 July 2023 17:42:00
Originally Posted by: Retron 

A very brief shower here, but aside from that it's been dry, warm and breezy. Just as well, as I'm having both my flat rooves ripped up and refelted, and that takes two whole days (it's around 60sqm of roof).

It'll rain tomorrow afternoon, but they've made it watertight today, so it won't matter if they're not quite finished by the time it starts.

It was also the Leysdown carnival today.

Normally that'd be a recipe for downpours, but not this year. It's pretty useable weather really!



Would the new roof had been thicken enough or wider gap so the heat don't get inside much?   My dad old house's extension roof is 300mm or 30thick from the ceiling inside to the felt outside so no hot roof baking inside.
Retron
29 July 2023 17:46:18
Originally Posted by: Jiries 

Would the new roof had been thicken enough or wider gap so the heat don't get inside much?   My dad old house's extension roof is 300mm or 30thick from the ceiling inside to the felt outside so no hot roof baking inside.


The decking is the same, so it'll be the same old 4 inches (which is 10cm) of insulation. It's just the felt which they're replacing, but even that is a lot of work (as there are 3 layers, and just removing the old stuff took 4 hours!)

My neighbour over the road has a similarly old dormer upstairs and extended outwards, over his drive. The extension has really low ceilings as they insist on 30cm, I think it is, of insulation. As the roof couldn't be raised up, he had to lose height from inside. Apparently it's still absolutely boiling in the summer too!
Leysdown, north Kent
Jiries
29 July 2023 18:38:45
Originally Posted by: Retron 

The decking is the same, so it'll be the same old 4 inches (which is 10cm) of insulation. It's just the felt which they're replacing, but even that is a lot of work (as there are 3 layers, and just removing the old stuff took 4 hours!)

My neighbour over the road has a similarly old dormer upstairs and extended outwards, over his drive. The extension has really low ceilings as they insist on 30cm, I think it is, of insulation. As the roof couldn't be raised up, he had to lose height from inside. Apparently it's still absolutely boiling in the summer too!



That was the same issue forced us to lose ceiling height as the stupid rules was in 1993 when we did  the extension.  In 2016 our neighoour had built a massive extension and roof raised upward so our extension roof are lower than him. The rules was relaxed so it was allow to raise up and extend further so his garden got smaller.
severnside
30 July 2023 12:27:08
The foul putrid July continues, after a somewhat a better day Saturday, although still not completely dry, today is just late October again, yet more bloody rain and grey. This is the worst July I can remember, it beats 2012 by far for being garbage , interestingly that year produced a dry warm spell from the 19th to the 28th ! I don't think its gone more than 24 Hours without some rain this year. Locally its going to beat 2007 with rainfall and sunshine hours. Their is a good weather blogger on YT called Mark Vogan, he interestingly said El  Nino and the MJO might answer for this dreadful weather, in is summer prediction I believe he used this information.
 
Bolty
30 July 2023 14:24:35
This wind is really starting to get on my nerves now. It has to have been the windiest July ever! Yes, I recognise I'm in quite an exposed spot, but summer really shouldn't be this bad, even around here. You can accept it in autumn and winter, but it's getting ridiculous now.

I've had to pick the lemon tree up again, it's now snapped my blackcurrant bush and next door's beech tree keeps dropping branches all over my garden.
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Saint Snow
30 July 2023 14:59:40
Been following the weather for SW Brittany as we're going there mid-August. 

It's not been that much better than here for the last couple of weeks. Signs it'll pick up as we move through the second week of Aug, but still quite cool with 21/22c maxes (and plenty time for it to revert to autumnal garbage) 

In summer 2020 (not that great for the UK) we stayed a little further south (north of La Rochelle) and every day was a pleasant 24-30c and sunny. 

Not just the UK suffering (I imagine the Nordic countries have had worse-than-average summers, too, especially the southern halves) 

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fairweather
30 July 2023 19:08:30
Originally Posted by: Retron 

The decking is the same, so it'll be the same old 4 inches (which is 10cm) of insulation. It's just the felt which they're replacing, but even that is a lot of work (as there are 3 layers, and just removing the old stuff took 4 hours!)

My neighbour over the road has a similarly old dormer upstairs and extended outwards, over his drive. The extension has really low ceilings as they insist on 30cm, I think it is, of insulation. As the roof couldn't be raised up, he had to lose height from inside. Apparently it's still absolutely boiling in the summer too!


No doubt that was expensive! Roofers in Essex seem to charge £40 per hour ! Just got charged £1500 for some new batons, felt (well the cheap membrane they use now) and some tiles replaced and the gable edge re-cemented. Took 4 men 1 day.
S.Essex, 42m ASL
fairweather
30 July 2023 19:15:32
Well being one that had needed some rain quite badly up till a couple of weeks ago I can safely say that is no longer the case. The last ten days has produced more than the rest of the summer and some. Temperatures are a bit lower with a couple of days now not making 20C. Rain has helped the garden and we have a bumper crop of runner beans, cucumbers, beetroots, spring onions and more. I did note that tomato blight is starting to affect tomatoes on the allotment though and I fear this will spread given the forecast..
S.Essex, 42m ASL
Retron
31 July 2023 04:01:28
Originally Posted by: fairweather 

No doubt that was expensive! Roofers in Essex seem to charge £40 per hour ! Just got charged £1500 for some new batons, felt (well the cheap membrane they use now) and some tiles replaced and the gable edge re-cemented. Took 4 men 1 day.


It's turned into a bigger job than they were expecting (no surprise to me, the electrics took 3 extra days, the heating an extra day, the windows 2 extra days, the "posh shed" an extra 3 days... my house is like a black hole for tradesmen). They've had to replace a few tiles and two boards of decking, as well as contend with 35-mph gusts.

Seven man-days later and the edging still needs to be done, and the kitchen extension still needs its 3rd layer. Both will be done this week, sometime, but it's water-tight for now.

The cost? £6800, which covers 60sqm of roof. Not exactly cheap, but it's in line with pricing generally here.

I've been quoted £800 to re-cement the gable edge and I may well take them up on it, means I won't have to worry about winds as much this winter (my least favourite weather type).
Leysdown, north Kent
Jiries
31 July 2023 09:51:10
Today last day to be sunset at 9pm while sunrise 5.23 in this area.  Sad that the valuable long day lights had been virtually wasted since the unsettled weather came after the longest day.
cultman1
31 July 2023 13:20:44
I don’t think I can remember such a dull grey cool and rainy July in Fulham ever
August according to the Met Office looks like being the same all the way through to 21st at least. Seriously depressing and grim especially with the lack of sun and light 
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31 July 2023 13:47:23
Originally Posted by: Jiries 

Today last day to be sunset at 9pm while sunrise 5.23 in this area.  Sad that the valuable long day lights had been virtually wasted since the unsettled weather came after the longest day.



Don't feel sad George.
Get some lights like this and in no time at all you'll be looking forward to the shorter evenings so you can enjoy the garden under magical lighting.
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Retron
31 July 2023 13:50:15
Originally Posted by: Jiries 

Today last day to be sunset at 9pm while sunrise 5.23 in this area.  Sad that the valuable long day lights had been virtually wasted since the unsettled weather came after the longest day.


Still way past my bedtime, but at least the mornings are dark now when I get up (at 4 AM). We're getting proper nights now as well, the "grey nights" have now finished for the year.

 
Leysdown, north Kent
Saint Snow
31 July 2023 13:54:39
Originally Posted by: Retron 

Still way past my bedtime
 




I'm only just settling down after tea at 9pm. I really struggle to get your timetable.

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Retron
31 July 2023 14:00:04
Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

I'm only just settling down after tea at 9pm. I really struggle to get your timetable.


I struggle just as much with "normal" people.

Up at 4, in bed at 7. Works fine for me and I never need an alarm clock.
Leysdown, north Kent
Sussex snow magnet
31 July 2023 14:21:04
I love this weather:

Not to hot
Not to Cold
No sweating at work
No sun in my eyes when driving
No need for sun tan lotion.
Comfortable all the time.
No sleepless nights
No hay fever.
No issues with dog walking in the heat.

Long may it continue!!! Probably need to move to Aberdeen!
 
Bolty
31 July 2023 14:49:10
Originally Posted by: Jiries 

Today last day to be sunset at 9pm while sunrise 5.23 in this area.  Sad that the valuable long day lights had been virtually wasted since the unsettled weather came after the longest day.



Yes, I'm noticing the nights starting to draw in now too. I always feel a wave of sadness when I start to notice it, knowing that the best days of summer are behind us and the descent into that horrible teatime darkness is gathering pace. Once summer is over, the only delights for me until spring are the autumn colours and Christmas.
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DEW
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31 July 2023 15:32:41
Originally Posted by: cultman1 

I don’t think I can remember such a dull grey cool and rainy July in Fulham ever
August according to the Met Office looks like being the same all the way through to 21st at least. Seriously depressing and grim especially with the lack of sun and light 



Up to the middle of July, for us on the south coast, it was a case of 'what are all those northerners whingeing about? Sunny, comfortable warm and dry'.

Since then it's been a case of 'we share your pain'.
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Saint Snow
31 July 2023 15:52:48
Originally Posted by: DEW 

Up to the middle of July, for us on the south coast, it was a case of 'what are all those northerners whingeing about? Sunny, comfortable warm and dry'.

Since then it's been a case of 'we share your pain'.




😄

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