ballamar
12 December 2018 17:04:22

Originally Posted by: idj20 




I'd take that. At least it'd spare me the effort of issuing loads of travel advisories associated with stormy or snowy weather on my own forecasts in the run up to Christmas.



 


Just potentially fog !

Saint Snow
12 December 2018 17:05:57

Originally Posted by: ballamar 


Just potentially fog !



 


I love a bit of fog.



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idj20
12 December 2018 17:18:39

Originally Posted by: ballamar 


 


 


Just potentially fog !




Rather have that over Christmas 2013 which was wild and stormy on the day before Christmas Day AND again on Boxing Day. That was vile.


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Nick Gilly
12 December 2018 17:24:08
Atlantic onslaught fizzles out on latest GFS 12z run. HP fights back.
JACKO4EVER
12 December 2018 17:44:42
Fog and travel problems ahead if some of that were to verify
marco 79
12 December 2018 18:23:08
Gfs op and ECM want to pull the Azores high out by day 10....this trend is quite significant ....watch this space..maybe some changes afoot?...
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marcus72
12 December 2018 18:28:46

Classic - the 12Z brings us a "warm" northerly for the 25th!  The GFS really wants us to keep getting mild air, whatever direction it has to come from! 


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/gfs.aspx?run=12&charthour=312&chartname=mslp850&chartregion=na-region&charttag=MSLP%20850hPa%20C


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ballamar
12 December 2018 18:33:15
ECM interesting get Arctic involved
Whether Idle
12 December 2018 18:52:43

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

ECM interesting get Arctic involved


Not really, it will get shunted eastwards and will not greatly influence or affect our weather, at day 9 we are under strong SW flow and its another slice of warming pizza on the menu as the days start to lengthen.



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ballamar
12 December 2018 18:54:45

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


 


Not really, it will get shunted eastwards and will not greatly influence or affect our weather, at day 9 we are under strong SW flow and its another slice of warming pizza on the menu as the days start to lengthen.




 


wow mentioning the day lengthen is pointless 

Whether Idle
12 December 2018 19:00:04

Originally Posted by: ballamar 


 


 


wow mentioning the day lengthen is pointless 



Why?


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tallyho_83
12 December 2018 19:06:32

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


 


Why?



It's the shortest day and even during the blizzard early March it looked pitch black at 6pm!!


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JACKO4EVER
12 December 2018 19:14:22
What this run does highlight is that we could get well into December- and even to New Year without much of lowland Britain not seeing anything remotely wintery. Let’s hope January delivers.
Gandalf The White
12 December 2018 19:34:29

Originally Posted by: marcus72 


Classic - the 12Z brings us a "warm" northerly for the 25th!  The GFS really wants us to keep getting mild air, whatever direction it has to come from! 


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/gfs.aspx?run=12&charthour=312&chartname=mslp850&chartregion=na-region&charttag=MSLP%20850hPa%20C



LOL - but of course that isn't a northerly. The air originates in mid-Atlantic.


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beanoir
12 December 2018 19:34:49

 


Originally Posted by: ballamar 


 


 


wow mentioning the day lengthen is pointless 



 


agreed, it’s an emotionally pointed comment with very little impact on what happens from the model output.  


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Rob K
12 December 2018 19:35:37

Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 

What this run does highlight is that we could get well into December- and even to New Year without much of lowland Britain not seeing anything remotely wintery. Let’s hope January delivers.


I would say most of lowland Britain has already had some fairly wintry weather. I'm above average for number of frosts by mid December, I would have thought.


 


ECM is interesting, high pressure is quite reluctant to leave the southern part of the country, and keeps fighting back. Might not be quite as unsettled as I was fearing.


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Arcus
12 December 2018 19:36:36
Some interesting output tonight, particularly the trends in the far reaches. More runs, as ever.
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Whether Idle
12 December 2018 19:38:35

Originally Posted by: beanoir 


 


 


 


agreed, it’s an emotionally pointed comment with very little impact on what happens from the model output.  



"Kiss my shiny metal butt" as someone once said.


 


In all seriousness, it is a statement of fact.  Are you arguing that the days don't  lengthen after 21 December in Britain?


21 December is the winter solstice.


 


Here is a link so you can learn more about it


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_solstice


 


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doctormog
12 December 2018 19:42:49
It’s hardly breaking news that the days start getting longer in late December and it has no impact on winter prospects and model output as it happens every winter.

A chilly few days then unsettled (maybe some transient northern snow) and then unsettled and possibly uncertain.
Gusty
12 December 2018 19:49:10

Originally Posted by: doctormog 



A chilly few days then unsettled (maybe some transient northern snow) and then unsettled and possibly uncertain.


Agreed. Hopefully the unsettled conditions will cease in time for Christmas.


I'm sure most of us would welcome a mild and benign Christmas and New Year. Its so much easier to get about, see the family and get out for nice walks during the holiday break 


 


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