Brian Gaze
02 August 2017 13:53:46

The land of eternal October has definitely returned. The first half of the summer was cracking here but since mid July it has been poor. What odds on anomalously warm and dry conditions returning for September? Quite a safe (but unscientific ) bet IMO and it's one of the indicators I look to for the winter ahead. 


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02 August 2017 13:57:00

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


The land of eternal October has definitely returned. The first half of the summer was cracking here but since mid July it has been poor. What odds on anomalously warm and dry conditions returning for September? Quite a safe (but unscientific ) bet IMO and it's one of the indicators I look to for the winter ahead. 



It's been mainly like this since start of June here apart from 3 good days about 15th.
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ARTzeman
02 August 2017 14:44:43
Damp, dismal day TWO for August. Nearly April again.....




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colin46
02 August 2017 14:57:15
Lovely and cool with fresh breeze here today! i'll take that over the humid,opressive rubbish followed by a thunderstorm any day of the week......roll on winter!!
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richardabdn
02 August 2017 16:57:42

Nothing worse than a fine working day giving way to a crap evening as happened today. 19.8C and sun earlier on, a revolting 14.9C and rain now 


As if that wasn’t bad enough there is an utterly grim depressing outlook with low pressure and northerly winds combining to give another period of permacast hell. Looks every bit as dire as two weeks ago. Can’t see any opportunity to enjoy being outdoors over the next week.


Warning out for heavy downpours tomorrow, more rain on Friday and weekend looking a complete write-off. 22nd/23rd July just failed to be the dullest of the year so far but the revolting pile of tripe coming up will again mount a challenge


Wonder if we can get even further into this month than even June before the first dry day occurs. Yet another stinking awful summer without a decent or even half-decent month.


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johncs2016
02 August 2017 17:11:57

For here, it has now been raining solidly for several hours. According to the forecast, this band of rain which is over us just now was supposed to fragment and become lighter and patchier as it approached this part of the world. Indeed, there didn't even appear to be much on it at all this morning when I looked at it on the rain radar map at the time when it was just starting to fringe into the far SW of Scotland. However, instead of this rain becoming lighter and patchier as forecast, it has actually pepped up even further as it approached us, and that is what has brought such a miserable afternoon to this part of the world, within this miserable non-event of a 'summer'.

Not too long ago, a Wednesday (along with the weekends) was one of the best days of the week where the weather would be better than expected, and even quite decent at times. However, all of that went out of the window last week and now, even Wednesdays aren't so great any more for trying to get any decent weather as we have seen today. Of course, we can never rule out the possibility of some decent summer weather later on this month. However, the fact that the days are now shortening more rapidly over time means that any sunshine is losing strength over time as a result of it no longer being as high in the sky at the solar noon.

That in turn means that from this position of having very poor weather until now, it is probably a lot more difficult now to get into some proper summer weather from there than it would have been if this happened about a month or so ago, and that is only going to get even more difficult over time as the days continue to shorten and the Sun continues to lose more strength as a result. Because of that, I will glad now just to see the back of this so-called 'summer' so I can then see what the following winter might have in store for us.


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PFCSCOTTY
02 August 2017 20:04:14
I do think now with the volume of water and saturated ground the chances of anything exceptional heat wise have now completely gone.
Medlock Vale Weather
02 August 2017 20:27:25

Certainly turning out to be a poor summer here. A relative in Seattle says they have had a great summer over there, they normally have a bit better summers than here but apparently it's been an especially good one this year. Forecast looks good too. http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/c23nb54sr


 


 


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Andy Woodcock
02 August 2017 20:29:07
During the past week its been remarkably wet here but amazingly all the rain has occurred before mid day with the afternoons being sunny with near average temperatures. Yesterday was an typical example, heavy rain and 13c at 8am but sunshine and 19c at 6pm, warm enough to sit in the garden with a glass of wine. However lets not kid ourselves, this summer is pure rubbish and only the timing of rainbands in my particular location has made it tolerable.

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Crepuscular Ray
02 August 2017 21:10:08
Just watched the BBC long range and despite a weak ridge giving the south warmer drier weather next week, its not to be up here. Hoping for a thunderstorm at least tomorrow to make things interesting!
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Bolty
02 August 2017 23:25:12

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


The land of eternal October has definitely returned. The first half of the summer was cracking here but since mid July it has been poor. What odds on anomalously warm and dry conditions returning for September? Quite a safe (but unscientific ) bet IMO and it's one of the indicators I look to for the winter ahead. 



I think we've definately seen the peak of this year's summer, and now we've began a slow descent into autumn and winter. Mind you, it still wouldn't surprise me if September is everything August should have been again. I actually have higher expectations of it than I do of August.


Even after last year's decent August, September still gave it a serious run for it's money with that heat wave.


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Jiries
02 August 2017 23:40:48

Originally Posted by: PFCSCOTTY 

I do think now with the volume of water and saturated ground the chances of anything exceptional heat wise have now completely gone.


Agreed and already find summer 2017 down with another very poor summer and even if we do get any better weather is already damaged had been done, due to the poor weather strike on the high summer peak time when we should be expecting heatwaves and settled weather at this time of the year.  A good summer require all 3 months containing it with occasional heatwaves, prolonged settled weather and brief unsettled weather.  I haven't cut the grass since early July and I will not cut it until I see proper settled period come, otherwise if you cut it now it will grow quickly.  This time the grass haven't grown much due to rather cool temps and lack of sunshine.


 

idj20
03 August 2017 08:55:53

Originally Posted by: Jiries 


 


Agreed and already find summer 2017 down with another very poor summer and even if we do get any better weather is already damaged had been done, due to the poor weather strike on the high summer peak time when we should be expecting heatwaves and settled weather at this time of the year.  A good summer require all 3 months containing it with occasional heatwaves, prolonged settled weather and brief unsettled weather.  I haven't cut the grass since early July and I will not cut it until I see proper settled period come, otherwise if you cut it now it will grow quickly.  This time the grass haven't grown much due to rather cool temps and lack of sunshine.


 




My lawn is only just starting to grow slowly because it has been so dry and parched in the past few weeks!


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Crepuscular Ray
03 August 2017 09:02:43
Lawns waterlogged and out of bounds all summer up here, too wet to cut
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ARTzeman
03 August 2017 09:55:20

March winds today ...






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johncs2016
03 August 2017 10:37:15
This hellhole of a 'summer' just seems to be going from bad to worse now. Already this summer, we have had our wettest June on record. Somehow, we managed to escape with just average rainfall during July although I have no idea as to how we managed that with such an unsettled weather pattern. However, July was still a miserable month for other reasons as it was both colder than average (leaving June as our only warmer than average month during this summer) and along with June, it was also duller than average.

In terms of rainfall, it is already looking as though July will probably now be the best month of the summer in that regard, as the rainfall rates appear to have stepped up a gear once again over the last few days. On Tuesday, we had heavy rain in the early part of the morning with showers later on which got much heavier by the evening. Wednesday then brought a miserably wet afternoon after a very rare bright and sunny start to the day. Now today, we have had some torrential downpours during large parts of this morning as we now once again, have low pressure centred more or less right on top of us, which has been an all too familiar scenario during this summer.

Just now, it's not too bad although it is still raining a bit, and I will expect there to be a risk of further torrential downpours during the rest of the day. Temperatures were around average yesterday at around 19C, but the outlook is much cooler once again as this low pressure which is sitting over the top of us just now, pulls away and drags in that cooler NW airflow. Furthermore, we are likely to still have showers during tomorrow and Saturday as well. At the moment, Sunday isn't looking quite so bad but by Monday, we are back to square one again with low pressure sitting more or less right on top of us.

That doesn't fill me with much hope for the very short time which is left of this summer and all I say to that now is, 'roll on winter'.

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speckledjim
03 August 2017 11:00:22

Just had a look at the met office stats for July. Surprising (based on the comments on here) to see that Scotland had pretty much average rainfall for July whereas the South of England was wetter than average. It was, however, slightly cooler than average across a lot of Scotland and warmer than average across the South. 


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johncs2016
03 August 2017 11:16:00

Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Just had a look at the met office stats for July. Surprising (based on the comments on here) to see that Scotland had pretty much average rainfall for July whereas the South of England was wetter than average. It was, however, slightly cooler than average across a lot of Scotland and warmer than average across the South. 



What is interesting about those stats is that Scotland is shown to be slightly sunnier than average, yet it certainly wasn't sunnier than average in this part of the world and the earlier provisional Met Office maps showed it to be duller than average here in Edinburgh, although the final data has now corrected that so that sunshine totals for here are now shown to be around average. However, the sunniest place in Scotland (and possibly of the entire UK) was actually the Shetland Islands and I suspect that it was probably just the fact that the Northern Isles and the north-west of Scotland were sunnier than average, which resulted in Scotland being slightly sunnier than average as a whole.


Edit:


I have also noticed that according to the 1961-90 long-term average, we were actually slightly wetter than average during July in this part of the world, which goes against what the provisional maps were showing a few days ago when the rainfall totals for here were shown to be around average. At the same time, we were near to or slightly above the 1981-2010 average during July for rainfall. That means that for all intents and purposes, it was a wetter than average month here even if Scotland as a whole just had average rainfall. That in turn means that we are still well on course for every single summer month to be wetter than average in this part of the world. With the amount of rain which we are getting just now as well, it is now looking very strong odds on that this is what will end up happening, and that just sums up how miserable this so-called summer has been.


 


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doctormog
03 August 2017 11:51:06

Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Just had a look at the met office stats for July. Surprising (based on the comments on here) to see that Scotland had pretty much average rainfall for July whereas the South of England was wetter than average. It was, however, slightly cooler than average across a lot of Scotland and warmer than average across the South. 



I think a slightly cooler, wetter and duller than average July in these parts following a washout June probably justifies a lot of the moaning to an extent.


Crepuscular Ray
04 August 2017 06:55:40
And we awake to another gloomy day day with a chill westerly and rain! 10 consecutive days with rain now!
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