blaggers1968
20 May 2017 09:47:34

Originally Posted by: Arcus 

Well if it does come to pass that we get what most of the models are now showing for next week then a tip of the hat IMO to the GEM Op 4 days ago.


Totally agree. Sometimes the recipient of less respectful comments, the GEM seems to have been the originator (should it all hopefully happen!)

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20 May 2017 10:35:01

I've not had internet access for a couple of days and when I last looked the outlook was cool & wet pretty much as far as the eye could see.
What a turnaround now! Dry and settled and potentially even hot. OK, it hasn't actually happened yet and things could still 'flip' (they certainly do in winter!) but it looks promising to say the least.


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Brian Gaze
20 May 2017 11:04:32

Stay on topic. The weather is more interesting bickering and squabbling at the moment.


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Bolty
20 May 2017 11:14:16

Another brilliant GFS run with warm or hot weather pretty much arriving and locking itself over the country. A very warm end to May and start to June on this one! Thunderstorms certainly wouldn't be out of the question either!



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Sinky1970
20 May 2017 12:13:23
My regional BBC forecast suggests that the temperature will not pass 21C next week, incorrect i believe.
cultman1
20 May 2017 13:13:45
I hope your prognosis is right but it depends where you are and the models may downgrade or upgrade a bit as the change in weather pattern becomes established
Gavin D
20 May 2017 18:07:43

Very hot from GEM for a short time



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Nick Gilly
20 May 2017 18:17:16

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Very hot from GEM for a short time



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That's insane. GEM has lost the plot!

Arcus
20 May 2017 18:44:11

ECM not as extreme as GEM on the 850s, but in the same ballpark. Heat Low approaching from the SSW as well that goes pop into 192.



 


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20 May 2017 18:56:11
If I'm being picky we could do with the fine weather holding out through the weekend and breaking down late Monday, but it is encouraging to see the likes of ECM not far behind the frankly insane GEM this evening!
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Stormchaser
20 May 2017 20:05:35

Historically, GEM has tended to overdo the 850s in plume events (yet not the 2 m temp maximums, strangely enough) while ECM has a curious habit of producing overly sensational plume breakdown events.


So... caution is advised with those two runs this evening. Even more so when considering just how much more stable but fresh(er) the GFS run is, with a stronger ridge that deflects the focus of heat away to the SW.


A halfway house would arguably be the optimum outcome for next weekend; enough of a ridge to delay any electrical shenanigans until Monday evening, but not one so strong that we miss out on a chance to see the high 20s during the May Bank Holiday which is a novelty I for one would like to see .


 


Way out in time but - the ECM day 10 poses the interesting question; can an Atlantic trough + UK-Euro ridge be maintained while the Arctic is dominated by an extensive area of high pressure? In theory, the reduced overall westerly momentum could make it possible to lock-in that trough-ridge configuration, but locally increased latitudinal temperature gradients have a habit of bringing about faster sections of jet stream that put an end to such dreams.


With any luck, such extensive Arctic blocking will be avoided in the first place. At that range, the range of possibilities is very wide indeed 


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Ally Pally Snowman
21 May 2017 07:40:55

Another extreme run from the ecm 18c 850s in a week's time. Could be some records being broken IF it really does get that warm.


http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1682.html


 


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Rob K
21 May 2017 07:45:21
The May record is 32.8C back in 1944. GEM goes for 33C widely on Saturday with a couple of 34s in the east.
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Gavin D
21 May 2017 08:09:17

GEM has +19 850s for a time


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Jiries
21 May 2017 08:34:40

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

The May record is 32.8C back in 1944. GEM goes for 33C widely on Saturday with a couple of 34s in the east.


it likely the peak temps would be Sat to Sunday but glad to see how the heatwave develop slowly than a quickie one.  At least further HP coming on Monday so a good weekend for car boot sales.

Hungry Tiger
21 May 2017 10:03:11

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

The May record is 32.8C back in 1944. GEM goes for 33C widely on Saturday with a couple of 34s in the east.



I was about to ask that question - beaten me to it . Thanks.


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Hungry Tiger
21 May 2017 10:08:07

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

The May record is 32.8C back in 1944. GEM goes for 33C widely on Saturday with a couple of 34s in the east.



 























May highest maximum 32.8C22 May 1922^Camden Square
(London)
29 May 1944Horsham
(West Sussex)
29 May 1944Tunbridge Wells
(Kent)
29 May 1944Regent's Park
(London)

 


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briggsy6
21 May 2017 15:35:10

Amazing that three separate locations all recorded identical maximum temps on the same day back in May 1944!


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Bertwhistle
21 May 2017 16:49:37

http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/chart.aspx?chart=/charts/gfs/12_195_uk2mtmp.png?cb=530


This is a silly chart in the overall picture- designed to conflagrate. 10C maxima at 3pm on the BH? That'll U-turn or modify over the next few runs; I'll bet my third best runner bean on it.


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moomin75
21 May 2017 17:52:37

Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 


http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/chart.aspx?chart=/charts/gfs/12_195_uk2mtmp.png?cb=530


This is a silly chart in the overall picture- designed to conflagrate. 10C maxima at 3pm on the BH? That'll U-turn or modify over the next few runs; I'll bet my third best runner bean on it.


Indeed. A wet and cold outlier on the 12z Ensembles. 


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