squish
10 February 2021 16:26:05
The parallel is astounding -16 850s into EA by +180!
D.E.W on Dartmoor. 300m asl
Ally Pally Snowman
10 February 2021 16:26:32

Originally Posted by: squish 

The parallel is astounding -16 850s into EA by +180!


Indeed. Madness!


https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=186&mode=1&runpara=1&carte=6


 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Joe Bloggs
10 February 2021 16:29:52

Such drama. And at the same time I’m watching a blob crossing over the hills.


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doctormog
10 February 2021 16:32:21
Yes it is interesting but it (GFSP/v16) is not even an operational model yet. I would take such evolutions with a huge pinch of salt. The breakdown this weekend is still on course (slowly) to something less cold. It may, further down the line, get cold again but there’s a lot of water/snow melt to pass under the bridge first.
Snow Hoper
10 February 2021 16:46:20

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

Yes it is interesting but it (GFSP/v16) is not even an operational model yet. I would take such evolutions with a huge pinch of salt. The breakdown this weekend is still on course (slowly) to something less cold. It may, further down the line, get cold again but there’s a lot of water/snow melt to pass under the bridge first.


Yeah sensible approach. I wont dismiss it, but equally I'm not buying into either.


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Ally Pally Snowman
10 February 2021 16:50:59
nsrobins
10 February 2021 16:54:28
Pretty much a total u-turn on the UKM extended over just three issues. That didn’t take long.
Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
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Whether Idle
10 February 2021 17:00:01

Originally Posted by: squish 

The parallel is astounding -16 850s into EA by +180!


I fully expect it is on the money.  Feeling confident!


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
MStewart
10 February 2021 17:03:07

what’s the uturn to? I’m seeing quite a few different meto forecasts on their different channels πŸ˜‚


 



Originally Posted by: nsrobins 

Pretty much a total u-turn on the UKM extended over just three issues. That didn’t take long.


Mark
Twickenham
12m ASL
doctormog
10 February 2021 17:03:11

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


 


I fully expect it is on the money.  Feeling confident!



 You left out ==> 


It will be interesting as ever to see what the ECM 12z shows. If it is remotely like the GFSP I will raise one perhaps even two eyebrows.


Whether Idle
10 February 2021 17:06:24

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 


 You left out ==> 


It will be interesting as ever to see what the ECM 12z shows. If it is remotely like the GFSP I will raise one perhaps even two eyebrows.



Having snow falling on snow presently is giving me a boost.  I think the models are going to bring severe cold back before the last week of the month, maybe sooner a la //.


 


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Russwirral
10 February 2021 17:09:04
yeh as with others, I smell something is up.. I can see the cold winning out

I just havent seen a run with the atlantic steamrolling in.. every run is clipping us with the Pressure to our east re-establishing quickly.

As much as theres chatter of "how much snow will there be in the breakdown" its quite conceivable there will be none, and we get another week of dry with very cold winds... which would make sense from a balance perspective... january was one of the wettest on record... would make sense Feb was one of the driest

doctormog
10 February 2021 17:09:11

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


 


Having snow falling on snow presently is giving me a boost.  I think the models are going to bring severe cold back before the last week of the month, maybe sooner a la //.


 



Fingers crossed and I am glad to hear you have snow falling. 


nsrobins
10 February 2021 17:11:30

Originally Posted by: MStewart 


what’s the uturn to? I’m seeing quite a few different meto forecasts on their different channels πŸ˜‚


 


 



Early period UKM text. More or less removed all reference to easterly type now, and they’re probably quite right given the significant majority of output brings the Atlantic in next week.


If the GFS parallel is right I’ll eat the contents of my wheely bin.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Whether Idle
10 February 2021 17:13:15

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


 


Early period UKM text. More or less removed all reference to easterly type now, and they’re probably quite right given the significant majority of output brings the Atlantic in next week.


If the GFS parallel is right I’ll eat the contents of my wheely bin.



Dinner is served


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
doctormog
10 February 2021 17:14:14

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


 


Early period UKM text. More or less removed all reference to easterly type now, and they’re probably quite right given the significant majority of output brings the Atlantic in next week.


If the GFS parallel is right I’ll eat the contents of my wheely bin.



I guess rubbish input beats rubbish output? 


Rob K
10 February 2021 17:22:08

Amid all the scatter, one trend to pick out is for high pressure to dominate the UK weather for the second half of the month, I think. Whether that is a cold high with a bit of easterly influence or a mild high with some early spring sunshine is open to debate, but I rather doubt we will be seeing much of the Z word for a couple of weeks at least.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." β€” Jerome K. Jerome
Rob K
10 February 2021 17:29:53

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


 


Early period UKM text. More or less removed all reference to easterly type now, and they’re probably quite right given the significant majority of output brings the Atlantic in next week.


If the GFS parallel is right I’ll eat the contents of my wheely bin.



The Met are certainly bullish with the mild. The auto forecast here has 10C for Monday and 11C for Tuesday; GFS ensemble has a median value of 3.6C and 6.0C respectively, and even the mildest member doesn't reach quite that high (9.4C and 10.3C are the highest).


 


Mind you the Met went for 7C for this Friday just a couple of days ago, and have since revised it down to 1C. 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." β€” Jerome K. Jerome
LeedsLad123
10 February 2021 17:30:13

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Amid all the scatter, one trend to pick out is for high pressure to dominate the UK weather for the second half of the month, I think. Whether that is a cold high with a bit of easterly influence or a mild high with some early spring sunshine is open to debate, but I rather doubt we will be seeing much of the Z word for a couple of weeks at least.



Something like Feb 2008 would be nice - high diurnal ranges with mild days and cold nights.


Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
KevBrads1
10 February 2021 17:32:30

A -17C dewpoint showing up on GFS 12z for midday Saturday



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