The Beast from the East
26 July 2019 10:41:40

GFS has another potential heatwave



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Polar Low
26 July 2019 17:13:15

I dont get that Geoff what does SEI mean not seen that before?


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


GFS has another potential heatwave



Hungry Tiger
26 July 2019 20:09:20

I think we're in for a hot August.


 


 


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Ally Pally Snowman
27 July 2019 05:07:17

The outlook looks very mixed if not poor at the moment no sign of flaming August yet.


 


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marco 79
27 July 2019 06:40:44

Indeed...00 GEFS consensus showing a very tight cluster of ENS for the next 10 days of around average temps...


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Ally Pally Snowman
27 July 2019 06:55:08

Ecm looks unsettled as well although warm if not very warm at times also. The most obvious thing about the output at the moment is the lack of sustained high pressure anywhere near the UK. 


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Shropshire
27 July 2019 07:37:09

Models now agreed on a very wet week coming up.


 


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doctormog
27 July 2019 07:41:30
https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPUK00_180_49.png 

Nothing overly settled or anticyclonic in the outlook at the moment as others have suggested but it does look generally warmer than average. Hidden in the middle of that low pressure dominated mess could be some quite pleasant weather.

moomin75
27 July 2019 08:00:17

Originally Posted by: Shropshire 


Models now agreed on a very wet week coming up.


 


Don't need to look at the models. I know the outlook is poor when you aee back posting. 😂😂😂


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briggsy6
27 July 2019 08:03:42

Can I be the first to say it? 


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moomin75
27 July 2019 08:12:58

Originally Posted by: briggsy6 


Can I be the first to say it? 


"Summer is over" 😂😂😂


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David M Porter
27 July 2019 08:34:30

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Ecm looks unsettled as well although warm if not very warm at times also. The most obvious thing about the output at the moment is the lack of sustained high pressure anywhere near the UK. 



What we need for a sustained settled period along the lines of what we saw for much of last summer IMO is for a fall in pressure over the Greenland region. As long as pressure remains relatively high there, any settled weather we get will only be transient at best.


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moomin75
27 July 2019 08:50:32

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


 


What we need for a sustained settled period along the lines of what we saw for much of last summer IMO is for a fall in pressure over the Greenland region. As long as pressure remains relatively high there, any settled weather we get will only be transient at best.


I don't normally look at the positives as you know, but despite the general pessimism, I think we will get at least one more really hot spell before summer is out. The heat to our south is intense and it won't take much for us to tap into this again. Northern blocking is not always bad news for us, if it's in the right place, as it can push low pressures south into the mid Atlantic, which will act as a catalyst for drawing warmth up from the south. I think this is very likely to happen again in the next 10-14 days. Time will tell, but I doubt this unsettled spell will last too long.


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David M Porter
27 July 2019 08:59:10

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


I don't normally look at the positives as you know, but despite the general pessimism, I think we will get at least one more really hot spell before summer is out. The heat to our south is intense and it won't take much for us to tap into this again. Northern blocking is not always bad news for us, if it's in the right place, as it can push low pressures south into the mid Atlantic, which will act as a catalyst for drawing warmth up from the south. I think this is very likely to happen again in the next 10-14 days. Time will tell, but I doubt this unsettled spell will last too long.



Anything is possible with our weather, Kieren.


I, for one, am willing to bet a tenner that if I or anyone else at the start of this month had come on here and predicted that towards the end of July we'd have a potentially record-breaking heatwave, we'd have been laughed at by many members. They would have been justified too, as there was little if any indication in the model ouput of such a spell being possible until about 10 days ago. One can never afford to be too sure of anything with our weather and also with the model output. In my experience, the latter is often as fickle as the former.


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David M Porter
27 July 2019 09:01:43

Originally Posted by: Shropshire 


Models now agreed on a very wet week coming up.


 



Evidence please?


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doctormog
27 July 2019 09:15:18

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


 


Evidence please?



ECM 00z https://weather.us/model-charts/euro/united-kingdom/accumulated-precipitation/20190804-0000z.html


GFS 00z (op run) https://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPUK00_180_49.png 


To be fair it does look wet in some places.


Ally Pally Snowman
27 July 2019 09:26:19

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


I don't normally look at the positives as you know, but despite the general pessimism, I think we will get at least one more really hot spell before summer is out. The heat to our south is intense and it won't take much for us to tap into this again. Northern blocking is not always bad news for us, if it's in the right place, as it can push low pressures south into the mid Atlantic, which will act as a catalyst for drawing warmth up from the south. I think this is very likely to happen again in the next 10-14 days. Time will tell, but I doubt this unsettled spell will last too long.



 


It would be nice to see a heatwave  rear its head soon as the output above anything else at the moment is boring. Met Office seem to think its more than possible in August but their long range accuracy has been pretty bad it has to be said.


 


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briggsy6
27 July 2019 10:14:15

Even if August turns out disappointing (again), there's always the chance of an Indian Summer in September.


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Sevendust
27 July 2019 10:28:05

Synoptics are generally slack but low pressure is in evidence and given the potential warmth at this point in time I would expect wide variations in thundery rainfall this week. Some places could get a lot of rain

Ally Pally Snowman
27 July 2019 16:44:42

Much better 12s so far GFS is settled and warm from 96h to 240h temps in the high 20s in the SE. 


GEM upto 168h similar.


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