Rob K
27 June 2019 18:14:16

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


 


Pembrey airport for 2 consecutive hourly readings between 3-5pm was 27C exact - not rounded. :)


 http://www.weathercast.co.uk/world-weather/weather-stations/obsid/2003605.html


 



Weathercast gives rounded readings for airports as it uses METARs, I believe. Notice they are all ending in .0.


 


Weatheronline gives the hourly figures for Pembrey Burrows, which I think is actually the same station, as 26.5C, 26.6C and 26.6C.


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picturesareme
27 June 2019 18:29:21

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


Weathercast gives rounded readings for airports as it uses METARs, I believe. Notice they are all ending in .0.


 


Weatheronline gives the hourly figures for Pembrey Burrows, which I think is actually the same station, as 26.5C, 26.6C and 26.6C.



http://www.weathercast.co.uk/world-weather/weather-stations/obsid/3605.html


 


Pembrey sands 26.6C on weathercast 


and not all airports are rounded..


Bournemouth for example..


 


http://www.weathercast.co.uk/world-weather/weather-stations/obsid/3605.html


 

johncs2016
27 June 2019 19:05:08

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


Weathercast gives rounded readings for airports as it uses METARs, I believe. Notice they are all ending in .0.


 


Weatheronline gives the hourly figures for Pembrey Burrows, which I think is actually the same station, as 26.5C, 26.6C and 26.6C.



Thanks for that info.


I have always wondered why temperatures for Edinburgh Airport were only ever reported to the nearest 1°C whilst temperatures for Edinburgh Gogarbank and the botanic gardens in Edinburgh were reported to the nearest 0.1°C.


Thanks to the above post though, I now know the reason why this is the case.


 


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xioni2
27 June 2019 19:25:46

It really is fresh out there, I cycled through the Surrey hills this evening without sweating.


Perfect cycling conditions and the English countryside at its best.


 

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27 June 2019 19:30:24
35C at 9pm in Clermont Ferrand must be fun. And the city is dense, with dark stone (think Aberdeen), little wind and not much air conditioning as it’s not a holiday area.

In a week’s time they could be seeing ground frost in the hills around there.
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Jiries
27 June 2019 20:21:42

Originally Posted by: TimS 

35C at 9pm in Clermont Ferrand must be fun. And the city is dense, with dark stone (think Aberdeen), little wind and not much air conditioning as it’s not a holiday area.

In a week’s time they could be seeing ground frost in the hills around there.


Despite stupid 19C uppers not delivering heat of 34-35C here today, this never happened before on having extreme 20C different from here to France.  General is around 3-4C cooler than France in here so really here some places would had seen 38-40C here by Saturday if the proper sunny days prior had occurred.   Really boring week so far and today have to keep the windows closed to keep the remaining warmth from earlier in the week due to strong winds coming from the east. Even if Europe going to 40C and modified over the sea it shouldn't give below 20C here, would be 32-35C.

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27 June 2019 20:25:33
Agreed Jiries, I think there has been some decidedly illegal modification of our boundary layer in the last couple of days. Blatant irregularities.
Brockley, South East London 30m asl
27 June 2019 20:28:31

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


 


http://www.weathercast.co.uk/world-weather/weather-stations/obsid/3605.html


 


Pembrey sands 26.6C on weathercast 


and not all airports are rounded..


Bournemouth for example..


 


http://www.weathercast.co.uk/world-weather/weather-stations/obsid/3605.html


 



That's because the Hurn site is a SYNOP station. Most airports just have a METAR site (as Rob mentioned) which is always rounded. 


Just to confuse things even further, Heathrow has both SYNOP and METAR reporting stations. The one we always talk about is the SYNOP station. I imagine Hurn probably has a METAR site as well because most airports do.

27 June 2019 20:32:06

Originally Posted by: Global Warming 


 


A frequent hot spot in these conditions is Porthmadog. Highest hourly reading from that station today is 26.8C at 1400



Porthmadog was the warmest place in the UK today at 27.1C

Jiries
27 June 2019 20:32:16

Originally Posted by: TimS 

Agreed Jiries, I think there has been some decidedly illegal modification of our boundary layer in the last couple of days. Blatant irregularities.


Yes definitely shouldn't happen at all and hope will be the last time to see this incident and to to make a habit of it.

howham
27 June 2019 20:56:01

Originally Posted by: TimS 

35C at 9pm in Clermont Ferrand must be fun. And the city is dense, with dark stone (think Aberdeen).


Fun fact, Clermont Ferrand is actually twinned with Aberdeen.  Ok, back on topic....

JACKO4EVER
27 June 2019 21:10:13
I wonder if the Clermont Ferrand weather forum has its very own RichardFrnd?
I’m sure he would be well upset with the quite ridiculous high temperatures and never ending cack of glorious sunshine ☀️
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27 June 2019 21:21:41

I know there are clear meteorological explanations, but...


Isn’t it incredible this week that we have the hottest uppers ever recorded over the U.K. - touching 25C tomorrow - and surface temperatures in the early to mid 20s.


Just look at the 850 chart for tomorrow.



That screams record breaking heatwave. It makes 10 August 2003 look like a moderately warm late summer day:



Utterly bonkers. Look how cool Africa is in 2003. One constant is how chilly Finland is in both cases.


We wuz robbed this week. Totally robbed.


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Gusty
27 June 2019 21:24:21

Am I the only one thinking that Saturday's maximum forecast temperature of 33c is being underplayed ?


We are tapping into fierce continental heat that has been in place for a few days.


23c (850Hpa's) 576 dam, unbroken sunshine after a very warm night (heat starts to usher in Friday evening) on a light SE feed down here with the peak of the upper plume occuring around 3pm...hmmm I think 36c will be nearer the mark based on experience of these setups. 


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CornishBlizzard
27 June 2019 21:33:32
In Cornwall its currently 21C at 10.30pm and very windy. Bizarre.

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27 June 2019 21:33:35

Originally Posted by: Gusty 


Am I the only one thinking that Saturday's maximum forecast temperature of 33c is being underplayed ?


We are tapping into fierce continental heat that has been in place for a few days.


23c (850Hpa's) 576 dam, unbroken sunshine after a very warm night (heat starts to usher in Friday evening) on a light SE feed down here with the peak of the upper plume occuring around 3pm...hmmm I think 36c will be nearer the mark based on experience of these setups. 



No Steve, Ive had similar musings,  the ingredients are there for a NW London 36c.


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xioni2
27 June 2019 21:33:52

Originally Posted by: Gusty 


Am I the only one thinking that Saturday's maximum forecast temperature of 33c is being underplayed ?


We are tapping into fierce continental heat that has been in place for a few days.


23c (850Hpa's) 576 dam, unbroken sunshine after a very warm night (heat starts to usher in Friday evening) on a light SE feed down here with the peak of the upper plume occuring around 3pm...hmmm I think 36c will be nearer the mark based on experience of these setups. 



33.7C is my lucky guess. The overnight temps won't be high actually.

Tim A
27 June 2019 21:37:21

Originally Posted by: TimS 


I know there are clear meteorological explanations, but...


Isn’t it incredible this week that we have the hottest uppers ever recorded over the U.K. - touching 25C tomorrow - and surface temperatures in the early to mid 20s.


Just look at the 850 chart for tomorrow.


 


That screams record breaking heatwave. It makes 10 August 2003 look like a moderately warm late summer day:


 


Utterly bonkers. Look how cool Africa is in 2003. One constant is how chilly Finland is in both cases.


We wuz robbed this week. Totally robbed.



Indeed. By looking at the charts you posted you would think that somewhere tomorrow could scrape a location record high temperature , be it a sheltered Scottish Glen or in the west somewhere.  But it doesn't look likely looking at the lower atmopheric charts.   


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27 June 2019 21:42:45

Meteo France has a red warning for high temperatures tomorrow in four departments in the south of the country. Most of the rest of the country is under an amber warning


Maximums of 45C expected in Nimes and Carpentras


http://vigilance.meteofrance.com/data/QGFR17_LFPW_.gif?2750595148840202


http://www.meteofrance.com/previsions-meteo-france/nimes/30000


http://www.meteofrance.com/previsions-meteo-france/carpentras/84200


French all time national record is 44.1C set in the August 2003 heatwave

Jiries
27 June 2019 21:48:13

Originally Posted by: Gusty 


Am I the only one thinking that Saturday's maximum forecast temperature of 33c is being underplayed ?


We are tapping into fierce continental heat that has been in place for a few days.


23c (850Hpa's) 576 dam, unbroken sunshine after a very warm night (heat starts to usher in Friday evening) on a light SE feed down here with the peak of the upper plume occuring around 3pm...hmmm I think 36c will be nearer the mark based on experience of these setups. 



We have to find out as we are not like in N America that you can get 22C then jump up to mid 30's due to large landmass but for here required several days of sunny weather and hotting up daily temps to the peak.   I am sure next week temperatures will be higher than this week failed heatwave and it already failed anyway.  Today estimated max v uppers would had been 34C and tomorrow 36-37C and Sat 38-40C. 

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