nsrobins
03 December 2018 11:15:17
The BBC which buys expertise from Meteogroup still going for a mild mobile December. A side mention of ‘slight risk’ of Easterly around the 10th-12th.
Sort of goes against what we’re seeing today but we’ll see.
Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
KevBrads1
03 December 2018 11:40:56


W COUNTRY: "A modest increase in the probability of colder-than- normal temperatures" for winter overall, suggest in their latest probabilistic outlook, with "the chances of cold weather related impacts, such as snow, highest in the later part of the outlook period


 


https://twitter.com/fergieweather/status/1069528439546204160


 


 



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Gavin D
03 December 2018 12:22:09
Met office

UK Outlook for Saturday 8 Dec 2018 to Monday 17 Dec 2018:

Bright but showery Saturday, with some heavy blustery showers in the north and west. Showers may affect the north and east on Sunday, whilst in the south and west there may be some more persistent rain for a time. Gales in the east at first ease during Sunday, but may return to the west later. During the rest of this period some longer drier, settled but cold spells are likely, with lighter winds (especially early next week). Any wet and windy weather is more likely to be confined to the north and west. This will bring overnight frosts and perhaps fog, especially for the south and east, but also a chance of some snow in the north. Some short-lived milder spells are likely, more especially from late next week onwards.

UK Outlook for Tuesday 18 Dec 2018 to Tuesday 1 Jan 2019:

This period may start with some settled, drier and colder weather, with overnight frosts and fog. Whilst there is a lot of uncertainty through the rest of the month, as Christmas approaches we may see a more general trend towards unsettled conditions returning, with spells of wetter and milder weather affecting many parts of the UK, and with a risk of gales at times. Any snow associated with these wet spells is more likely to be confined to hills in the north. Temperatures whilst starting below normal or cold, are likely to recover to be above average at times.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast 
Gandalf The White
03 December 2018 23:39:52

BBC News 24 forecast tonight (23.30) talked for the first time about a Scandi high next week and cold easterly winds.  Highlighted the uncertainty in the models but it's significant that the professionals think the risk is high enough to raise as a potential evolution.


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130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


DEW
  • DEW
  • Advanced Member
04 December 2018 06:43:39

Yellow snow in China (no, not what you're thinking, and no, the Express didn't make it up)


https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1053833/china-weather-yellow-snow-Xinjiang-freezing-temperatures-sandstorm-He-Qing


 


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ballamar
04 December 2018 09:20:43

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


BBC News 24 forecast tonight (23.30) talked for the first time about a Scandi high next week and cold easterly winds.  Highlighted the uncertainty in the models but it's significant that the professionals think the risk is high enough to raise as a potential evolution.



 


dont tell Ian

Gandalf The White
04 December 2018 11:30:13

Originally Posted by: ballamar 


 


 


dont tell Ian




I'm sure he will be on board shortly to highlight whichever model output shows the Atlantic winning.



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130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Gavin D
04 December 2018 12:35:38
Met office

UK Outlook for Sunday 9 Dec 2018 to Tuesday 18 Dec 2018:

Showers may affect the north and east on Sunday, whilst in the south and west there may be some more persistent rain for a time. Strong winds will also affect the northeast and southwest on Sunday. During the rest of this period some prolonged drier, settled but cold spells are likely, with lighter winds, especially early next week. Any wet and windy weather is more likely to be confined to the north and west. This will bring overnight frosts and perhaps fog, especially for the south and east, but also a chance of some snow in the north and west and possibly wintry showers in the east. Some unsettled milder spells are likely, more especially from late next week onwards.

UK Outlook for Wednesday 19 Dec 2018 to Wednesday 2 Jan 2019:

This period may start with some settled, drier and colder weather, with overnight frosts and fog. Whilst there is a lot of uncertainty through the rest of the month, as Christmas approaches we may see a more general trend towards unsettled conditions returning, with spells of wetter and milder weather affecting many parts of the UK, and with a risk of gales at times. Any snow associated with these wet spells is more likely to be confined to hills in the north. Temperatures whilst starting below normal or cold, are likely to recover to be above average at times, with fewer frosty nights.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast 
ballamar
04 December 2018 12:41:15
Slowly changing their stance with a little more uncertainty
Whiteout
04 December 2018 12:41:26

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

Met office

UK Outlook for Sunday 9 Dec 2018 to Tuesday 18 Dec 2018:

Showers may affect the north and east on Sunday, whilst in the south and west there may be some more persistent rain for a time. Strong winds will also affect the northeast and southwest on Sunday. During the rest of this period some prolonged drier, settled but cold spells are likely, with lighter winds, especially early next week. Any wet and windy weather is more likely to be confined to the north and west. This will bring overnight frosts and perhaps fog, especially for the south and east, but also a chance of some snow in the north and west and possibly wintry showers in the east. Some unsettled milder spells are likely, more especially from late next week onwards.

UK Outlook for Wednesday 19 Dec 2018 to Wednesday 2 Jan 2019:

This period may start with some settled, drier and colder weather, with overnight frosts and fog. Whilst there is a lot of uncertainty through the rest of the month, as Christmas approaches we may see a more general trend towards unsettled conditions returning, with spells of wetter and milder weather affecting many parts of the UK, and with a risk of gales at times. Any snow associated with these wet spells is more likely to be confined to hills in the north. Temperatures whilst starting below normal or cold, are likely to recover to be above average at times, with fewer frosty nights.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast


 


An improved update 


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Winter 22/23:

Snow falling days - 3
Snow lying days - 3
Gavin D
04 December 2018 20:17:13
Next week

Frost and fog
Cold easterly wind
Wintry showers

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/46447403 
Gavin D
05 December 2018 10:02:54

Gavin D
05 December 2018 10:16:52

BBC monthly outlook


Summary


Potentially stormy and wet for Christmas period



Wednesday 5 December—Sunday 9 December


Wet and breezy but often mild in the south.


The rest of this week looks to be unsettled with plenty of rain and cloud at times, and some breezy conditions mainly in the west. Wednesday will have a wet start for many, with a warm front bringing rain to most of England and Wales. Through the afternoon this rain will spread north into northern England and Scotland, while the cold front moves into the south-west. Rain will begin to clear from the west in the evening and overnight, with areas of mist or fog possible. It will be a mild night for most.


Thursday will see another frontal system moving into the UK from the west, bringing another round of widespread rain for most. Winds will be stronger with this front, especially for western and southern coasts. Overnight Thursday into Friday will see yet another frontal system move across the UK, bringing more wet and windy conditions for most. By Friday morning things are looking mostly dry for the south and east, with showers in the west. A low over Scotland will bring plenty of rain throughout the day, with occasional heavy bursts in the north.


The weekend continues the unsettled trend, with Saturday looking like the drier and brighter of the two days, as another frontal system moves through Sunday bringing rain for most and strong wind gusts in the west.




Monday 10 December—Sunday 16 December


Becoming cooler but drier, with showers midweek.


In the second full week of December, high pressure pushing north into Scandinavia will bring some cooler easterly winds for the UK with occasional showers in the east. Generally, a lot of cloud is likely at times while some of the showers in the east could turn wintry over high terrain. The best of any sunshine is likely to be in the west and northwest, particularly in Scotland. Temperatures are expected to be mostly below the seasonal average, but with a recovery to near-average temperatures possible over the weekend.


Indications are for wettest conditions to be over eastern areas of the UK midweek, with scattered showers drifting in on the chilly easterly breeze. The moors and other hilly spots will likely see wintry showers at times. It is also likely to be rather breezy across eastern and central areas, with some biting, chilly winds along the east coast. There is a slight risk of some of these wintry showers reaching low-lying areas in the east, particularly on Thursday. There is still a slight risk of a generally mild, wet and breezy pattern if the high pressure shifts further east into Russia, or fails to build strongly into Scandinavia. This would lead to more mild and unsettled weather with storms moving in from the west.




Monday 17 December—Sunday 30 December


Unsettled weather returns bringing mild air.


Indications are that the second half of the month will be characterised by wet, windy and mild conditions with a strong jet stream moving in from the Atlantic at times. The jet stream is a ribbon of strong winds in the upper atmosphere and helps to drive in weather systems that bring wet and windy conditions to the UK. Again, western areas of the UK are expected to be the wettest. There are indications that rainfall could be well-above normal for December, bringing a risk of flooding. Strong winds appear likely at times, perhaps most likely towards the end of the month.


However, the positioning of the jet stream will dictate where the wettest conditions will be. There are chances that the jet stream lifts northwards for a time before Christmas to bring a brief drier period of weather to southern areas. After Christmas, there appears to be some risk that the jet stream drifts further south, bringing a risk of colder conditions into northern parts of the UK. Anyone hoping for a white Christmas could end up being disappointed as milder air from the Atlantic will keep temperatures around or just above average. However, it is still far too early to say for certain what weather we will have on 25th December. Even in some of the mild Decembers of the past few decades, short-lived cold spells did crop up and even produced short spells of snow. A green Christmas is still not guaranteed ... although a white Christmas is looking increasingly less likely.




Next Update


We will have an updated look at what this waving jet stream may have in store for the holiday celebrations.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/outlook


Whiteout
05 December 2018 12:15:54

Sorry, can't post link, but another upgrade on the met office forecast 


Home/Work - Dartmoor
240m/785 ft asl

Winter 22/23:

Snow falling days - 3
Snow lying days - 3
Gavin D
05 December 2018 12:18:51
Met office

UK Outlook for Monday 10 Dec 2018 to Wednesday 19 Dec 2018:

Next week starts generally settled, especially so in the west, whilst scattered showers are likely in the east where they could be wintry at times. From mid week onwards the weather pattern becomes slow moving, with easterly winds developing and bringing showers to many parts, these possibly wintry away from coastal areas. Overnight frosts and patchy freezing fog are also likely at times. Any wet and windy weather is likely to be confined to the west and northwest, although rain may affect the south at times, bringing with it a risk of hill snow. Temperatures generally rather cold or cold, perhaps milder at times in the west, as well as in any brief unsettled spells.

UK Outlook for Thursday 20 Dec 2018 to Thursday 3 Jan 2019:

This period is likely to start with a mixture of weather, with spells of settled, drier and colder conditions with overnight frost and fog, but also with a chance of occasional bouts of windy and showery weather bringing a risk of snow. By Christmas and through the last week of December there is a more general trend towards unsettled conditions returning, with western areas seeing spells of windy, wet and milder weather, with the best of any drier but colder weather the east and south. By the New Year there is very low confidence in the forecast, but there are signs that weather patterns may become slow moving again, possibly bringing a period of colder and at times more settled weather conditions.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast 
Ally Pally Snowman
05 December 2018 12:27:29

Quite a big upgrade especially in the 2nd paragraph 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Rob K
05 December 2018 13:42:14
"This period is likely to start with a mixture of weather"

Sherlock award for the Met Office, please.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Gooner
05 December 2018 15:24:43

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Quite a big upgrade especially in the 2nd paragraph 



Agreed , improving 


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


tallyho_83
05 December 2018 18:47:29

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

Met office

UK Outlook for Monday 10 Dec 2018 to Wednesday 19 Dec 2018:

Next week starts generally settled, especially so in the west, whilst scattered showers are likely in the east where they could be wintry at times. From mid week onwards the weather pattern becomes slow moving, with easterly winds developing and bringing showers to many parts, these possibly wintry away from coastal areas. Overnight frosts and patchy freezing fog are also likely at times. Any wet and windy weather is likely to be confined to the west and northwest, although rain may affect the south at times, bringing with it a risk of hill snow. Temperatures generally rather cold or cold, perhaps milder at times in the west, as well as in any brief unsettled spells.

UK Outlook for Thursday 20 Dec 2018 to Thursday 3 Jan 2019:

This period is likely to start with a mixture of weather, with spells of settled, drier and colder conditions with overnight frost and fog, but also with a chance of occasional bouts of windy and showery weather bringing a risk of snow. By Christmas and through the last week of December there is a more general trend towards unsettled conditions returning, with western areas seeing spells of windy, wet and milder weather, with the best of any drier but colder weather the east and south. By the New Year there is very low confidence in the forecast, but there are signs that weather patterns may become slow moving again, possibly bringing a period of colder and at times more settled weather conditions.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast


Compared with the last paragraph during yesterday's update:


"Temperatures likely to recover to be above average at times, with fewer frosty nights."


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White Meadows
05 December 2018 20:56:24

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


">https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast


Compared with the last paragraph during yesterday's update:


"Temperatures likely to recover to be above average at times, with fewer frosty nights."


yes I noticed that too Tally. A sudden overnight flip- ...confidence, albeit low must have tipped the balance in favour of a cold outbreak after Christmas.


finally a respite from the bowels of the Atlantic....?...

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