johncs2016
13 June 2018 08:44:20

This looks quite interesting for here in Edinburgh as there is a hint from the chart below, that we could see temperatures get to above 25ºC here at the end of the month. Furthermore, you can normally add a couple of degrees onto that (at least, that is what Gavin P. always says in his videos) which means that you might be talking about temperatures of 27-28ºC here if that came off.


Of course, that.is only an outlier, and is in the extended unreliable time frame. However, I have said before that we are capable of getting those sorts of temperatures here if we have a decent SSW airflow with high pressure fairly close by. Therefore, this does ask the question of whether or not, this might be the time when this actually happens. and when we therefore get our turn here on the east coast to get some decent summer heat instead of that all being further west as it has been recently.



The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Ally Pally Snowman
13 June 2018 09:14:59

Think some are being unduly pessimistic.  Forget the inconsistent ecm Op for now the Mean is very good. it's not June 76 but is much better than average temps mid 20s in the south mainly dry away form the far NW. Could be much much worse.


 


http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem1921.html


 


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speckledjim
13 June 2018 10:18:39

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Think some are being unduly pessimistic.  Forget the inconsistent ecm Op for now the Mean is very good. it's not June 76 but is much better than average temps mid 20s in the south mainly dry away form the far NW. Could be much much worse.


 


http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem1921.html


 



 


Yes, the outlook is none too bad considering June is often the 'monsoon' month


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Joe Bloggs
13 June 2018 11:42:36

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Think some are being unduly pessimistic.  Forget the inconsistent ecm Op for now the Mean is very good. it's not June 76 but is much better than average temps mid 20s in the south mainly dry away form the far NW. Could be much much worse.


 


http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem1921.html


 



After such an amazing May (and June for so many of us so far), it’s a miracle that at this stage we’re not seeing a barrage of lows pushing across the UK for weeks on end. 


For that reason alone I’m feeling quite optimistic. 



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Rob K
13 June 2018 12:11:44

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Looks quite nondescript to me. 160 for 4 at the tea interval and a bit more life in the pitch than looked likely before start of play. Could go either way. All to play for.


 



 


Annoyingly the one significant rain spike for ages and it falls right on Saturday afternoon when we really need a dry day for a family party!


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Lionel Hutz
13 June 2018 12:27:51

https://www.met.ie/warnings


It seems that we have a named storm, Storm Hector. Only of interest to Irish West coast and possibly Scotland also, though.


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Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



johncs2016
13 June 2018 12:52:12

Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


https://www.met.ie/warnings


It seems that we have a named storm, Storm Hector. Only of interest to Irish West coast and possibly Scotland also, though.



Well, there we go. I did say on today's current conditions thread that this approaching weather system would probably be classed as a named storm if this happened during the winter. From what I can see now though, it doesn't seem to matter what time of year that they happen in although this is probably the first time that we've had a named storm during the summer when I would have expected these things to be very rare.


On a side note though and since you are an Irishman, I was wondering what you think about the redesign of the Met Eireann's website. If I was an Irishman, I would be disappointed because the old site at least had the green colour which is traditionally associated with Ireland whereas now, that has been replaced by what I see as a rather horrible looking blue colour. What do you think?


 


 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
TimS
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13 June 2018 13:13:34
160 for 4 at tea, but after s long session with the spinners the new ball is due and Hector is warming up on the boundary to deliver the first over.
Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Lionel Hutz
13 June 2018 13:35:24

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 


 


Well, there we go. I did say on today's current conditions thread that this approaching weather system would probably be classed as a named storm if this happened during the winter. From what I can see now though, it doesn't seem to matter what time of year that they happen in although this is probably the first time that we've had a named storm during the summer when I would have expected these things to be very rare.


On a side note though and since you are an Irishman, I was wondering what you think about the redesign of the Met Eireann's website. If I was an Irishman, I would be disappointed because the old site at least had the green colour which is traditionally associated with Ireland whereas now, that has been replaced by what I see as a rather horrible looking blue colour. What do you think?


 


 



I found the older website a little more user friendly to be honest, but maybe with time I'll get used to the new one. I'm not overly bothered about the colour, to be honest. The only major issue that I have with it is that the rainfall radar history now only goes back a couple of hours whereas it used to go back a good bit further - the longer history was good for letting you see how a rain system was developing etc.


I do think that it's a decent website. It gives good information on recent weather:https://www.met.ie/latest-reports/observations/yesterday , current conditions,https://www.met.ie/latest-reports/observations and excellent monthly data https://www.met.ie/climate/available-data/monthly-data . It really gives a wealth of information - not sure if you have the equivalent in Scotland or the UK? My only beef is that there's no station really close to me. 


 


Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



johncs2016
13 June 2018 16:00:21

Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


 


I found the older website a little more user friendly to be honest, but maybe with time I'll get used to the new one. I'm not overly bothered about the colour, to be honest. The only major issue that I have with it is that the rainfall radar history now only goes back a couple of hours whereas it used to go back a good bit further - the longer history was good for letting you see how a rain system was developing etc.


I do think that it's a decent website. It gives good information on recent weather:https://www.met.ie/latest-reports/observations/yesterday , current conditions,https://www.met.ie/latest-reports/observations and excellent monthly data https://www.met.ie/climate/available-data/monthly-data . It really gives a wealth of information - not sure if you have the equivalent in Scotland or the UK? My only beef is that there's no station really close to me. 


 



Anyone who knows me well enough will know that I would be more than happy if Scotland had its own Met service with its own website. Since that isn't the case though, we have to make do with the UK Met Office site just like everyone else in the UK. Within that, the nearest thing to what you have described is the Met Office observations site at wow.metoffice.gov.uk. That site is a bit more complicated and less user-friendly by once you know you what you are doing, you can get up to a month's worth of data from that at a time from any given weather station.


 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Chunky Pea
13 June 2018 16:06:49

Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


 


I found the older website a little more user friendly to be honest, but maybe with time I'll get used to the new one. I'm not overly bothered about the colour, to be honest. The only major issue that I have with it is that the rainfall radar history now only goes back a couple of hours whereas it used to go back a good bit further - the longer history was good for letting you see how a rain system was developing etc.


I do think that it's a decent website. It gives good information on recent weather:https://www.met.ie/latest-reports/observations/yesterday , current conditions,https://www.met.ie/latest-reports/observations and excellent monthly data https://www.met.ie/climate/available-data/monthly-data . It really gives a wealth of information - not sure if you have the equivalent in Scotland or the UK? My only beef is that there's no station really close to me. 


 



Not a fan of the new website at all. Like yourself, I found the old site much more user friendly and like John, I hate that dark blue colour theme. It's almost invasive. And despite living nowhere near the place, current and recent historical data always reverts back to Dublin, despite entering my own location. 


Current Conditions
https://t.ly/MEYqg 


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Whether Idle
13 June 2018 18:30:55

ECM wanting to nudge the yellows back in next week:



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Arcus
13 June 2018 18:48:44
Phasing of the lows and interaction with the jet is notoriously difficult to resolve on the models at the T+120 plus range, so although we look like having a more unsettled few days I'm not placing too much faith beyond that inter- and intra- run. The propensity for blocking to try and reassert from the Azores is clearly there in the mid to longer term - any "gap in the traffic" could easily set up another long-lasting block.
Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Lionel Hutz
13 June 2018 20:26:30

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


 


Not a fan of the new website at all. Like yourself, I found the old site much more user friendly and like John, I hate that dark blue colour theme. It's almost invasive. And despite living nowhere near the place, current and recent historical data always reverts back to Dublin, despite entering my own location. 



Dublin can be a bit of a bugbear for most of us in the rest of Ireland at times, I think! My location seems to default to Tipperary for some reason.(Sorry, mods, o-t, I know) 


Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



TimS
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13 June 2018 20:49:31

Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


 


Dublin can be a bit of a bugbear for most of us in the rest of Ireland at times, I think! My location seems to default to Tipperary for some reason.(Sorry, mods, o-t, I know) 



That’s a long way.


Sorry.


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Lionel Hutz
14 June 2018 07:41:49

Originally Posted by: TimS 


 


That’s a long way.


Sorry.




https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/ecmwf.aspx?modelrun=na&charthour=24&chartname=mslp500&chartregion=na-region


Signs of the Azores High building northward next week to bring back the settled conditions? 


Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



TimS
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14 June 2018 18:44:30
So the first over of the new ball passed off with a few hairy moments in Scotland but the last 2 balls were driven beautifully to the cover boundary.

Hoping for some nice cuts and pulls over the next few overs before the field spreads out again.
Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Whether Idle
14 June 2018 20:45:30

ECM again in the 12zs offers the prospect of a very pleasant week for the southern half at least: With real heat a possibility if this verifies.


Chart image


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TimS
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15 June 2018 07:35:31
Things seem to have deteriorated overnight in the models. This is a bit of a rollercoaster.

GEFS now averaging around the mean long term after trending to very warm in yesterday’s runs.

Compare this:

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/show_diagrams.php?geoid=49069&model=gfs&var=201&run=0&lid=ENS&bw= 

With yesterday’s 12z:

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/show_diagrams.php?geoid=49069&model=gfs&var=201&run=12&lid=ENS&bw= 

ECM is back to its recent tricks of Northwesterly jet borne lows squashing ridging until we end up with a central Atlantic high:

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=ecm&var=2&time=0&run=0&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=24 

Crossing my fingers for another reversal.
Brockley, South East London 30m asl
TimS
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15 June 2018 13:43:55

JFF, 384z - This would make for a fairly warm day in France:



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