wingman
15 March 2018 09:20:37

Originally Posted by: soperman 


Fax chart for Sunday shows promise if you want 



As a fellow Saints fan heading up to Wigan from Oxfordshire on Sunday I have mixed feelings about this!


 

soperman
15 March 2018 09:34:09

Originally Posted by: wingman 


 


As a fellow Saints fan heading up to Wigan from Oxfordshire on Sunday I have mixed feelings about this!


 



 


Well - at this stage it looks like the South will get a tonking - weatherwise of course!!  COYR

Gavin D
15 March 2018 09:47:40

ECM 00z shows milder air moving in during the mid to latter part of next week


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By the end of the week, temps fall a bit again as low pressure closes in


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fairweather
15 March 2018 09:57:11

Originally Posted by: Scottish Kierdog 


 


 


Noosa is lovely isn't it. Much prefer weekend drives to the North of Brisbane rather than the more touristy Gold Coast. Mind you some of the tablelands around the Gold Coast are beautiful, and much cooler in the hills.


The cricket often starts around late November early December which is the traditional super cell season, so you'll usually get some cracker of storms during the ashes etc.



Stoppit ! I want to come back for a 5th time  I also went to Sydney a few times and Adelaide for the Ashes in 2005-6 but my favourite area is still Cairns to Brisbane down the Bruce Highway and popping over to a Whit Sunday Island or two 


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tallyho_83
15 March 2018 10:04:53

Originally Posted by: Fargo 

Inevitable "upgrades" in PPN accumulations and distribution this morning with the high res models now coming into play. There will always be more snow than models initially suggest in these circumstances as they don't handle the convective stuff well (obviously). Think those in the SE and CS areas could be really surprised by this. Snow won't hang around that long but it could be extremely disruptive for short periods.


 


True like last easterly. Not to mention storm Emma . It was on the day of the blizzard that the met issued a rare red warning for parts of the SW.


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hobensotwo
15 March 2018 10:27:11
The cold slightly further North on this run in comparison to the 00z? Either that or the cold pool is slightly narrower, meaning I now just get a brief flirt with the -10 850 iso.

Not sure if that little shortwave @ ~T42 just off Brest has anything to do with it. That was not there on the 00Z.

Still there looks to be a fair bit of wintry ppn arround in the channel, its just whether surface conditions are conducive enough to allow it to settle. I guess only time will tell.

jhall
15 March 2018 10:36:42

Originally Posted by: hobensotwo 

The cold slightly further North on this run in comparison to the 00z? Either that or the cold pool is slightly narrower, meaning I now just get a brief flirt with the -10 850 iso.

Not sure if that little shortwave @ ~T42 just off Brest has anything to do with it. That was not there on the 00Z.

Still there looks to be a fair bit of wintry ppn around in the channel, its just whether surface conditions are conducive enough to allow it to settle. I guess only time will tell.



I can exclusively reveal that it won't settle on the surface of the Channel. 🙂 To be serious, it could depend on whether the wind is such that air reaches the Channel Islands from across the Cherbourg Peninsula, or whether it's more NEly so that it comes down the whole length of the Channel.


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Saint Snow
15 March 2018 10:37:26

Originally Posted by: wingman 


As a fellow Saints fan heading up to Wigan from Oxfordshire on Sunday I have mixed feelings about this!



 


I'm a rugby league fan (of a different 'Saints') and you don't know how confusing that post was to me when I first read it.


 



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squish
15 March 2018 11:06:01

Murr sausage?


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2018031506/gfsnh-0-156.png?6


 


 



...then cold from NW for rest of month on 06z


 


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tallyho_83
15 March 2018 11:54:08

ICON DAYTIME MAX for many parts of the UK are at -1 or -2c on Sunday: Perhaps another ice day for some!?



 


GFS SLIGHTLY MILDER WITH DAYTIME MAXES OF -1 TO +1C:



 


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Lionel Hutz
15 March 2018 11:56:28

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


ICON DAYTIME MAX for many parts of the UK are at -1 or -2c on Sunday: Perhaps another ice day for some!?



 


GFS SLIGHTLY MILDER WITH DAYTIME MAXES OF -1 TO +1C:



 



At this time of year, whether you make an ice day or not will depend on cloud levels. An overcast day and some could well see one. I wonder what is the latest ever ice day at low altitude?


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Downpour
15 March 2018 14:13:25

Originally Posted by: Fargo 

Inevitable "upgrades" in PPN accumulations and distribution this morning with the high res models now coming into play. There will always be more snow than models initially suggest in these circumstances as they don't handle the convective stuff well (obviously). Think those in the SE and CS areas could be really surprised by this. Snow won't hang around that long but it could be extremely disruptive for short periods.


 


Yes looking like a proper wintry blast for the final weekend of winter*


 


*The seasons are set by the cosmos, not by the Met Office... Roll on spring!


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tallyho_83
15 March 2018 14:15:22

I wonder if this second cold spell is due to the second SSW - we did have two SSW both were major really. Is this cold spell a result of the second SSW, ie two SSW's = two cold spells? or is it because we are in a negative NA0?


 


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Hungry Tiger
15 March 2018 14:38:09

Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


 


At this time of year, whether you make an ice day or not will depend on cloud levels. An overcast day and some could well see one. I wonder what is the latest ever ice day at low altitude?



Late March 2013 - as I recall somewhere in the region of 25th March 2013.


 


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Whether Idle
15 March 2018 15:29:40

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


 


Late March 2013 - as I recall somewhere in the region of 25th March 2013.


 



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jhall
15 March 2018 17:04:45

Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


 


At this time of year, whether you make an ice day or not will depend on cloud levels. An overcast day and some could well see one. I wonder what is the latest ever ice day at low altitude?



I don't know, but the latest in the CET daily series (which I believe is averaged over three sites), going back to 1878, is 6th March, 1942. So if one occurred on Sunday, which must be a real possibility, it would be the latest by 12 days, which would be an astonishing margin.


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jhall
15 March 2018 17:07:41

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


I wonder if this second cold spell is due to the second SSW - we did have two SSW both were major really. Is this cold spell a result of the second SSW, ie two SSW's = two cold spells? or is it because we are in a negative NA0?


 



I think it was probably one SSW with two phases. And I think the negative NAO is the result of the SSW; prior to late February it was pretty positive.


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The Beast from the East
15 March 2018 17:13:40

www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=384&mode=0


 


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Retron
15 March 2018 17:21:02

Originally Posted by: jhall 


I think it was probably one SSW with two phases. And I think the negative NAO is the result of the SSW; prior to late February it was pretty positive.



One SSW with three dips.


http://users.met.fu-berlin.de/~Aktuell/strat-www/wdiag/figs/ecmwf1/fluxes.gif


Looks like another (minor, very brief) one coming up too.


 


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chiversa56
15 March 2018 17:36:00

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=384&mode=0


 


GFS Fi showing Beast 3, "the final showdown" in cinemas for Easter



My son lives in Sydney , so i like to compare maps by pressing the Australia/NZ 'domaine' button at the top especially as he is coming over for Easter he is going to get quite a shock!


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