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Saint Snow
29 May 2024 12:22:34
No real change in the medium-term from both GFS and ECM. The same broad evolution is that, by Friday, high pressure builds towards and over the UK from the west, then retreats back westwards through next week as a low moves over the top of the high and sinks SSE'wards down the North Sea/Scandi, spinning fronts southwards down the UK. 

GEM has now shifted to the GFS/GEM evolution, so all three are in agreement.

GFS then builds the high in again for the following weekend, but then migrates it northwards as a big low makes a more conventional approach from the west.

GEM rather unhelpfully spins a secondary low off the main low to give us a repeat soaking.

 


Martin

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Aneurin Bevan

picturesareme
29 May 2024 12:56:18

Is that from the Saharan sand?

😄😉

 

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

😂 

*Rogue*

cultman1
29 May 2024 13:53:46
It does seem we are in for at best mixed weather over the next 2-3 weeks with potentially below average temperatures for the bulk of the U.K. I see various articles are appearing over the internet pertaining to a poor summer but await with interest Brian's forecast .....
GezM
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29 May 2024 15:56:47

It does seem we are in for at best mixed weather over the next 2-3 weeks with potentially below average temperatures for the bulk of the U.K. I see various articles are appearing over the internet pertaining to a poor summer but await with interest Brian's forecast .....

Originally Posted by: cultman1 

The next week or so has reasonable agreement across GFS and ECM, beyond that things become unclear with various options on the table some of which would bring warmer air to our shores, either in a settled or unsettled pattern. With the way this whole year has gone so far, I think I know which option my money is on! 


Living in St Albans, Herts (116m asl)

Working at Luton Airport, Beds (160m asl)

briggsy6
29 May 2024 20:17:50
Louise Lear promising "a week's dry weather" on the BBC earlier. Temps only reaching 20-22c though. Will these be upgraded as time goes on I wonder?
Location: Uxbridge
White Meadows
30 May 2024 05:18:37
The cool wet conditions look firmly bedding in again after a couple of warmish brighter days this weekend. That nagging wind is also making a return making it feel cooler still. 

Is June set for the bin? It certainly looks like summer buggered off early last July and nowhere in sight for the foreseeable. 

 

DEW
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30 May 2024 07:15:53
WX temp charts - W Europe warming up while E Europe & Scandinavia cooling down - by week 2 Finland quite cool but hot in S Germany and Czechia, some of the latter, albeit diminished, heading for England. Rain in week 1 for Germany, N Italy and points NE from there; in week 2 for France, England and Germany. Really dry areas limited and scattered.

GFS Op - HP slowly moving in from the west displacing the current shallow trough reaching maximum extent Mon 3rd but thereafter less persistent than shown yesterday and retreating W-wards (as ECM suggested yesterday). Pressure then remains fairly high over Britain but with LPs approaching alternately the N (Wed 5th in Norwegian Sea, Mon 10th Faeroes ) and the S (Fri 7th, Cornwall,  Wed 12th, Brittany) before retreating again. Finally a generally lower pressure from Fri 14th.

ECM - resembles GFS at first but the LP on Wed 5th is deeper and closer with brisk NW-lies for Scotland. It then links up with the LP in the S so by Sat 8th there is a trough extending down the whole E Coast.

GEM - matches ECM with a deeper LP on the 5th but then differs from both the above with HP building in strongly from the SW by Sat 8th.

GEFS - temps near norm and mainly dry (except some rain in the S at first) until Wed 5th with good agreement of ens members. Then an immediate spread of outcomes balanced between 6C above and below norm in the S but agreement on a rather cool period in the north for 4 or 5 days. Everywhere except the SW has an increasing number of runs with some rain after the 5th. 


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Hungry Tiger
30 May 2024 11:42:34

The cool wet conditions look firmly bedding in again after a couple of warmish brighter days this weekend. That nagging wind is also making a return making it feel cooler still. 

Is June set for the bin? It certainly looks like summer buggered off early last July and nowhere in sight for the foreseeable. 

 

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 

I'm going for a poor summer this year. After some of the incredible hot spells in summers this 4 or 5 years a bad summer must be on the cards. There doesn't seem like any good spells on the cards this next 3 weeks.  I'd be surprised if there weren't any decent spells at all though.   🙂 


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GezM
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30 May 2024 11:57:43

I'm going for a poor summer this year. After some of the incredible hot spells in summers this 4 or 5 years a bad summer must be on the cards. There doesn't seem like any good spells on the cards this next 3 weeks.  I'd be surprised if there weren't any decent spells at all though.   🙂 

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 

Whether it's dry and sunny or cloudy and wet, I'd say there is a strong chance of CETs being above the 81-10 mean. 


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Working at Luton Airport, Beds (160m asl)

picturesareme
30 May 2024 13:04:30

The cool wet conditions look firmly bedding in again after a couple of warmish brighter days this weekend. That nagging wind is also making a return making it feel cooler still. 

Is June set for the bin? It certainly looks like summer buggered off early last July and nowhere in sight for the foreseeable. 

 

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 

Cool? i mean this week has been a little unsettled but 4/7 days have reached at least 20C, and only one failed to reach 18C. For late May that's at least average perhaps a little above! 

 

Saint Snow
30 May 2024 13:24:38
Last summer was pretty poor, well July and August were at least (my pics of those two months show a lot of hoodie-wearing and one in late Aug with my eldest wearing a coat, plus lots of wet ground).

Then some pics of us paddleboarding on Ullswater in early Sept and me in shorts/t-shirt.

I think we're due a decent summer - and I'm basing this on nothing but a theory that this spring has been unusually unsettled throughout, stemming from some similarly unusual synoptics, and so I've a hunch we'll get more settled weather through the summer, especially in July & August.


Martin

Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)

A TWO addict since 14/12/01

"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."

Aneurin Bevan

cultman1
30 May 2024 14:19:57
Well this week has been well below average in Fulham with a keen cool NW wind and the weekend and early next week whilst drier is looking pretty average at best temperature wise 
Osprey
30 May 2024 14:29:11
The weather is like a ship stuck in the doldrums I'm relaxed that the "wind" will pick up soon. It usually does...
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Rob K
30 May 2024 14:49:59
GEM once again looks the most encouraging model today (based on the 0Z run). GFS 6Z manages to keep the UK stuck in a loop of the jet pretty much constantly for the next fortnight.
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Jiries
30 May 2024 14:52:59

Well this week has been well below average in Fulham with a keen cool NW wind and the weekend and early next week whilst drier is looking pretty average at best temperature wise 

Originally Posted by: cultman1 

METO will say no to you and issue you well above average nonsense as they rely too much on night temps to cheat and show off UK is warming up well among other countries when in reality is not true for day time, sun hours and wetness.   With the up coming settled spell expectijng temps to be in the 20-22C range as sun now at near highest point.

Chunky Pea
30 May 2024 15:55:09

Cool? i mean this week has been a little unsettled but 4/7 days have reached at least 20C, and only one failed to reach 18C. For late May that's at least average perhaps a little above! 

 

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

About 13c here today and it doesn't feel anyway cool at all. Would love if it stayed at these temps all Summer. 


Patrick,

East Galway, Ireland.

Saint Snow
30 May 2024 16:08:08

About 13c here today and it doesn't feel anyway cool at all. Would love if it stayed at these temps all Summer. 

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 

How did I know that the 'Like' would be from Retron 😁


Martin

Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)

A TWO addict since 14/12/01

"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."

Aneurin Bevan

Ally Pally Snowman
30 May 2024 19:28:44
Shocking output for the start of June. Wet and cool . HLB hanging around like a bad smell.

 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Ally Pally Snowman
30 May 2024 21:00:22
Looks like we can write off first 10 days of June. If HLB doesn't go away we could be on for a 60s Summer.  Wet and cool. 
Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Saint Snow
30 May 2024 21:09:53

we could be on for a 60s Summer. 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

Are you talking about the decade or the expected temps in Fahrenheit?

😊


Martin

Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)

A TWO addict since 14/12/01

"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."

Aneurin Bevan

White Meadows
30 May 2024 22:07:46

About 13c here today and it doesn't feel anyway cool at all. Would love if it stayed at these temps all Summer. 

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 

Be nice if it didn’t feel cool in less than double layers though, eh?

I stand firm in that this June is not going to be ‘flaming’ in the slightest. 

 

Gandalf The White
30 May 2024 22:11:51

Be nice if it didn’t feel cool in less than double layers though, eh?

I stand firm in that this June is not going to be ‘flaming’ in the slightest. 

 

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 

Which models go out over a month, let alone with any accuracy?


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Chunky Pea
30 May 2024 23:04:08

Be nice if it didn’t feel cool in less than double layers though, eh?

I stand firm in that this June is not going to be ‘flaming’ in the slightest. 

 

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 

Not a fan of double layers no matter the season or temp. Today was very comfortable in a teeshirt. Not cold, not warm. Stiff enough breeze to prevent the air from becoming stagnant. 


Patrick,

East Galway, Ireland.

picturesareme
31 May 2024 01:26:44

About 13c here today and it doesn't feel anyway cool at all. Would love if it stayed at these temps all Summer. 

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 

It's 2:30am and its still just about warmer than that. It would make for an awful day time high at this time of year... unless you're retron.

White Meadows
31 May 2024 05:08:25

It's 2:30am and its still just about warmer than that. It would make for an awful day time high at this time of year... unless you're retron.

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

Sadly though this typifies the story of spring 24: mild nights and lack of any proper daytime warmth. Just a soup of boring low teens, often windy, wet and mostly dull. 

currently the pattern looks locked in for at least a fortnight as others have said, most likely due to HLB and absence our old friend the Azores High. 

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