Likewise - my post about how warm it's been relates to down here (again, replying to Fairweather's mention of how cold it's been). While acknowledging how cold it's been in much of Scotland (they pinched our easterlies! 😉), I do wonder how much moaning would ensue if we had even an average spring month for once down here, let alone a cold one!

...and the wildlife certainly isn't suffering down here. At least 2 pairs of pigeons are nesting in the old plum tree in my garden, and when I was mowing the lawn earlier the garden was buzzing with bees, hoverflies, normal flies and a few butterflies. It's been so warm, in fact, that everything seems ahead of itself!

No apologies needed and you are quite right to highlight the warmth. 

Slightly off-topic, but I wonder how much the SWW(s) have caused this spring’s unsettled conditions (southerly tracking low pressure). Hopefully there are tentative signs that this pattern may be ending or at least easing.

Hmm... IIRC we'd been having those southerly-tracking lows since last autumn, a long time before the SSWs happened. It's why it's been the stormiest winter for many years down here and is why it's been so wet.

It could be that the recent prolonged SSW has prolonged the pattern beyond its natural ending, but we'll never know for sure! What I do know is that zonal winds at 10hPa/60N rebounded and are, for the first time in months, a fair bit stronger than normal. The "final warming" will be a fortnight late this year which, in theory, means the "European monsoon" would be pushed back further into June than normal... but who knows these days, the old rules no longer seem to apply.

https://charts.ecmwf.int/products/extended-zonal-mean-zonal-wind?area=nh&base_time=202404090000 

Yes, you’re probably right, perhaps it just exacerbated the issue.

I sometimes think that broader scale weather patterns become locked in their own momentum. 

I'll believe it when it is much closer in the timeframe ..... 

Perhaps won't happen at all or if does will be not enough recovery to restore to normal state which require severeal months so not possible anymre with the stupid global warming making UK climate more colder, wetter and duller than average.

You really shouldn't have moved north... it's been another dry day down here, washing dried and the lawns mowed in the sunshine - before it got too strong.

And the UK's climate is getting warmer, of course, not colder, as the lack of snow and repeated heat records show... YOUR view of it is colder, as you're comparing it to the SE. 😉

Anyway, the models continue to show high pressure having more of an influence... at this rate, could well be a drier than average month quite widely down here (turns out the 7mm from the storms the other day was very localised, less than a mm just a few miles east or west).

No difference from here to the south coast as I read alot on NW south coast posters also saying how duller, colder and wetter as everywhere in the UK.  Only get warmer with false warm night temps to use to cheat and claim UK getting warmer when actually not true.  

But it's been accompanied mostly by abnormally grey skies and high rainfall plus a lack of individual very warm days which makes it much less noticed and tabloid friendly ! 

GFS Op - Current HP over France moves W to mid-Atlantic with wind direction for Britain going round from SW to W to NW to N by Wed 17th. Pressure remains high to the W of Britain through to Wed 24th while LP develops over Belarus, so some chilly winds off the N Sea. The HP then retreats to Greenland and an extended trough develops from Norway to S France between that and HP intensifying over Russia. Hence strong NE-lies for all of Britain after the 24th.

ECM - begins to differ from GFS at the end of its run with HP after Wed 17th moving in from the Atlantic, rather than standing off,  to become centred 1035mb Irish Sea Sun 21st, and significantly deeper LP over Belarus.

GEFS - temps dropping sharply from mild to cool Sun 14th (min ca 4C below norm on 17th), and only recovering slowly, slower than shown yesterday and indeed the mean never quite gets above norm through to Sun 27th. At that time the op run is coldest and about 8C below norm, and supported also by the control run in the N. Dry for the most part throughout the period esp in SW, occasional small rainfall peaks further N and W.

https://modeles16.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2024041100/gfs-2-312.png?0 

Looks like April 1981 all over again.

Must be a localised thing for Kent as we're already approaching the monthly rainfall average here. Temperature wise it's been fairly nondescript for April.. some chilly nights but a couple of warm days in the mix. Sunshine has been lacking just like most of the year so far.

Any chance of lowland southern england snow?

or is everything still day 10?

Did you somehow forget to hit ‘Post’ when you were last here 3 weeks ago?

It snowed 3 years to the day ,today.

Whats the issue?

April is the snowiest month in southern england

Winter only ended march 21 😉

👍👍👍

Certainly not before time either. The wet period we have had since last summer/autumn has at times been like 2012 all over again, and the very wet period we had then lasted a similar length of time from what I remember.

Still holding out for the first high teens Celsius, let alone 20!

pretty astonishing for mid April in these ‘modern times’.

And the Beeb long ranger alludes to an unusual polar vortex. 

GFS Op - as yesterday, HP over France moving out into the Atlantic with winds backing from SW round to N by Wed 17th with Britain on the edge of LP covering much of NW Europe. The Atlantic HP then moves E-wards across Britain to cover all but the far NE 1020mb Sat 20th but declines leaving Britain in a col between LPs in Baltic and Biscay. The Baltic end of this trough takes over, at first projecting NE-lies into Britain and then moving SW-wards to reach Holland 1005mb Fri 26th and sticking their with its imported cooler air affecting England while HP south of Iceland offers fine weather for Scotland.

ECM - something like GFS until Wed 17th though the concluding N-lies for this period are stronger under the influence of a better-defined LP moving from Faeroes to Denmark Mon 15th/Tue 16th. The subsequent HP remains further to the west of Britain to Sat 20th with a N-ly cast to the weather, and only at end of run Mon 22nd does the HP begin to move E-wards with the LP then setting up over Ukraine rather than the Baltic.

GEFS - mild dropping to cool Sun 14th and slowly recovering to just below norm in the SE Sat 20th even somewhat above elsewhere, esp in the N, after which the modest amount of agreement between ens members disappears. The mean then stays a couple of degrees below norm throughout. By Fri 26th both op and control are the coldest at about 7C below having been milder earlier. Small amounts of rain at any time generally.

This is heading for this dull wet and static temps climate we having now with no variety or seasonal weather days anymore. 

Each of GFS, ECM & GEM are showing high pressure in the vicinity of the British Isles from around the middle of next week. This has been a pretty persistent signal in the models for several days that has firmed-up as we've got closer.

All are now showing the high locating to the west of/over Ireland and remaining around there for at least a week.

It's going to be cool, with a flow from the north - but not a 'screaming cold northerly'. And hey, it's mid-April, so I couldn't give a monkeys if it's chilly. And it's going to be less settled the further east in the country you are, with the North Sea coasts likely not faring particularly well. 

But for you (and me! 😀) and the rest of the western half of the UK plus most of the South (away from EA/the far SE) the weather will likely be mostly settled.