Jiries
21 June 2018 06:13:27

Originally Posted by: Retron 

Nice to see that despite some of the dafter charts, ECM shows the chance of 30C in, say, Reading is minimal:

https://weather.us/forecast/2639577-reading/ensemble/euro

Also nice to see a general easterly waft is expected. That should be reinforced by a sea breeze IMBY and keep the hot stuff at bay.

A sustained warm spell does look likely, but at the present the silly end of the scale is most unlikely.


This morning ensembles look so dry but slow warm up than quickie heat runs so I am happy with it and with 13C to 14C uppers I can able to see 30C or 31C as I did recorded 33C last June when uppers was 14C.  The ground is very dry so heating up are easier to achieve.  So good now but need to ensure guarantee that by mid July not to lose our summer like last year so good first half.  Ensembles will tell us when it come to mid july date line appearing or when school holiday date line appear.  Dangerous point those dates and hope we passed it without northern blocking to attack us.


 

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21 June 2018 06:30:29
This morning is definitely seeing an evolution towards a cooler but high pressure dominated pattern. A brief flirtation with 30C towards the end of the week but nothing unusually hot.

Those charts of a couple of days ago were probably always going to be the peak. At least we don’t, yet, seem to be evolving towards a wet breakdown.
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21 June 2018 06:44:47

Originally Posted by: TimS 

This morning is definitely seeing an evolution towards a cooler but high pressure dominated pattern. A brief flirtation with 30C towards the end of the week but nothing unusually hot.

Those charts of a couple of days ago were probably always going to be the peak. At least we don’t, yet, seem to be evolving towards a wet breakdown.


'Less hot' perhaps  Don't mind if we don't hit 30C if it means we stay drier and sunnier for longer. We tend to break down quicker if we import some sultry air from the continent.


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marco 79
21 June 2018 08:04:10
00z GFS op runs the heights further northeast..allowing a NE flow in the latter timeframe....peak of the warmest temps look likely a week today...Onshore winds on East coast cool things down there...again highest temps further west....but all can change....looks pretty dry though for the next 10-14 days
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21 June 2018 10:47:04

06z continues the downgrade trend. We're now talking about a pleasant warm week rather than a heatwave, but with a possible reload the week after. Quite a contrast from yesterday morning when things were looking 1976-esque.


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Joe Bloggs
21 June 2018 11:09:54

I think it looks absolutely wonderful. People need to quit their whinging :D


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU06_144_1.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/UKMOPEU00_144_1.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/ECMOPEU00_144_1.png



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Brian Gaze
21 June 2018 11:12:23

Originally Posted by: TimS 


06z continues the downgrade trend. We're now talking about a pleasant warm week rather than a heatwave, but with a possible reload the week after. Quite a contrast from yesterday morning when things were looking 1976-esque.



I still expect to see 30C exceeded week. You can usually add a couple of C to the GFS raw output.



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picturesareme
21 June 2018 11:57:20

Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


I think it looks absolutely wonderful. People need to quit their whinging :D


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU06_144_1.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/UKMOPEU00_144_1.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/ECMOPEU00_144_1.png



I think it's because it might not hit 30C in the home counties..


Those charts would deliver 30C down here on the South coast and likely also parts of Wales and the South West.

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21 June 2018 12:30:01
It’s all relative. If yesterday we’d been looking at wet and windy weather I’d have been delighted today. As it is, we were looking at mid 30s and are now in the high 20s, which will be lovely but not epoch defining.
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cultman1
21 June 2018 12:59:39
TimS You obviously favour our usual summer weather patterns reading your continual pessimistic viewpoints when the weather is shaping up for potential heat and sun a rarity in the UK . I certainly welcome next week with open arms and hope it lasts for a reasonable length of time
BBC radio 4 radio weather at 1 pm advised that next week some parts of the country will certainly reach 30 degrees which is excellent news
bledur
21 June 2018 13:14:50

I just dont get how 30 degrees and sultry heat is so exciting. A pleasant summer,s day of 25 degrees and comfotrtable humidity is far more enjoyable I wonder what a poll would reveal ?

Chunky Pea
21 June 2018 13:51:21

Originally Posted by: bledur 


I just dont get how 30 degrees and sultry heat is so exciting. A pleasant summer,s day of 25 degrees and comfotrtable humidity is far more enjoyable I wonder what a poll would reveal ?



I think it would be statistically interesting but that is about all, though I accept that some people love intense heat. Today for me is perfect. Temps between 14-16c in a good dry breeze. Not cold, not oppressively warm, but just right. 


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The Beast from the East
21 June 2018 14:15:15

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


 


I think it would be statistically interesting but that is about all, though I accept that some people love intense heat. Today for me is perfect. Temps between 14-16c in a good dry breeze. Not cold, not oppressively warm, but just right. 



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For people like me who hate heat, the only straw of comfort today is a possible stronger easterly breeze which will hopefully blow in some low cloud which may take time to burn off


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Maunder Minimum
21 June 2018 14:37:52

Originally Posted by: bledur 


I just dont get how 30 degrees and sultry heat is so exciting. A pleasant summer,s day of 25 degrees and comfotrtable humidity is far more enjoyable I wonder what a poll would reveal ?



Personally I like to experience 30 degrees plus for a summer weekend, just for the sake of it. But if I am honest, a general temperature of 25 degrees is far more comfortable.


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21 June 2018 15:50:15

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


 


Personally I like to experience 30 degrees plus for a summer weekend, just for the sake of it. But if I am honest, a general temperature of 25 degrees is far more comfortable.


My feelings too!  I like extremes but only occasionally. At one time I would have said a good summer included several 30c days and sultry, sticky, uncomfortable nights.  But these days I value my sleep and I’ve learnt that more than 25c has me looking for shade.  I’d be more than happy if summer continued here as it’s been since early May. 


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David M Porter
21 June 2018 16:02:46

Originally Posted by: Caz 


My feelings too!  I like extremes but only occasionally. At one time I would have said a good summer included several 30c days and sultry, sticky, uncomfortable nights.  But these days I value my sleep and I’ve learnt that more than 25c has me looking for shade.  I’d be more than happy if summer continued here as it’s been since early May. 



My mum who is now in her early 70s isn't overly keen on extreme heat either, and neither am I and I'm 38. Like you Caz, I am quite happy with summer temperatures up to about 25C but anything above that is pushing it a bit for me. That said, I can tolerate temps in the high 20s provided it is not a humid heat. Humidity is my biggest enemy when it comes to summer weather. I also like my kip each night and don't take very kindly to having it compromised in any way!


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Northern Sky
21 June 2018 16:04:09

A really dry outlook. We really need some rain as everything will soon start to look parched and past it's best. I love the lush green and vibrant countryside at this time of year. I don't want it looking tired and past its best, it's not even July. Doesn't look like changing anytime soon.

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21 June 2018 16:23:29
My ideal daytime temperature is 28C, but 30C is statistically fun and important when it's already got to over 29 in April.

GFS 12z is another slight downgrade by the look of things. Warmth in the week when I'm in the office is a waste. All that matters for me is that my father's 70th weekend is dry and sunny, so I am crossing my fingers for that.
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LeedsLad123
21 June 2018 16:36:10
GFS looks crap with another stupid easterly developing. UKMO is perfect.
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Arcus
21 June 2018 16:37:37
Hmmm... GFS 12z Op keen on re-introducing the Least From The East with the block migrating northward midweek onwards. Crud-tastic. UKMO similar.
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