Gavin D
09 December 2016 09:16:55
At least my heating is getting a rest now

Start to get next years daffs poking through the ground now
idj20
09 December 2016 09:41:32

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

At least my heating is getting a rest now

Start to get next years daffs poking through the ground now



I've got mine on this morning to shift this initial clammy feeling indoors. I think when it's 11 C and 90% humidity with no sun outside and an onshore breeze, that seems to "feel" colder than, say, 7 C with lower humidity, calm air and winter sunshine.


Folkestone Harbour. 
tallyho_83
09 December 2016 10:11:14
14C AND mild - light winds if any! So unseasonably warm,.

I thought last December broke records but this December looks like it will top it.
Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Rob K
09 December 2016 12:58:48

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

14C AND mild - light winds if any! So unseasonably warm,.

I thought last December broke records but this December looks like it will top it.


What on Earth are you talking about? December 2015 was the warmest CET December in history by a country mile. There is not a hope in hell of this month coming anywhere near it.


 


That said it was pleasantly warm this morning for my bike ride to the station, quite welcome after some very cold starts last week. Though strangely when I got to the station there was an announcement over the tannoy warning of "slippery conditions due to the current cold weather" 


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Bolty
09 December 2016 14:24:25

14C this afternoon. These last three days have been excellent!


Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
My weather station 
Gavin D
09 December 2016 14:38:07


JACKO4EVER
09 December 2016 14:45:39
WTF
What a joke ha ha 😂😂😂😂
Anyone would think it's April Fools Day
Maunder Minimum
09 December 2016 15:11:40

Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 

WTF
What a joke ha ha 😂😂😂😂
Anyone would think it's April Fools Day


Judging from the outside temperatures, it probably is


Well you either have to laugh or cry.


[edit] just been looking into Exacta Weather. It appears they base their forecasts on solar activity or lack thereof. They even thought last winter could be affected. But if December 2010 teaches anything about the solar influence, it is at the end of an extended minimum that it may cause effects, not at the start. We are only just now heading into solar minimum, so if there is any influence on the NAO which might help us, we might have to wait until winter 2018-19 before we see it.


 


New world order coming.
tallyho_83
09 December 2016 15:27:47
15 c today. overcast and mild. Quite yucky and unseasonal with this mild weather with many in short sleeves.
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Retron
09 December 2016 16:48:11

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


[edit] just been looking into Exacta Weather.



It's just some bloke posting rubbish from his bedroom.


The Guardian shreds him to pieces here:


https://www.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2015/apr/09/daily-express-weather-warning-beware-a-shower-of-extreme-inaccuracy


Looks like he's got some fans on Facebook too!


https://www.facebook.com/Exacta-Weather-the-truth-behind-the-headlines-231254790375886/


(No, I don't have a Facebook account but that link above seems to work well enough without one!)


 


Leysdown, north Kent
doctormog
Medlock Vale Weather
09 December 2016 20:51:03

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

15 c today. overcast and mild. Quite yucky and unseasonal with this mild weather with many in short sleeves.


Ian Fergusson still insists anything could happen and there is still uncertainty but he's been saying that since the middle of November, it's becoming a stuck record. Last month he wrote we could be experiencing "marked" below average temps in December & the signs were very intriguing, I think right now we are about as far away from a proper cold outlook as is possible, it is 11C outside right now, pathetic for December it really is......some nights in Summer were colder. I know he's only saying what he sees at the Met Office but if we still cannot get medium term forecasts right in 2016 then what is the point in LRF's? it seems humans still have a long way to go until we are intelligent enough to program super computers to produce some degree of accuracy in that regard. Mother nature 1 Super computers 0.


Sometimes I think things were better before the internet age when all we had was Ceefax, teletext and the countryfile forecast. Our hopes did not get up too much. I think these days its a case of too much information.


 


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tallyho_83
10 December 2016 00:04:17

Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather 


 


Ian Fergusson still insists anything could happen and there is still uncertainty but he's been saying that since the middle of November, it's becoming a stuck record. Last month he wrote we could be experiencing "marked" below average temps in December & the signs were very intriguing, I think right now we are about as far away from a proper cold outlook as is possible, it is 11C outside right now, pathetic for December it really is......some nights in Summer were colder. I know he's only saying what he sees at the Met Office but if we still cannot get medium term forecasts right in 2016 then what is the point in LRF's? it seems humans still have a long way to go until we are intelligent enough to program super computers to produce some degree of accuracy in that regard. Mother nature 1 Super computers 0.


Sometimes I think things were better before the internet age when all we had was Ceefax, teletext and the countryfile forecast. Our hopes did not get up too much. I think these days its a case of too much information.


 



Agree! Well at least we had an easterly - but in October and November was colder. In fact I remember many October days this year when it was colder than December. Just the minute we start winter we get all weird weather patterns! Also the Met Office forecasted colder weather to return from mid-month as did the BBC - so I guess both are wrong!?


The runs can't look worse if you're looking for cold weather even if they tried!?


14c between Exeter and Plymouth - virtually all the way! Sorry 13c over haldon hill with drizzle! Just mucky and horrible.


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Skreever
10 December 2016 09:09:06
Mild here - but on the positive side it means heating costs are lower! But I always look for positives - it means I can watch for the Gemini meteor shower around the 13th December without wearing two jackets and two hats. Also Aurora can put on a show any time now - first sightings this end of the year in September. All I need is a clear sky ....and there's the problem.😬
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Saint Snow
10 December 2016 10:14:24

Originally Posted by: Retron 


 


It's just some bloke posting rubbish from his bedroom.


The Guardian shreds him to pieces here:


https://www.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2015/apr/09/daily-express-weather-warning-beware-a-shower-of-extreme-inaccuracy


Looks like he's got some fans on Facebook too!


https://www.facebook.com/Exacta-Weather-the-truth-behind-the-headlines-231254790375886/


(No, I don't have a Facebook account but that link above seems to work well enough without one!)


 



 


It's James Madman innit?


 



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Solar Cycles
10 December 2016 10:37:21

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 




If only his wishful thinking could become reality. 😜

Solar Cycles
10 December 2016 10:40:26

Originally Posted by: Retron 


 


It's just some bloke posting rubbish from his bedroom.


The Guardian shreds him to pieces here:


https://www.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2015/apr/09/daily-express-weather-warning-beware-a-shower-of-extreme-inaccuracy


Looks like he's got some fans on Facebook too!


https://www.facebook.com/Exacta-Weather-the-truth-behind-the-headlines-231254790375886/


(No, I don't have a Facebook account but that link above seems to work well enough without one!)


 


Its probably the only piece of journalism  I'll ever agree with from the co-author of said article. 

richardabdn
10 December 2016 11:00:18

I am sick to death of yet another rotten lousy winter that is beyond depressing. This month is the absolute pits - not just for the lack of snow and frost but mainly the extreme gloom.


Where the hell is the sunshine that was promised today? Clear at dawn but now it is yet more dismal grey muck totally obscuring the sky just like the last two weekends. Yet even with the clear skies the temperature got no lower than 4.2C.


If there had been as much sunshine as forecast this month we would be sitting on about 30 hours rather than the pitiful 9 hours. It is just grim and depressing - worse than 2013 and 2015. 5 days already with a big fat ZERO sunshine. Average number of sunless days in December over the last 10 years for the whole of December has been 6.8 with a range from 2 in 2011 to 12  in 2012 which puts in to perspective how awful this winter has been so far.


This month on course to be even milder than last December and two consecutive December’s with a mean over 6C would be unprecedented. Not to mention the mean of 5.6C in 2013. It’s been a truly dire run. It's not just a case of little snow, as there was in the 90s, but there is exceptionally little frost too and an inordinate amount of horrifically wet and unpleasant weather. February 2011, December 2012, Winter 13/14, first half of 15/16 and now this: all intolerable, insufferable and depressingly bad periods that rank amongst the worst winter weather on record.


 


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Col
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10 December 2016 16:59:53

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


I am sick to death of yet another rotten lousy winter that is beyond depressing. This month is the absolute pits - not just for the lack of snow and frost but mainly the extreme gloom.


Where the hell is the sunshine that was promised today? Clear at dawn but now it is yet more dismal grey muck totally obscuring the sky just like the last two weekends. Yet even with the clear skies the temperature got no lower than 4.2C.


If there had been as much sunshine as forecast this month we would be sitting on about 30 hours rather than the pitiful 9 hours. It is just grim and depressing - worse than 2013 and 2015. 5 days already with a big fat ZERO sunshine. Average number of sunless days in December over the last 10 years for the whole of December has been 6.8 with a range from 2 in 2011 to 12  in 2012 which puts in to perspective how awful this winter has been so far.


This month on course to be even milder than last December and two consecutive December’s with a mean over 6C would be unprecedented. Not to mention the mean of 5.6C in 2013. It’s been a truly dire run. It's not just a case of little snow, as there was in the 90s, but there is exceptionally little frost too and an inordinate amount of horrifically wet and unpleasant weather. February 2011, December 2012, Winter 13/14, first half of 15/16 and now this: all intolerable, insufferable and depressingly bad periods that rank amongst the worst winter weather on record.


 



I know this is a moaning thread but if you continue with crap like this just as you did for months on end in the summer moaning/gloating thread then I'm just going to block your posts. You are a complete pain in the arse!


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Essan
10 December 2016 17:10:23

Well I am looking on the bright side!   All this rain today means I wont have to cut the grass tomorrow: the garden will be too waterlogged


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