johncs2016
10 December 2016 17:23:50

Originally Posted by: Essan 


Well I am looking on the bright side!   All this rain today means I wont have to cut the grass tomorrow: the garden will be too waterlogged



Here in Edinburgh, it is completely different story since it is now so long ago since I last saw it raining during daylight hours, that I have actually forgotten when that was (I'm not a professional meteorologist, so I don't have means of measuring that which many other people on these forums have). So far, we have had a very dry start to the winter which is on the completely opposite extreme in terms of rainfall figures to what we had at this time last year, when there was all of that flooding around.


At the moment, there are weather systems coming in from the Atlantic but so far, they are either missing us altogether, or being weakened so much by that nearby blocking high over the continent, that there is little or no rainfall left on them by the time that they reach us. With forecasts showing no signs of that situation changing any time soon (if anything, the models are pointing toward that high pressure building back in towards us which then reduces the chances of us getting rain even further) and since it is now so long ago since we last had any sort of wetter than average season, we are still looking at a possible winter drought scenario where I live.


 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
AFC Snow
10 December 2016 18:33:36

Originally Posted by: Col 


 


I know this is a moaning thread but if you continue with crap like this just as you did for months on end in the summer moaning/gloating thread then I'm just going to block your posts. You are a complete pain in the arse!



Don't come on the moaning thread then The winters here since the first month of winter 2010/11 have been nothing short of a joke for what is meant to be the snowiest city in the UK. 

Andy Woodcock
10 December 2016 21:07:34

Originally Posted by: Col 


 


I know this is a moaning thread but if you continue with crap like this just as you did for months on end in the summer moaning/gloating thread then I'm just going to block your posts. You are a complete pain in the arse!



No it's not crap, it reflects the reality of the modern British Winter!


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sizzle
10 December 2016 21:20:11

its seems to me that this winter is going to go TITS UP not evan the forecasters can get it right but saying that MR brian said winter is a tough call matt hugo said winter is WILDCARDS 10 days in im GREENED OUT already but tonight is wet and windy but mild so November has arrived.


looks like jan before we see some winter weather the UK is PANTS when it come to any season tho summer was ok and I HATE summer HP always dominates just like now

ARTzeman
10 December 2016 21:45:32

Winter is doing it's own thing this year.. The dive will come soon enough.... I Hope...






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Bolty
10 December 2016 22:04:35

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


I am sick to death of yet another rotten lousy winter that is beyond depressing. This month is the absolute pits - not just for the lack of snow and frost but mainly the extreme gloom.


Where the hell is the sunshine that was promised today? Clear at dawn but now it is yet more dismal grey muck totally obscuring the sky just like the last two weekends. Yet even with the clear skies the temperature got no lower than 4.2C.


If there had been as much sunshine as forecast this month we would be sitting on about 30 hours rather than the pitiful 9 hours. It is just grim and depressing - worse than 2013 and 2015. 5 days already with a big fat ZERO sunshine. Average number of sunless days in December over the last 10 years for the whole of December has been 6.8 with a range from 2 in 2011 to 12  in 2012 which puts in to perspective how awful this winter has been so far.


This month on course to be even milder than last December and two consecutive December’s with a mean over 6C would be unprecedented. Not to mention the mean of 5.6C in 2013. It’s been a truly dire run. It's not just a case of little snow, as there was in the 90s, but there is exceptionally little frost too and an inordinate amount of horrifically wet and unpleasant weather. February 2011, December 2012, Winter 13/14, first half of 15/16 and now this: all intolerable, insufferable and depressingly bad periods that rank amongst the worst winter weather on record.


 



Isn't pretty much every month/season in existence the worst on record for you, Richard?


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Saint Snow
10 December 2016 22:18:50

Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 

 


No it's not crap, it reflects the reality of the modern British Winter!



 


Oh crap, it's catching!




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sizzle
10 December 2016 22:56:09

I wil have my strong opinon about winter at the end of winter and I will speak my mind that's my moad for now,

johncs2016
11 December 2016 02:52:22
Our seasons appear to be mixed up just now, and I have seen cooler maximum temperatures during the middle of summer, than what most of us have being seeing in recent days, and I can even recall that it was only last year (2015) that there was snow on the Cairngorms on the day of the SUMMER (yes, I do mean summer) solstice instead of that snow coming to us just now at the very time that we would expect to at the very least, start to be getting that snow.

On top of that, Richard from Aberdeen is actually quite right when he expresses just how crap our weather seems to be for most of the time, and I certainly wouldn't knock him for stating exactly how he feels about that (this is a moaning thread, after all). In many ways, it really is just the same old weather that we get throughout the year and because of that, our seasons seem to be becoming increasing indistinguishable with increasingly similar temperatures all year round and on top of that, our winters tend to be dark, dismal, mild and virtually snowless whilst our summers tend to consist of almost constantly grey skies.

That appears to be quite a depressing scenario and yet, that is the 'modern era' for you, which is mentioned so much on these forums.

The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
idj20
11 December 2016 22:42:01

At least we don't have to worry about this here at the UK: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/antarctic-explorer-suffers-freezing-condition-9438430

Saving grace every cloud has a silver lining and all that.


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JACKO4EVER
12 December 2016 08:05:04

Originally Posted by: idj20 


At least we don't have to worry about this here at the UK: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/antarctic-explorer-suffers-freezing-condition-9438430

Saving grace every cloud has a silver lining and all that.



lol Ian,there is however a notable rise here in U.K. This winter of "Mild mouldy manhood" 

Medlock Vale Weather
12 December 2016 17:04:08

It would be nice to get some sun, been dull for days on end - it's getting like Aberdeen!  cannot remember when there was some sunny spells.


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doctor snow
13 December 2016 00:09:25
I blame myself the last three years iv had snow tyres on me car .yep bugger all snow i think i will sell them bound to snow then it all my fault
Fothergill
13 December 2016 00:32:01

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 

Our seasons appear to be mixed up just now, and I have seen cooler maximum temperatures during the middle of summer, than what most of us have being seeing in recent days, and I can even recall that it was only last year (2015) that there was snow on the Cairngorms on the day of the SUMMER (yes, I do mean summer) solstice instead of that snow coming to us just now at the very time that we would expect to at the very least, start to be getting that snow.

On top of that, Richard from Aberdeen is actually quite right when he expresses just how crap our weather seems to be for most of the time, and I certainly wouldn't knock him for stating exactly how he feels about that (this is a moaning thread, after all). In many ways, it really is just the same old weather that we get throughout the year and because of that, our seasons seem to be becoming increasing indistinguishable with increasingly similar temperatures all year round and on top of that, our winters tend to be dark, dismal, mild and virtually snowless whilst our summers tend to consist of almost constantly grey skies.

That appears to be quite a depressing scenario and yet, that is the 'modern era' for you, which is mentioned so much on these forums.


This year in particular has been very dull and boring weatherwise. Apart from the storms and rain in January and a few warm days in July I can't remember any weather events this year. Not even had a thunderstorm. I'd rather the raging active zonality of last winter than this nothingness. And I see we're being teased with more LRFs hinting at "blocked" weather next month. Tired of these wild goose chases with charts that are always 2 weeks away. Unless agreement within +144hrs I'm not interested anymore and even then I'll believe it when I see it. I've been around the block way too much over the years.

Foghorn
13 December 2016 00:52:15
At least November was interesting with a good mix of cold, frost, rain, sun and thankfully calm - in these parts 0 and calm feels so much better than 10 and windy and looks better too. BUT as the saying goes:
"If November ice will bear a duck, the winter will be slush and muck." I reckon the ice around here in Northumberland would have borne a good sized Swan! I rest my case.....
Retron
13 December 2016 03:39:25

Originally Posted by: Foghorn 


"If November ice will bear a duck, the winter will be slush and muck." I reckon the ice around here in Northumberland would have borne a good sized Swan! I rest my case.....


In which case, we should be in for blizzards beyond all compare down here - two frosts in November, that was it. There wasn't enough ice to support a flea, let alone a duck!


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Solar Cycles
13 December 2016 08:42:32

Originally Posted by: Retron 


 


In which case, we should be in for blizzards beyond all compare down here - two frosts in November, that was it. There wasn't enough ice to support a flea, let alone a duck!


Same here, two frosts and three days of below average temps all standard November fayre around these parts. All eyes are now on the garden path for the Xmas period and beyond, are we being led up it again or should I be stocking up on supplies for the forthcoming "big" freeze. 😜

Gray-Wolf
13 December 2016 10:54:03

As winter progresses the north must surely get its act together and give the models conditions that they are progged to run with? As it stands its almost as though the deeper you get into the run the more the models try to pull things in a direction that they are prog'ed to see in the N.Hemisphere? Sadly we've been seeing some pretty 'extreme' behaviours across the north?


My greatest concern is what we see the eastern seaboard spawning as they have been our bain over winters since 07'? Our Flood Alleviation schemes are only half complete and though they might cope better with a Boxing Day 2016 scale event we would still see extensive flooding in areas still repairing from last year?


If things stay as they are with low solar driving Atlantic blocking for us then I am content even if it only means a worse Arctic summer in 2017 as next winter will see solar in a similar phase keeping the Atlantic at bay no matter how extreme it has become by then?


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tallyho_83
13 December 2016 12:54:52

It's becoming yet another overcast damp dull and dark muggy warm day with temperatures 0f 14c.

If this was summer we would be seeing a week or two of extreme heat and thunder etc. Just a big pity we never get the right set up in the right month. - We had a week of easterlies in October which could have brought cold and snow if this occurred now and now winter is here we get a perfect set up for a summers chart with southerly winds.

Just a horror show really - not to mention.. very unseasonal.


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idj20
13 December 2016 12:56:46

Whenever I have a long and hot shower which naturally makes it steamy in the bathroom, I then leave the two windows and a wall vent open afterwards to air the room out. That usually does the trick where the room is dried out within the hour and thus kept free from mould.

On this occasion, I had a shower fours hours ago and did the venting routine but the walls are still wet with heavy condensation, the 95% outside humidity is what preventing evaporation from taking place indoors.

Yuk. No wonder why houses in the north suffers with mildew and mould.  


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