Anyway a big bonus for those in Central Southern England - a pleasant surprise for them judging by the radar.

It’s the same here: the radar map show very light snow falling but the ground is dry. There could be a flake or two in the air but it’s pitch dark and we don’t have any street lighting.

Yes it took a pretty long time to get going, and never exactly heavy. We have finished off with a cm of lying snow, which I'm sure will look "pretty" in the morning.

Yes, I noticed that.

I work in south Oxfordshire…..looked at RADAR before leaving work …was sure I would drive into snow driving south but nothing. We eventually got a light dusting here.

Whereas this morning it was slightly west of NW'ly, and so driving the snow showers into NW England SW of a line from Preston to Manchester, the flow has swung round to more of a NNW'y, which sends the snow showers into NE Wales

Yes, it's been sunny here today, but I can clearly see the anvils over the Irish Sea. Looks like North Wales are getting it all at the moment, with a very cold and clear night to come here.

It's been misty/foggy all day in city centre Manc (and, according to the missus, similar back home)

Will it do it's usually about turn or fizzle away into nothing?

The upper steering flow is NNW'ly / NW'ly, so I wouldn't get your hopes up!

https://images.meteociel.fr/im/88/26364/9_308UKshp3.GIF 

Thanks Darren, seems to happen quite a lot these days.

Just about touches Great Yarmouth and then departs for Holland

https://weather.metoffice.gov.uk/maps-and-charts/rainfall-radar-forecast-map 

This underlying NNW or NW air-stream is ever more present, in direct contrast to the frequent. East Anglian snow showers of times past (how they are missed). The second phenomenon is the fizzle. Whenever such shower clouds get near the EA coast, they suddenly collapse and fizzle to virtually nothing.

Its a bother. I am sure this cluster will both fizzle and shoot off east, just clipping Stalham with some sleet, being 6m ASL.

Yours most miffed

B

Its on the ICON too, I assumed it was freezing fog?

ICON shows a few flakes of snow close to northern France.  On the TWO plots (and quite likely others) the snow key will only appear if the variable isn't null. It's the easiest way to check if there is any snow forecast in the grid area which is plotted.

That's odd, I can definitely see it here:

https://modeles12.meteociel.fr/modeles/icon/runs/2025011512/iconeu_uk1-1-96-0.png?15-16 

Does ICON have a separate regional model (not ICON-D2)

You can also see it here

https://modeles12.meteociel.fr/modeles/icon/runs/2025011512/iconeu_uk1-42-96-0.png?15-16 

But only as a couple of pixels in the E midlands and kent.

I can only guess the rate is less than 0.05 which is the cut off point on the TWO ICON-EU charts.

Friday: Widespread snow likely briefly for much of the north, albeit it will be brief and turn quickly to rain. Scotland could see something more prolonged.

Saturday: A little feature crosses England in realtively cold air. Quite a bit of snow likely for some places. Should be interesting.

And plenty of wintry showers on offer for the far west on many days. But there will be brief thaw periods as is the case when the cold comes from the west.

Welcome to cold zonality. And cometh the pest from the west.

Widespread? Looks like virtually nothing whatsoever for the vast majority, and I appreciate this is a day later, but it didn’t 24 hours ago either. 

However, the highest ground of Scotland is going to get absolutely battered in the next day or so

Fair enough.

N Ireland and northern parts of Eire are seeing some snow now though.

The snow in Ireland is fairly localised tonight, I think, but it is being reported in a few areas. That said, Meteireann is talking about fairly widespread snow showers over the next few days though I expect that we're looking at falling snow only, so I don't think you're too far off the mark.

Very likely that the ppn will be snow over Cumbria and Western Scotland.

Models split on how far south it will fall as snow, though. Looking at MBY (but applies to the whole Merseyside/Manchester conurbation, really):

Snow - Arpege

Borderline - GFS & Icon

Rain - Met Office 

Fragmented so mostly dry here - UKV

I'm not counting on snow, but it'll be interesting to see which is right

Front will fragment and fizzle not that far inland as well