Shockingly cold spring and early summer. Just pathetic.

You keep doing this. 🤣

For your area:

March - max temp slightly below average (mean average)
April - max temp average (mean average)
May - max temp slightly above average (mean average)

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/maps-and-data/uk-actual-and-anomaly-maps 

The figures don't bear out your tantrums.

 

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You keep doing this. 🤣

For your area:

March - max temp slightly below average (mean average)
April - max temp average (mean average)
May - max temp slightly above average (mean average)

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/maps-and-data/uk-actual-and-anomaly-maps 

The figures don't bear out your tantrums.

 

This is the moaning thread, and I will moan.
The average temperatures being slightly above is down to the extensive cloud cover and rain, not because we've had a warm spring.
So, politely as I can, bugger off 😂😂😂😂

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So far, this so-called "summer" is reminding me a lot of 2014 when there was a lot of northern blocking, but with the high pressure being close enough to Scotland in particular, to keep it largely dry and settled.

Back then, just about every day would start off on a dull and overcast note here but back then, we would always be guaranteed to see the Sun by the afternoon which was enough in the end, to result in those months being sunnier than average overall and we actually ended up with decent summer overall as a result.

Of course, there was a lot of easterly winds here then which kept it a bit cooler here on the east coast. However, you didn't have to travel very inland then to find it a lot warmer and a lot sunnier so much so that there was many occasions when I would feel quite cool here in the north of Edinburgh but then after taking a bus just to the south of Edinburgh, I would then suddenly find it becoming a lot sunnier and actually feeling quite hot (of course, I would then go back to feeling quite chilly once again after I had got home due to that cooling wind from off the North Sea).

As Jerry and Noodle Doodle (who are both normally located in the south of Edinburgh) would tell you though, that just isn't happening this time. That low cloud is a lot more extensive this time and sometimes even managing to filter all the way through the Forth-Clyde Valley towards Glasgow at times along with those cooler conditions. Furthermore, I don't recall any point in time during that summer of 2014 when the low cloud would struggle so much to be burnt back to the coast as we are seeing on this occasion, and there certainly weren't any days that I can remember from back then when that cloud would fail to actually completely break up during the day as was the case during yesterday.
 

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I’m very much looking forward to the weekend - nice humid southerlies to replace these dreadful chilly north-easterlies. Mid to high 20s with the chance of thunderstorms suits me. 

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Cloud doesn't really look like breaking here today but it was expected. 
Hopefully it will break easier Wednesday to Friday, some signs it might not be as thick, but no guarantees.  At least the weekend looks better though. 

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I can't remember a spell of North Sea muck across the bulk of Southern and Central England as long in duration as this. Nearly 2 weeks. I know Aberdeen occasionally gets the Haar for days and days on end, but the Midlands in particular have been plagues pretty much every day since the current high pressure established itself.

CET map for June will be interesting.

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This is the moaning thread, and I will moan.
The average temperatures being slightly above is down to the extensive cloud cover and rain, not because we've had a warm spring.
So, politely as I can, bugger off 😂😂😂😂

Just correcting your strops, cockle. I've become averse to spreading false information 😉

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I can't remember a spell of North Sea muck across the bulk of Southern and Central England as long in duration as this. Nearly 2 weeks. I know Aberdeen occasionally gets the Haar for days and days on end, but the Midlands in particular have been plagues pretty much every day since the current high pressure established itself.

CET map for June will be interesting.

This type of set up normally last max few days then HP move in to bring warmer to hotter weather.  Also when living in the SE which is far more closer to the East than the midlands always guarantee to break up max 11am, never later than that sometimes earlier.  In the W midlands which is much further from the east should had been clear in the last 2 weeks.  Can't wait to see normal warm weather arriving this weekend and much sunnier and settled than the last few weeks which had been very unsettled, gale force winds, dull and very cold at times bar 1 settled day on a Saturday of BH weekend.  They were misleading about wording settled which mean cloud free and no winds.  

I expected the clag to be extensive today but Christ that’s hilariously bad. It’s reached all the way to bloody Northern Ireland! 😂

I wish it would reach as far as here. Having said that, some fair weather cumuli bubbling up, which is something I haven't seen for about 2 weeks now. 
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Just correcting your strops, cockle. I've become averse to spreading false information 😉

I only ever strop in here now....I'm more measured in the model thread.

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Yet another day of relentless 💩from this worthless year of relentless 💩that is so unspeakably awful that literally anything would look good by comparison.

Only the 6th June and it's already comfortably beaten 2012's shameful tally of 14 sunless days across April, May and June. It's just relentless. While the clag across England is being fed in from the North Sea the utter garbage over NE Scotland isn't coming from anywhere. It just a stagnant area of permacast hell that just sits there all day not allowing so much as a ray to filter through it 🤮

At this rate January and February will be the months with the fewest sunless days in this revolting year. It was beyond preposterous weeks ago yet still it persists. Almost a third of days since 26th April have been sunless and this is supposed to be the sunniest time of the year.  Not since 2002 has there even been anything like this at the darkest time of year in November and December 🤢🤢🤢

Nothing less than a torturous endurance test 🤬

 

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North sea smuck again and very cool in the NE breeze.😞

Roll on the weekend and the warm sunshine.😎

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What annoys me the most is the forecasts make me optimistic that the cloud will disappear. 

Today the Met Office automated was saying sunshine by 11am, it is nearly 1pm now and it is grey and has backtracked to sunshine 3pm.  The Yorks and Humber text forecast always says cloud burning away in the West, may stay cloudy in Eastern coastal counties etc, but in reality, most days, it is cloudy in all but the very far NW of the region which is actually NW England/almost the Lakes anyway. 

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What annoys me the most is the forecasts make me optimistic that the cloud will disappear. 

Today the Met Office automated was saying sunshine by 11am, it is nearly 1pm now and it is grey and has backtracked to sunshine 3pm.  The Yorks and Humber text forecast always says cloud burning away in the West, may stay cloudy in Eastern coastal counties etc, but in reality, most days, it is cloudy in all but the very far NW of the region which is actually NW England/almost the Lakes anyway. 

Yes, it has been like that in terms of forecast and actual conditions here too for the past few days. Frustrating to say the least.

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What annoys me the most is the forecasts make me optimistic that the cloud will disappear. 

Today the Met Office automated was saying sunshine by 11am, it is nearly 1pm now and it is grey and has backtracked to sunshine 3pm.  The Yorks and Humber text forecast always says cloud burning away in the West, may stay cloudy in Eastern coastal counties etc, but in reality, most days, it is cloudy in all but the very far NW of the region which is actually NW England/almost the Lakes anyway. 

indeed - their text forecasts are laughable. They can never quite bring themselves to say ‘staying cloudy all day for most’. And then they’ll say ‘cloud spilling in overnight’ as if the cloud ever retreated in the first place.

Thankfully all change come the weekend once the wind switches to a southeasterly. 25C/26C by Saturday.

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The sun is out here now almost completely blue sky. It really is amazing the difference when the sun comes out instantly from March to June.  A different world. 

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The sun is out here now almost completely blue sky. It really is amazing the difference when the sun comes out instantly from March to June.  A different world. 

Agreed and really hope today the last day for nasty clouds to attack in the mornings.  It been robbing our lovely sunrise for weeks as the longest day will be here soon then sadly drawing back in.  I am looking forward for some welcome warm weather but can't help feeling we been robbed severely since SSW attacked us from March to this week ending so that 3 month wasted.   Those weekend temps should had been appearing in April and May warmest day maxes. 

Agreed and really hope today the last day for nasty clouds to attack in the mornings.  It been robbing our lovely sunrise for weeks as the longest day will be here soon then sadly drawing back in.  I am looking forward for some welcome warm weather but can't help feeling we been robbed severely since SSW attacked us from March to this week ending so that 3 month wasted.   Those weekend temps should had been appearing in April and May warmest day maxes. 

I fully agree with that as well.

We are now exactly two weeks away from the summer solstice and at this time of the year, the nights are so short that twilight (which is what you normally see just after sunset and just before sunrise) lasts all the way through the night.

On the night of the summer solstice itself here in Edinburgh, the Sun will only be around 10.6° below the horizon even in the middle of the night when it is at its furthest point below the horizon.

This means that even at that point in time, we will still be in what is what is known as nautical twilight (which is when the Sun is between 6° and 12° below the horizon.

At those times, it is light enough for the horizon to be clearly visible and for the sky just above that to be virtually as light as it is during the day, even though it is actually the middle of the night then.

From my flat here in the north of Edinburgh, that always looks really spectacular because I can clearly see right across the Firth of Forth and at this time of the year, about a third of the whole sky just above that will be as light as it during the day, even in the middle of the night and with that, it is even light enough then for a shimmering of blue colour to be seen on the water itself.

The big caveat which is in play here though is that we need to be getting clear skies at night in order to be able to see that properly so with all of this cloud that is forming during the night and which is still around at the start of each following day, I haven't really had a proper chance to see that this year up until now.

That is very frustrating indeed because once we get past the solstice itself, we will then be into the period when it starts to get darker at nights once again. This means that unless we get a change in the weather pattern before then which would allow us to actually get those clear skies at night which are required for me to be able to see that, we are going to be in great danger of missing out on that altogether this year which would be absolutely pathetic in my opinion.😡

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The sun has come out to play at last.😎

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Well as expected, a sunless day. I expect the same tomorrow and possibly Friday as well until the wind direction changes on Saturday.

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