Gavin D
13 December 2021 21:23:12

Saturday 18 Dec - Monday 27 Dec


Through this period, high pressure, already across southern areas, is expected to build further north, pushing the remaining wind and rain away. Here any rain will be light, giving a much drier second half to December for all and winds expected to be predominantly calm. Although rather cloudy at first, cloud amounts should reduce through the period, especially in the south and southeast. Temperatures near average to start, and locally mild in the north, although they will tend to become colder in time for Christmas, especially in southern areas. As a result, the risk of frost and fog increases, the fog slow to clear through the mornings, and perhaps lasting all day in some places.


Tuesday 28 Dec - Tuesday 11 Jan


It is likely to remain settled for the final week of 2021, with an increasing risk of frost and fog for Christmas and New Year. Any unsettled spells are most likely for the northwest, with occasional stronger winds, and some showers or longer spells of rain. Temperatures are expected to be around average, but milder in the north, and colder in the south at times, where frost is most likely. Heading deeper into January there is expected to be a gradual shift towards more changeable conditions, especially in the northwest, and turning milder again too.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/


 

dagspot
14 December 2021 10:36:25
good old automated bbc app giving me sleet on 25th !
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dagspot
15 December 2021 12:50:19

Originally Posted by: dagspot 

good old automated bbc app giving me sleet on 25th !


and now light snow all day… wink


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Whiteout
15 December 2021 14:51:39

Oh hello :



 At the start of this period it will be settled and predominantly dry with large amounts of cloud, though cloud may well be thick enough for the odd spot of drizzle at times. In general, cloud amounts will tend to reduce with time, with a corresponding increase in the risk of overnight fog and frost, which may be slow to clear by day in some areas. Towards the middle of the period, there is an increasing chance of more unsettled and windier weather affecting the UK, with rain, and perhaps snow, possible for some places. Temperatures will generally be near to below normal, perhaps rather cold in the south, feeling chilly where any fog persists, and locally mild in the north and northwest.


 


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tallyho_83
15 December 2021 15:53:55

Originally Posted by: Whiteout 


Oh hello :



 At the start of this period it will be settled and predominantly dry with large amounts of cloud, though cloud may well be thick enough for the odd spot of drizzle at times. In general, cloud amounts will tend to reduce with time, with a corresponding increase in the risk of overnight fog and frost, which may be slow to clear by day in some areas. Towards the middle of the period, there is an increasing chance of more unsettled and windier weather affecting the UK, with rain, and perhaps snow, possible for some places. Temperatures will generally be near to below normal, perhaps rather cold in the south, feeling chilly where any fog persists, and locally mild in the north and northwest.


 



Compared to Yesterdays update:




At the start of this period it will be settled and predominantly dry with large amounts of cloud, though cloud may well be thick enough for the odd spot of drizzle at times. In general, cloud amounts will tend to reduce with time, with a corresponding increase in the risk of overnight fog and frost, which may be slow to clear by day in some areas. There will be a slight chance of rain at times in the far north and northwest, with some stronger winds here. Temperatures will generally be near average, and locally mild in the north, but perhaps rather cold at times in the south and feeling chilly where any fog persists.


Updated: 


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So an upgrade from the Met Office? Well they are seeing what the GFS many runs were showing with potential of cold v mild air and when they state "towards the middle of the period" - This would mean around Christmas Day. Keeping fingers crossed as always!! 



 


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tallyho_83
15 December 2021 15:59:25

The Met Office are still going for a colder and drier end to 2021 in their 16-30 day outlook: 




"It is likely to remain settled for the final week of 2021, with overnight frost and fog likely in places as we head towards the New Year. Any unsettled spells are most likely for the northwest, with occasional stronger winds, and some showers or longer spells of rain and potential for areas of snow. Temperatures are expected to be around average, but milder in the north, and colder in the south at times, where frost is most likely. Heading deeper into January there is expected to be a gradual shift towards more changeable conditions, especially in the northwest, and turning milder again too."


Updated: 


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- This ties in with the latest CFS as well as the EC 30 day model output which has a strong signal for a colder and more blocked pattern to dominate which Gavin P discussed recently.



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fullybhoy
15 December 2021 18:54:56
Sean Batty on the STV weather after the news mentioning possible snow on Christmas day and boxing day up here 👀👀
Aldo
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dagspot
15 December 2021 21:59:45
and Stav mentioning ‘battleground’
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Whiteout
15 December 2021 22:03:25

Interesting comments from Marco and Ian F on Twitter. Marco confident of milder and unsettled by Xmas. Ian replying saying he is much less confident. Uncertainty all around lol.


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Crepuscular Ray
15 December 2021 22:07:03

Stav mentioned cold air more likely to win but didn't sound convinced!


Jerry
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David M Porter
15 December 2021 22:07:35

Originally Posted by: fullybhoy 

Sean Batty on the STV weather after the news mentioning possible snow on Christmas day and boxing day up here 👀👀


Yes please!


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Brian Gaze
15 December 2021 22:23:03

Originally Posted by: Whiteout 


Interesting comments from Marco and Ian F on Twitter. Marco confident of milder and unsettled by Xmas. Ian replying saying he is much less confident. Uncertainty all around lol.



I wouldn't necessarily use the word confident and he made clear he is talking about the Christmas period as a whole. Here are the tweets so people can decide for themselves.




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dagspot
16 December 2021 10:00:05
BBC Matt Taylor ‘into Christmas week, turning colder’
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Whiteout
16 December 2021 12:59:08

Marc P saying an 'interesting' Christmas coming up as LP's from the SW try and budge the cold air.


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Crepuscular Ray
16 December 2021 14:13:08
Stav at 1330 showed the cold air firmly in place by Christmas Day across the UK with Easterly winds 🙂
Jerry
Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill
ballamar
16 December 2021 14:27:05

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

Stav at 1330 showed the cold air firmly in place by Christmas Day across the UK with Easterly winds 🙂


Must have some faith in the ECM evolution 

Whiteout
16 December 2021 14:48:33

Met update pretty much a rinse and repeat from yesterday 


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dagspot
16 December 2021 18:01:15
Nick Miller BBC ‘Turning colder as week goes on’
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dagspot
16 December 2021 19:00:21
BBC Scotland ‘may be some snow showers on Christmas day’ 🤔
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Whiteout
17 December 2021 14:59:41

That tells me they don't expect the first slider to get in too far :


 




A cloudy start to this period but remaining generally dry with just some light rain possible in north Scotland. This dry weather continues for a time with variable cloud cover across most of the nation, although occasional showers may be possible for north and eastern coastal regions. Towards the middle of this period the threat of rain or wintry conditions increases, particularly towards the south and south west. During this time some stronger winds are possible, although these are likely to be confined to southern regions. Temperatures likely to be rather cold with overnight frosts and increased risk of fog. Settled conditions however are likely to remain through the last few days of the year with a continued risk of frost and fog.


 


Having recently moved to Dartmoor I will take that lol.



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