But that £90k buys membership of the Old School Tie Network, where you are guaranteed power and privilege and a whopping great salary regardless of merit.

A top Public School I know had a special relationship with a local Comprehensive School with the aim of improving "views" on both sides. The thing that most struck the comp kids was that the annual fees [then] per pupil in the public school exceeded their parents' annual family incomes. I suspect the quality of teaching was similar in both institutions, certainly very good, and the abilities of pupils was not that different either - also very good - so what was the advantage in the private sector?  Getting kids away from their parents and peers for much of the year? You tell me.

R.

Oxford to mass produce the vaccine with 30 million ready by September.

If they can do that it really would be an outstanding feat of Human ingenuity.

Daily slides

Transport

Daily tests and new cases

People in hospital

Hospital data

All settings deaths with rolling 7-day average

 

A top Public School I know had a special relationship with a local Comprehensive School with the aim of improving "views" on both sides. The thing that most struck the comp kids was that the annual fees [then] per pupil in the public school exceeded their parents' annual family incomes. I suspect the quality of teaching was similar in both institutions, certainly very good, and the abilities of pupils was not that different either - also very good - so what was the advantage in the private sector?  Getting kids away from their parents and peers for much of the year? You tell me.

R.

Oxford to mass produce the vaccine with 30 million ready by September.

... if the trials are successful. A slightly important point.

I agree with that Roger, perhaps there ought to be a different thread to discuss this - I can't find a current version.

Threads often hark back to issues such as fairness, equitability and fulfilling human potential. A "fairness" thread would probably deteriorate into "Fascists versus Dave Sparts" - but often it's a bit like that already. You never know - some good ideas might emerge from the primal slime.

R.

 

If they can do that it really would be an outstanding feat of Human ingenuity.

 

Threads often hark back to issues such as fairness, equitability and fulfilling human potential. A "fairness" thread would probably deteriorate into "Fascists versus Dave Sparts" - but often it's a bit like that already. You never know - some good ideas might emerge from the primal slime.

R.

Oxford to mass produce the vaccine with 30 million ready by September.

Let's all hope the trials go well and the Oxford vaccine proves to be the answer.

 

... if the trials are successful. A slightly important point.

Very important. Gavin's post phrases it like it's a sure thing when it is anything but. Let's hope the trials are successful 

Professor Pangloss suggests the virus could burn out before a vaccine arrives. Wrt more immunity than estimated wouldn't it imply infections in older adults would probably be at a lower level than in younger ones?

There is a real chance that the virus will burn out naturally before any vaccine is developed.

We are seeing a roughly similar pattern everywhere - I suspect we have more immunity than estimated.

We need to keep slowing the virus, but it could be petering out by itself.

— Professor Karol Sikora (@ProfKarolSikora) May 16, 2020

Professor Pangloss suggests the virus could burn out before a vaccine arrives. Wrt more immunity than estimated wouldn't it imply infections in older adults would probably be at a lower level than in younger ones?

What's the saying... "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

First waves always fizzle out eventually, or rather die down to background noise, so the professor isn't saying anything new.

The key is not to repeat what happened in the likes of 1918!

(Chart from Wiki, showing the second and third wave of the 1918 flu outbreak in the UK).

Edited: chart is the whole of the UK, not just London.

More good news!

Coronavirus: UK daily death figure dips to lowest since day after lockdown.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52699483. 

 

What's the saying... "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

First waves always fizzle out eventually, or rather die down to background noise, so the professor isn't saying anything new.

The key is not to repeat what happened in the likes of 1918!

(Chart from Wiki, showing the second and third wave of the 1918 flu outbreak in London).

 Indeed. That was my thought too.

 

A top Public School I know had a special relationship with a local Comprehensive School with the aim of improving "views" on both sides. The thing that most struck the comp kids was that the annual fees [then] per pupil in the public school exceeded their parents' annual family incomes. I suspect the quality of teaching was similar in both institutions, certainly very good, and the abilities of pupils was not that different either - also very good - so what was the advantage in the private sector?  Getting kids away from their parents and peers for much of the year? You tell me.

R.

Yes, I've heard of similar relationships between public schools and those in the state sector. 

There are often bursaries and scholarships available in public schools to help those who cannot afford the fees.

Where the school has an entrance examination then the abilities/potential of the pupils will be higher than in a comprehensive school. Then you have the aspirations of the parents and the home environment: if you're paying thousands of pounds for your child's education you are expecting it to give them an advantage in life through bother higher academic qualifications and extracurricular activities.

From talking with my brother over the years it seems that there are the disruptive minority in every class that makes it more difficult for the others to be taught and to learn. In my experience you just don't get that in a public school.

As for getting kids away from their parents, that's only true of boarding schools and even then only those where you board for the entire term/half-term. 

Professor Pangloss suggests the virus could burn out before a vaccine arrives. Wrt more immunity than estimated wouldn't it imply infections in older adults would probably be at a lower level than in younger ones?

 

There is a real chance that the virus will burn out naturally before any vaccine is developed.

We are seeing a roughly similar pattern everywhere - I suspect we have more immunity than estimated.

We need to keep slowing the virus, but it could be petering out by itself.

— Professor Karol Sikora (@ProfKarolSikora) May 16, 2020

He's a dangerous twat. He is not an expert in this field, but tries to pass himself off as such. Check him out on wikipedia.

Professor Pangloss suggests the virus could burn out before a vaccine arrives. Wrt more immunity than estimated wouldn't it imply infections in older adults would probably be at a lower level than in younger ones?

 

There is a real chance that the virus will burn out naturally before any vaccine is developed.

We are seeing a roughly similar pattern everywhere - I suspect we have more immunity than estimated.

We need to keep slowing the virus, but it could be petering out by itself.

— Professor Karol Sikora (@ProfKarolSikora) May 16, 2020

Huh? If the virus is petering out it's because its been locked down. The is no doubt that a lock down (aka as stopping people moving about so spreading the virus) works.

 

He's a dangerous twat. He is not an expert in this field, but tries to pass himself off as such. Check him out on wikipedia.

Ahh, right

University of Buckingham eh...

Alternative medicines....

And available for interview by the Daily Mail no doubt...