Why wasnt't the Peak District, Pennines and Cumbrian Fells put under a red warning? 

The winds were really strong last night here near sea level. You got powdery snow, huge drifts forming, trees reportedly coming down, so why no red warning for these areas?

I certainly think the hazards were underplayed in parts of NW England. 

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For here in the Wirral, again the front stalled just to the south of us, literally got within maybe 3 miles of our house... we got some light snow, and there was some patchy small drifts about this morning (1-2 inches near walls) but thats as bad as its been here.

The next front seemingly does the same again stalls or disapates near cheshire, then reforms over northern england.

I dont usually moan - its weather afterall, but honestly - to get so close to seeing proper snow..

Places down south seem to regularly do well for 1-2ft of snow.. Ive never in my life seen anything more than say 5-6inches. It just doesnt happen here.. whereas other places if 1ft snow doesnt fall - its classed as a bad winter.

Roll on spring.

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Was supposed to be travelling to Sheffield on Saturday; the girls are in a comp there. We were making our own way there, but half the squad were going on a coach.

The coach company has now cancelled the journey because 'of the risks of travelling on the M62'. The squad's now pulled out of the competition completely.

FFS. It's two days away. Likely to be less cold by then - and even if not, the road will have been ploughed and gritted.

I was proper looking forward to the drive, too.

Yes, I hate this... People seem incapable of looking further than their own nose and that things change!

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How the hell is the M62 - the main trans-Pennine arterial route between two of the biggest conurbations in the country - still closed?

I get that the snow moved in at a not great time yesterday morning, but come on! It's at the most a foot. I've driven over the tops on that road in a full-on snowstorm where the snow at the side of the motorway was about 6' deep; the motorway was down to 1 lane for most of the high-altitude part with the outside lane under a good foot. Yet we still kept moving. This was at night.

Perhaps the sheer number of vehicles played a part - but that in turn should serve to flatten/melt the snow. I personally think the bedwetting fraternity, those who panic when driving in snow, are heavily to blame. Those and lorry drivers, whose inability to keep their rigs moving up a hill in a straight line was apparently the trigger for the traffic stopping

Whatever, it's an embarrassment that it remains closed after 24 hours.

If the authorities cannot keep the main trans-Pennine route properly ploughed and cleared, then perhaps they should ban lorries from using it when it snows, and fine any mentally-deficient numpty from travelling on it (which would include most women)

It's a disgrace.

 

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And another thing while I'm in the moaning mood.

There's too many pinned topics. That leaves room for only a handful of threads below that on page 1, so threads easily slip into page 2 oblivion

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I don't really understand why the M62 is closed still. How can they not even open so much as one lane? It's amazing to think just a few miles away the snow could be even a couple of inches deep. Once again it seems like anywhere in a pretty much straight line west from Manchester has missed out. Just a positioning and altitude issue I guess. Never mind. We'll get all the precipitation come summer!

And another thing while I'm in the moaning mood.

There's too many pinned topics. That leaves room for only a handful of threads below that on page 1, so threads easily slip into page 2 oblivion

I removed 2 or 3 a couple of days ago, too!

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I don't really understand why the M62 is closed still. How can they not even open so much as one lane? It's amazing to think just a few miles away the snow could be even a couple of inches deep. Once again it seems like anywhere in a pretty much straight line west from Manchester has missed out. Just a positioning and altitude issue I guess. Never mind. We'll get all the precipitation come summer!

 

Come join the support thread:

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twocommunity/default.aspx?g=posts&t=18673

 

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Woah! Perhaps a touch of political incorrectness creeping in there Saint

 

My moan is that someone or something has stolen my snow cover overnight! There was a decent covering on the grass when I went to bed but now it's mostly gone with great patches of grass showing through. It can't possibly have thawed as it's still sub zero. I've looked at the west end of the garden looking for it piled up in a drift somewhere but it's not there! Whoever the dirty rotten rascals are I hope they got very cold hands in the process! Just about to call 101 to report it...

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It's just nasty here now, -2.2 C with 90% humidity just making it super cold and clammy with the wind still being a fresh easterly - and of course, with the local lack of snow. Even with the heating on full blast with a warm cat laying on my legs, my fingers are feeling like ice.

It's getting beyond a joke now.

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For here in the Wirral, again the front stalled just to the south of us, literally got within maybe 3 miles of our house... we got some light snow, and there was some patchy small drifts about this morning (1-2 inches near walls) but thats as bad as its been here.

The next front seemingly does the same again stalls or disapates near cheshire, then reforms over northern england.

I dont usually moan - its weather afterall, but honestly - to get so close to seeing proper snow..

Places down south seem to regularly do well for 1-2ft of snow.. Ive never in my life seen anything more than say 5-6inches. It just doesnt happen here.. whereas other places if 1ft snow doesnt fall - its classed as a bad winter.

Roll on spring.

No more than 2 inches of snow here this week, and that's the most for over 5 years. We have only had more than 5 inches once in the entire time I've lived in Berkshire (25 years), which was in January 2010 when we got 9 inches. 1-2 feet of snow... never!

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It's just nasty here now, -2.2 C with 90% humidity just making it super cold and clammy with the wind still being a fresh easterly - and of course, with the local lack of snow. Even with the heating on full blast with a warm cat laying on my legs, my fingers are feeling like ice.

It's getting beyond a joke now.

 

Come join the support thread:

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twocommunity/default.aspx?g=posts&t=18673

 

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No more than 2 inches of snow here this week, and that's the most for over 5 years. We have only had more than 5 inches once in the entire time I've lived in Berkshire (25 years), which was in January 2010 when we got 9 inches. 1-2 feet of snow... never!

 

You're welcome, too

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twocommunity/default.aspx?g=posts&t=18673

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For here in the Wirral, again the front stalled just to the south of us, literally got within maybe 3 miles of our house... we got some light snow, and there was some patchy small drifts about this morning (1-2 inches near walls) but thats as bad as its been here.

The next front seemingly does the same again stalls or disapates near cheshire, then reforms over northern england.

I dont usually moan - its weather afterall, but honestly - to get so close to seeing proper snow..

Places down south seem to regularly do well for 1-2ft of snow.. Ive never in my life seen anything more than say 5-6inches. It just doesnt happen here.. whereas other places if 1ft snow doesnt fall - its classed as a bad winter.

Roll on spring.

 

And you, Russ... don't be shy

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twocommunity/default.aspx?g=posts&t=18673

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I removed 2 or 3 a couple of days ago, too!

In addition to that, I was wondering whether or not, an option could be added (either through website cookies, or as a profile option under the account which a member is logged in under) which would allow a member to change the number of threads which are listed for each page on each forum (this of course, would apply not just to the main weather forum but to all of the other forums as well).

I am aware that this could hinder loading times if more threads are listed on each page, but it would help members to see more of what threads are there and thus, reduce the number of threads which slipping into the obscurity of page 2 and below.

Maybe, something for Brian and the team to think about there.

EDIT:

One example of where this could be useful comes from the fact that a lot of members might not be aware that there is actually already a spring moaning thread since that is down somewhere on page 2 or below.

 

 

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And another thing...

That train that broke down near the New Forest last evening and has been stuck ever since. The media making out it's yet another example of 'Emma and The Beast' wreaking it's snowmageddon havoc.

It wasn't due to snow. The train was just knackered.

I personally think the train operating company executives should be fined heavily for leaving it be - why the hell did they not send out another locomotive to shunt the broken-down train along to the next station? Probably cost. Profits before people and all that.

 

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I don't really understand why the M62 is closed still. How can they not even open so much as one lane? It's amazing to think just a few miles away the snow could be even a couple of inches deep. Once again it seems like anywhere in a pretty much straight line west from Manchester has missed out. Just a positioning and altitude issue I guess. Never mind. We'll get all the precipitation come summer!

This was just posted on UKWeatherworld by a member called Another Weather Enthusiast. I think this is why. The wind was strong and with all that powdery snow, I just can't see how the M62 could safely remain open in that area under those conditions. Yesterday, it resembled the high Pennines down here near sea level. Gawd knows what it was like up there.

"Police say wind speeds over the Rakewood Viaduct in Greater Manchester had reached 90mph"

I was unlucky enough to be caught up in the M62 chaos. Tried leaving Milnrow (jct 21) on the M62 around 11am to get back to Leeds. During the course of the next 11 hours I tried to find an alternative route. Gridlock traffic everywhere. I eventually gave up and took upon an epic drive to get home - M62 (westbound), M60, M6 (south), A50 to Derby, then followed signs to Nottingham, to join the M1, then up to Leeds. Got home at 01:30 this morning, after been up since 04:30 the previous morning!! 
I was just to the lee side of the Rakewood Viaduct and obviously a Foehn effect was in force due to the easterly crossing the Pennine chain. I hate hysteria and the mainstream media sensationalising, but conditions around there were truly bad. A snow drift trying to leave Littleborough on the A58 was about 9ft high partially blocking one side of the road and the wind was whipping the snow around to near constant white-out conditions. Crazy! 

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It's bloody raining!

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I was just to the lee side of the Rakewood Viaduct and obviously a Foehn effect was in force due to the easterly crossing the Pennine chain. I hate hysteria and the mainstream media sensationalising, but conditions around there were truly bad. A snow drift trying to leave Littleborough on the A58 was about 9ft high partially blocking one side of the road and the wind was whipping the snow around to near constant white-out conditions. Crazy! 

I like this idea. It conjures up the image of snowdrifts wandering around Lancashire seeking to devour unsuspecting motorists

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And another thing...

That train that broke down near the New Forest last evening and has been stuck ever since. The media making out it's yet another example of 'Emma and The Beast' wreaking it's snowmageddon havoc.

It wasn't due to snow. The train was just knackered.

I personally think the train operating company executives should be fined heavily for leaving it be - why the hell did they not send out another locomotive to shunt the broken-down train along to the next station? Probably cost. Profits before people and all that.

 

Sounds like it's frozen in time. 

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