My snow depth was measured accurately at 5:30pm in a number of non-drifted locations. Unfortunately the streamer that was heading this way has disintegrated somewhat but it is still giving a few showers currently. That type of thing has been the most frustrating — seeing models and forecasts promise so much just for the convergence zone or other feature to end up further north and areas to the the north, south and west getting significantly more snow. Aberdeen must have been one of the few local authorities in eastern Britain not to have had school snow days.

Seems to have disintegrated completely. Not even getting any showers here at all but can see the snow bearing clouds breaking up to the north. It's beyond a joke  

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You probably need an Arctic NW or NNWly producing a Cheshire Gap effect. When was the last time you had one of them?  A stalling front like February 1996. A polar low tracking through the Wirral into the Cheshie Gap. 

Yes heavy settling snow on the Wirral doesn't happen very often, December 3rd 2010 dumped about 8 inches in New Brighton when I visited my parents, that was probably the most intense rate of snowfall I've ever experienced.

And in all those years to come, when people reference this event and talk of it being 'legendary', we'll get that plunging sensation in the pit of our stomachs as we remember our briefly-laying couple of cm's and missing out on all the snowy fun.

 

Saint

You are complaining about your couple of cms or was it 3cm?

There's a member on netweather called reef, he's been recording weather data for his location for over 30 years.

Do you what know his greatest snow depth was? 1cm

Do you know where he lives? 

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And your complaining about your inch?  

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Saint

You are complaining about your couple of cms or was it 3cm?

There's a member on netweather called reef, he's been recording weather data for his location for over 30 years.

Do you what know his greatest snow depth was? 1cm

Do you know where he lives? 

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And your complaining about your inch?  

 

Most of it was gone by the afternoon.

Not sure how another person's snowfall history is relevant to me, though. 

My annoyance is chiefly related to the snow shield effect - how the boundary of decent snow to our east and south has doggedly remained about 30 miles away.

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Not sure how another person's snowfall history is relevant to me, though. 

 

It's called a comparison, Saint. Comparing records. You find that a lot when dabbling with weather data.....

 

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This topic's subtitle, "Its a southern thing", perhaps needs to be renamed "It's a coastal West Sussex, Portsmouth, Lancashire and Aberdeen thing". 

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fell asleep on the couch last night for 15 mins after a whole day of watching the radar get close to, but die about 10 miles short.

The odd flurry in the air as small echoes were reaching us... I woke about 1015pm looked out and a shower had just past over leaving around 8mm of snow.

I missed the only snowfall after chasing it for say 48 hrs.

Cheated

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It's called a comparison, Saint. Comparing records. You find that a lot when dabbling with weather data.... 

 

Shall I compare my snow record with Cairngorm instead then? 

I don't think I do too bad here compared to the whole country. But this recent spell has really pee'd me off.

Anyway, the thin cover of snow still lying in my back garden is slowly thawing and becoming very patchy. And my icicles have disappeared.

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Shows the variability even close by. In MBY both Jan & March 13 delivered much deeper snowfalls (3x >10cm, 1x ~5cm, one or two other coverings). We had deeper snow that this poxy spell has delivered on at three occasions in 2013/14, 2014/15, 2015/16, 2016/17 (including around 7cm on Boxing Day night 2014)

 

Yep this is the interesting thing. Jan and March 2013 were crap in my part of Manchester with barely any snow. 

My theory is Manchester does better on convective easterlies, whereas Merseyside does better when fronts are involved. 

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Yep this is the interesting thing. Jan and March 2013 were crap in my part of Manchester with barely any snow. 

My theory is Manchester does better on convective easterlies, whereas Merseyside does better when fronts are involved. 

 

You could be right. I can't remember the exact weekends of the Mar 13 events (and they both happened on Friday nights!) because the laptop the pics are held on is currently a bit knackered and Photobucket hasn't date-marked the couple of loaded up. But at least one was from a front moving in from the east.

I was looking at the motorway webcam screenshots I took of the Jan 25th 13 fall from the M62 and M6 skirting St Helens and they're staggeringly good. The mad thing is, the synoptics for that date are, when looked at in isolation, poor (850's are approaching 0c). But when you look backwards, there was a cold pool (-10c 850's) in situ the day before after a NE'ly flow. The snow lasted on the ground just a couple of days. 

2013 was the year our sledges got a battering!

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Unfortunately with any spell some people will get lucky and others will be unlucky. Deep cold doesn't automatically mean everywhere will get snow. Although it's hard to remember that when you are looking at eye watering charts.

I think if some parts of East Yorkshire did only get 1cm this can be classed as very unlucky and a big shock given the setup. I would be devastated if I lived there as I would expect the right to deep snow in this setup.

The NW was always going to be the place that required some luck in this setup to get snow so it's not that surprising that some parts missed out although other parts of the NW did really well. But your time will come. You will probably get a disruptive snowfall in a cold spell that is less hyped and less covered by the media.

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But your time will come. You will probably get a disruptive snowfall in a cold spell that is less hyped and less covered by the media.

 

That's often the case! Like I said earlier in the thread, we don't do that badly here - but it does often seem to be during spells that the media takes little/no notice of.

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In fairness, our best snowfall of the past 30 years occurred during a winter that very few people remember.

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You could be right. I can't remember the exact weekends of the Mar 13 events (and they both happened on Friday nights!) because the laptop the pics are held on is currently a bit knackered and Photobucket hasn't date-marked the couple of loaded up. But at least one was from a front moving in from the east.

I was looking at the motorway webcam screenshots I took of the Jan 25th 13 fall from the M62 and M6 skirting St Helens and they're staggeringly good. The mad thing is, the synoptics for that date are, when looked at in isolation, poor (850's are approaching 0c). But when you look backwards, there was a cold pool (-10c 850's) in situ the day before after a NE'ly flow. The snow lasted on the ground just a couple of days. 

2013 was the year our sledges got a battering!

I remember my absolute fury when the precipitation rapidly fizzled out as it hit Manchester.

The stuff from the east would hammer the Pennines, fizzle out as it hit Manchester, and then reinvigorate at Warrington. Liverpool did really well IIRC. The stuff from the west did the same the opposite way round. 

It happened in both January and March, over and over again. 

It’s clear that frontal events and convective showers give very mixed fortunes for our patch. 

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I really wished this had occurred back in January!

Would crave some spring warmth now - sad to see snow go and drip drip but good that I CAN get out and drive ha! Horrible freezing rain - temp now dropped a further 1c since early hours down to 3.9c now with heavy rain - it could turn sleety again if it continues to fall. Be careful up north you have a lot of weather heading your way!

I may use this opportunity to rant at the fact the whole of next week looks unsettled and cold.

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What I've learnt from this 'historic' cold spell is that even with a rare set of meteorological events producing a legendary 'Beast from the East' my lowland east coast location hardly gets any snow, even though the wind was coming off the same sea as it was in Kent, Norfolk, Suffolk, Lincolnshire, N.Yorkshire, Northumberland which all saw impressive snowfalls, and towns cut off our total for the past week was 1.5" (4cm) and that all fell in two heavy showers, one on Tuesday morning the other Wednesday night, which had virtually disappeared by first light...if anyone has any ideas how this can actually happen I'd like to know them, 30yrs I waited for something like this to come along...! my family don't appreciate how depressing this week was...I can sympathise entirely with Reef, however I live 15 miles further east on the coast in Withernsea so we also have the salty sea air to contend with too, and with the gale that was blowing for 3 days it's effect was massive, Hedon got more snow than we did...I saw at least 2" in places on Tuesday morning as I slowly drove through to work...still snow cover on the ground in Hull y/day...!

What I've learnt from this 'historic' cold spell is that even with a rare set of meteorological events producing a legendary 'Beast from the East' my lowland east coast location hardly gets any snow, even though the wind was coming off the same sea as it was in Kent, Norfolk, Suffolk, Lincolnshire, N.Yorkshire, Northumberland which all saw impressive snowfalls, and towns cut off our total for the past week was 1.5" (4cm) and that all fell in two heavy showers, one on Tuesday morning the other Wednesday night, which had virtually disappeared by first light...if anyone has any ideas how this can actually happen I'd like to know them, 30yrs I waited for something like this to come along...! my family don't appreciate how depressing this week was...I can sympathise entirely with Reef, however I live 15 miles further east on the coast in Withernsea so we also have the salty sea air to contend with too, and with the gale that was blowing for 3 days it's effect was massive, Hedon got more snow than we did...I saw at least 2" in places on Tuesday morning as I slowly drove through to work...still snow cover on the ground in Hull y/day...!

That's poor, even I got a little more than you did. However were you not just simply very unlucky? It was always said that the showers were aligning in bands with some places copping for shower after shower and others even quite nearby getting hardly anything at all. Perhaps you simply happened to be somewhere that by chance always seemed to miss out.

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Saint

You are complaining about your couple of cms or was it 3cm?

There's a member on netweather called reef, he's been recording weather data for his location for over 30 years.

Do you what know his greatest snow depth was? 1cm

Do you know where he lives? 

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And your complaining about your inch?  

He only had no more than a cm even in Dec 2010?

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What I've learnt from this 'historic' cold spell is that even with a rare set of meteorological events producing a legendary 'Beast from the East' my lowland east coast location hardly gets any snow, even though the wind was coming off the same sea as it was in Kent, Norfolk, Suffolk, Lincolnshire, N.Yorkshire, Northumberland which all saw impressive snowfalls, and towns cut off our total for the past week was 1.5" (4cm) and that all fell in two heavy showers, one on Tuesday morning the other Wednesday night, which had virtually disappeared by first light...if anyone has any ideas how this can actually happen I'd like to know them, 30yrs I waited for something like this to come along...! my family don't appreciate how depressing this week was...I can sympathise entirely with Reef, however I live 15 miles further east on the coast in Withernsea so we also have the salty sea air to contend with too, and with the gale that was blowing for 3 days it's effect was massive, Hedon got more snow than we did...I saw at least 2" in places on Tuesday morning as I slowly drove through to work...still snow cover on the ground in Hull y/day...!

Although I had 9cm here in Suffolk, places a few miles to the west of me had less, so not massively different to you. It was lovely snow though... even 4cm of powder (which it must have been) would have felt very wintry.

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He only had no more than a cm even in Dec 2010?

I find it impossible to believe that somebody in eastern England has never recorded more than 1cm snow in over 30 years.

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