speckledjim
10 February 2014 14:57:23

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 

Wettest winters on record for England and Wales
423.0 1914-15
420.9 1989-90
418.3 1876-77
415.6 1994-95
388.3 1993-94
380.6 1868-69
374.3 1959-60
373.5 1915-16
363.0 1965-66
362.0 1936-37
340.8 2013-14 up to 5th Feb.


 


I don't know whether you've got regionalised data, but [and I'll say this quietly], it doesn't seem to have been *that* wet a winter in these parts. I can certainly remember winters, even in recent years, that seemed a fair bit wetter. I cross the Glaze Brook every day on the M62 and it's not even threatened the top of the bank. Similarly, I walk over the Medlock in Manchester most days and that's rarely been above normal (and even then only just above normal)


I think there was a Met Office graphic map that illustrated this well (to the e/o Jan)



I agree, it hasn't been particularly wet in my part of West Yorkshire - we are protected by the Peninnes so we are drier than further west.


Thorner, West Yorkshire


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RobN
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  • Advanced Member
10 February 2014 15:08:36

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 

Wettest winters on record for England and Wales
423.0 1914-15
420.9 1989-90
418.3 1876-77
415.6 1994-95
388.3 1993-94
380.6 1868-69
374.3 1959-60
373.5 1915-16
363.0 1965-66
362.0 1936-37
340.8 2013-14 up to 5th Feb.


 


I don't know whether you've got regionalised data, but [and I'll say this quietly], it doesn't seem to have been *that* wet a winter in these parts. I can certainly remember winters, even in recent years, that seemed a fair bit wetter. I cross the Glaze Brook every day on the M62 and it's not even threatened the top of the bank. Similarly, I walk over the Medlock in Manchester most days and that's rarely been above normal (and even then only just above normal)


I think there was a Met Office graphic map that illustrated this well (to the e/o Jan)



I've not seen a cumulative actual for winter to date yet, but the individual completed months are available:


Dec 2013


Jan 2014


Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
lanky
10 February 2014 15:16:04

Originally Posted by: RobN 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 

Wettest winters on record for England and Wales
423.0 1914-15
420.9 1989-90
418.3 1876-77
415.6 1994-95
388.3 1993-94
380.6 1868-69
374.3 1959-60
373.5 1915-16
363.0 1965-66
362.0 1936-37
340.8 2013-14 up to 5th Feb.


 


I don't know whether you've got regionalised data, but [and I'll say this quietly], it doesn't seem to have been *that* wet a winter in these parts. I can certainly remember winters, even in recent years, that seemed a fair bit wetter. I cross the Glaze Brook every day on the M62 and it's not even threatened the top of the bank. Similarly, I walk over the Medlock in Manchester most days and that's rarely been above normal (and even then only just above normal)


I think there was a Met Office graphic map that illustrated this well (to the e/o Jan)



I've not seen a cumulative actual for winter to date yet, but the individual completed months are available:


Dec 2013


Jan 2014



Kevin is getting day by day updates as they happen (like you can get for month-to-date CET) - I'd love to know where these are kept


Martin
Richmond, Surrey
KevBrads1
11 February 2014 05:45:41
Wettest winters on record for England and Wales
423.0 1914-15
420.9 1989-90
418.3 1876-77
415.6 1994-95
388.3 1993-94
380.6 1868-69
374.3 1959-60
373.5 1915-16
372.8 2013-14 up to 9th Feb
MANCHESTER SUMMER INDEX for 2021: 238
Timelapses, old weather forecasts and natural phenomena videos can be seen on this site
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgrSD1BwFz2feWDTydhpEhQ/playlists
UncleAlbert
11 February 2014 08:03:13

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 

Wettest winters on record for England and Wales 423.0 1914-15 420.9 1989-90 418.3 1876-77 415.6 1994-95 388.3 1993-94 380.6 1868-69 374.3 1959-60 373.5 1915-16 372.8 2013-14 up to 9th Feb


Looking like No 1 by the weekend then.


So unfortunately this thread will no longer be about 1914-15.

KevBrads1
11 February 2014 08:40:37
Wettest seasons on record for England and Wales: W for winter, S for summer, A for autumn

A 502.7 2000
A 455.8 1852
A 438.6 1960
A 424.1 1935
W 423.0 1914-15
W 420.9 1989-90
W 418.3 1876-77
W 415.6 1994-95
S 409.7 1912
S 409.2 1879
A 402.4 1770
A 400.6 1772
A 399.1 1875
A 398.7 1768
A 396.9 1799
A 396.8 1976
S 396.3 1829
A 394.3 1872
A 391.1 1903
W 388.3 1993-94
A 387.9 1825
A 384.6 1841
W 380.6 1868-69
A 379.1 1880
A 378.9 1773
A 378.1 1954
A 377.9 1974
A 377.8 1794
A 377.5 1944
W 374.3 1959-60
S 375.2 2012
W 373.5 1915-16
W 372.8 2013-14 up to 9th Feb
MANCHESTER SUMMER INDEX for 2021: 238
Timelapses, old weather forecasts and natural phenomena videos can be seen on this site
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgrSD1BwFz2feWDTydhpEhQ/playlists
lanky
11 February 2014 09:50:35

Originally Posted by: lanky 


Kevin is getting day by day updates as they happen (like you can get for month-to-date CET) - I'd love to know where these are kept



I think I located them (and other interesting stats too):


http://www.met.reading.ac.uk/~brugge/CURR.html


To get a UK average it's quite easy to copy and paste the data in this table into Excel and take an average of the rainfall column (52.2mm up to 10th Feb)


 


Martin
Richmond, Surrey
Hungry Tiger
11 February 2014 13:01:37

Cheers Kevin - thanks for the latest stats there.


Gavin S. FRmetS.
TWO Moderator.
Contact the TWO team - [email protected]
South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.


Hungry Tiger
11 February 2014 13:01:53

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 

Wettest seasons on record for England and Wales: W for winter, S for summer, A for autumn A 502.7 2000 A 455.8 1852 A 438.6 1960 A 424.1 1935 W 423.0 1914-15 W 420.9 1989-90 W 418.3 1876-77 W 415.6 1994-95 S 409.7 1912 S 409.2 1879 A 402.4 1770 A 400.6 1772 A 399.1 1875 A 398.7 1768 A 396.9 1799 A 396.8 1976 S 396.3 1829 A 394.3 1872 A 391.1 1903 W 388.3 1993-94 A 387.9 1825 A 384.6 1841 W 380.6 1868-69 A 379.1 1880 A 378.9 1773 A 378.1 1954 A 377.9 1974 A 377.8 1794 A 377.5 1944 W 374.3 1959-60 S 375.2 2012 W 373.5 1915-16 W 372.8 2013-14 up to 9th Feb


 


Thanks Kevin.


Gavin S. FRmetS.
TWO Moderator.
Contact the TWO team - [email protected]
South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.


Hungry Tiger
11 February 2014 13:02:22

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 

Wettest winters on record for England and Wales 423.0 1914-15 420.9 1989-90 418.3 1876-77 415.6 1994-95 388.3 1993-94 380.6 1868-69 374.3 1959-60 373.5 1915-16 372.8 2013-14 up to 9th Feb




 


Gavin S. FRmetS.
TWO Moderator.
Contact the TWO team - [email protected]
South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.


Hungry Tiger
11 February 2014 13:09:54

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 

Wettest winters on record for England and Wales 423.0 1914-15 420.9 1989-90 418.3 1876-77 415.6 1994-95 388.3 1993-94 380.6 1868-69 374.3 1959-60 373.5 1915-16 372.8 2013-14 up to 9th Feb



Only 60mm to go.


 


Gavin S. FRmetS.
TWO Moderator.
Contact the TWO team - [email protected]
South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.


TimS
  • TimS
  • Advanced Member
11 February 2014 16:46:20
Only 50mm in fact. The 2000 seasonal record looks pretty safe though. Another 130mm in 2 weeks ain't going to happen.

I don't know about others, but my weather stats brain is now urging on the rainfall for the rest of the month so we can secure the record.
Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Ally Pally Snowman
11 February 2014 17:30:25
Originally Posted by: TimS 

Only 50mm in fact. The 2000 seasonal record looks pretty safe though. Another 130mm in 2 weeks ain't going to happen.

I don't know about others, but my weather stats brain is now urging on the rainfall for the rest of the month so we can secure the record.



All depends on the last week the Meto are going for 50mm - 80mm quite widely by Saturday. We definitely have a chance for the all time season record


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
11 February 2014 19:56:10
Originally Posted by: lanky 

Originally Posted by: lanky 


Kevin is getting day by day updates as they happen (like you can get for month-to-date CET) - I'd love to know where these are kept


I think I located them (and other interesting stats too):
http://www.met.reading.ac.uk/~brugge/CURR.html 
To get a UK average it's quite easy to copy and paste the data in this table into Excel and take an average of the rainfall column (52.2mm up to 10th Feb)



The quickest place to get them is here. Easy to tab between the charts by month and by region

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadukp/charts/hadukp_daily_plots.html 
lanky
11 February 2014 22:18:41

Originally Posted by: Global Warming 

Originally Posted by: lanky 

Originally Posted by: lanky 

Kevin is getting day by day updates as they happen (like you can get for month-to-date CET) - I'd love to know where these are kept

I think I located them (and other interesting stats too): http://www.met.reading.ac.uk/~brugge/CURR.html  To get a UK average it's quite easy to copy and paste the data in this table into Excel and take an average of the rainfall column (52.2mm up to 10th Feb)

The quickest place to get them is here. Easy to tab between the charts by month and by region http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadukp/charts/hadukp_daily_plots.html


 


Thanks GW - that;s a better link


Bookmarked


Martin
Richmond, Surrey
KevBrads1
12 February 2014 05:41:43
Wettest winters on record for England and Wales
423.0 1914-15
420.9 1989-90
418.3 1876-77
415.6 1994-95
388.3 1993-94
380.6 1868-69
378.8 2013-14. Up to 10th February

Wettest seasons on record for England and Wales: W for winter, S for summer, A for autumn
A 502.7 2000
A 455.8 1852
A 438.6 1960
A 424.1 1935
W 423.0 1914-15
W 420.9 1989-90
W 418.3 1876-77
W 415.6 1994-95
S 409.7 1912
S 409.2 1879
A 402.4 1770
A 400.6 1772
A 399.1 1875
A 398.7 1768
A 396.9 1799
A 396.8 1976
S 396.3 1829
A 394.3 1872
A 391.1 1903
W 388.3 1993-94
A 387.9 1825
A 384.6 1841
W 380.6 1868-69
A 379.1 1880
A 378.9 1773
W 378.8 2013-14 up to 10th February
MANCHESTER SUMMER INDEX for 2021: 238
Timelapses, old weather forecasts and natural phenomena videos can be seen on this site
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgrSD1BwFz2feWDTydhpEhQ/playlists
Hungry Tiger
12 February 2014 11:02:23

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 

Wettest winters on record for England and Wales
423.0 1914-15
420.9 1989-90
418.3 1876-77
415.6 1994-95
388.3 1993-94
380.6 1868-69
378.8 2013-14. Up to 10th February

Wettest seasons on record for England and Wales: W for winter, S for summer, A for autumn
A 502.7 2000
A 455.8 1852
A 438.6 1960
A 424.1 1935
W 423.0 1914-15
W 420.9 1989-90
W 418.3 1876-77
W 415.6 1994-95
S 409.7 1912
S 409.2 1879
A 402.4 1770
A 400.6 1772
A 399.1 1875
A 398.7 1768
A 396.9 1799
A 396.8 1976
S 396.3 1829
A 394.3 1872
A 391.1 1903
W 388.3 1993-94
A 387.9 1825
A 384.6 1841
W 380.6 1868-69
A 379.1 1880
A 378.9 1773
W 378.8 2013-14 up to 10th February



The gap closes for the wettest winter - somehow I don't think we'll break the all time wettest season on record.


 


Gavin S. FRmetS.
TWO Moderator.
Contact the TWO team - [email protected]
South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.


Rob K
12 February 2014 16:43:28

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 

Wettest winters on record for England and Wales
423.0 1914-15
420.9 1989-90
418.3 1876-77
415.6 1994-95
388.3 1993-94
380.6 1868-69
378.8 2013-14. Up to 10th February

Wettest seasons on record for England and Wales: W for winter, S for summer, A for autumn
A 502.7 2000
A 455.8 1852
A 438.6 1960
A 424.1 1935
W 423.0 1914-15
W 420.9 1989-90
W 418.3 1876-77
W 415.6 1994-95
S 409.7 1912
S 409.2 1879
A 402.4 1770
A 400.6 1772
A 399.1 1875
A 398.7 1768
A 396.9 1799
A 396.8 1976
S 396.3 1829
A 394.3 1872
A 391.1 1903
W 388.3 1993-94
A 387.9 1825
A 384.6 1841
W 380.6 1868-69
A 379.1 1880
A 378.9 1773
W 378.8 2013-14 up to 10th February



The gap closes for the wettest winter - somehow I don't think we'll break the all time wettest season on record.


 



I'd say we're nailed on for wettest winter and a top 3 wettest season ever, probably at least no 2 on that list. And if GFS is more correct than ECM today, then autumn 2000 could well be beaten.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Hungry Tiger
12 February 2014 20:18:54

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 

Wettest winters on record for England and Wales
423.0 1914-15
420.9 1989-90
418.3 1876-77
415.6 1994-95
388.3 1993-94
380.6 1868-69
378.8 2013-14. Up to 10th February

Wettest seasons on record for England and Wales: W for winter, S for summer, A for autumn
A 502.7 2000
A 455.8 1852
A 438.6 1960
A 424.1 1935
W 423.0 1914-15
W 420.9 1989-90
W 418.3 1876-77
W 415.6 1994-95
S 409.7 1912
S 409.2 1879
A 402.4 1770
A 400.6 1772
A 399.1 1875
A 398.7 1768
A 396.9 1799
A 396.8 1976
S 396.3 1829
A 394.3 1872
A 391.1 1903
W 388.3 1993-94
A 387.9 1825
A 384.6 1841
W 380.6 1868-69
A 379.1 1880
A 378.9 1773
W 378.8 2013-14 up to 10th February



The gap closes for the wettest winter - somehow I don't think we'll break the all time wettest season on record.


 



I'd say we're nailed on for wettest winter and a top 3 wettest season ever, probably at least no 2 on that list. And if GFS is more correct than ECM today, then autumn 2000 could well be beaten.



 After what I experienced this afternoon I agree with you there - and of course we're getting another lot on Friday.



Gavin S. FRmetS.
TWO Moderator.
Contact the TWO team - [email protected]
South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.


Chiltern Blizzard
12 February 2014 21:57:24

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 

Wettest seasons on record for England and Wales: W for winter, S for summer, A for autumn

A 502.7 2000
A 455.8 1852
A 438.6 1960
A 424.1 1935
W 423.0 1914-15
W 420.9 1989-90
W 418.3 1876-77
W 415.6 1994-95
S 409.7 1912
S 409.2 1879
A 402.4 1770
A 400.6 1772
A 399.1 1875
A 398.7 1768
A 396.9 1799
A 396.8 1976
S 396.3 1829
A 394.3 1872
A 391.1 1903
W 388.3 1993-94
A 387.9 1825
A 384.6 1841
W 380.6 1868-69
A 379.1 1880
A 378.9 1773
A 378.1 1954
A 377.9 1974
A 377.8 1794
A 377.5 1944
W 374.3 1959-60
S 375.2 2012
W 373.5 1915-16
W 372.8 2013-14 up to 9th Feb


Interesting there's not one spring in the list.....  though not entirely surprising given the nature of the general weather patterns at that time of year.


Rendlesham, Suffolk 20m asl
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