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doctormog
13 October 2017 21:34:18

Crickey NHC showing that as a Hurricane as it heads just S/West Ireland >74 substained

Originally Posted by: Polar Low 

">http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT17/refresh/AL172017_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind+png/204751_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind.png

That actually show a post/ex-tropical cyclone with hurricane strength winds (to be pedantic). Quite intense but not a hurricane, despite the ‘H’.


Polar Low
13 October 2017 21:39:27

 Not seen that before M cheers for explaining

 

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Originally Posted by: doctormog 

That actually show a post/ex-tropical cyclone with hurricane strength winds (to be pedantic). Quite intense but not a hurricane, despite the ‘H’.

Brian Gaze
13 October 2017 21:40:03

Arpege has gusts of 90mph in western Ireland. The track on recent model runs has been more consistent than I expected. 


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Quantum
13 October 2017 22:20:02

Going to do a discussion of Ophelia here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbJ73IcpDC4

Live in a few minutes. Going to focus on the extratropical transition.

 

 

 


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

Matty H
14 October 2017 11:56:20

 

Yet people have already shown you that a system can retain tropical characteristics north of 50 degrees, albeit very very rarely. 

Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 

Your suffering from severe Quantumism. 

 

I’ll reiterate for the hard of reading - HURRICANE!! 

 

Your tropical scharacteristic guff isn’t what I am talking about. A HURRICANE HITTING THE UK. It won’t. Ever. Unless global warming ever increases the sea temps around our island and for thousands of miles in every direction to a point where a hurricane had any chance of remaining a hurricane. 

Apologies on the current status error. Doesn’t change what I’m saying though


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Quantum
14 October 2017 12:04:19

 

Your suffering from severe Quantumism. 

 

I’ll reiterate for the hard of reading - HURRICANE!! 

 

Your tropical scharacteristic guff isn’t what I am talking about. A HURRICANE HITTING THE UK. It won’t. Ever. Unless global warming ever increases the sea temps around our island and for thousands of miles in every direction to a point where a hurricane had any chance of remaining a hurricane. 

Apologies on the current status error. Doesn’t change what I’m saying though

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Why are you ignoring the evidence I have presented? 

Tropical cyclones have thrived in low temperatures before; its not irreconcilable. Debate the evidence, how do you explain the likes of Faith, Debbie, 93L, Grace? 

Also I should point out Ophelia is stronger than Debbie and will arrive sooner. ET transitions do not happen instantly, it will take time for Ophelia to weaken. Hell yesterday Fax charts were showing Ophelia as tropical at the same latitude as France. How can you possibly say, in light of all this, that its outright impossible?

 


25/26 (850hpa temp) 11 days snow/sleet falling

18/11 (-4) 19/11 (-6) 20/11 (-6) 01/01 (-7) 04/01 (-10) 10/01 (-7) 11/01 (-3) 30/01 (-1) 13/02 (-6) 15/02 (-4) 18/02 (-6)

24/25 10d

18/11 (-6) 19/11 (-6) 23/11 (-2) 22/12 (-5) 04/01 (-5) 05/01 (0)14/02 (0) 15/02 (0)12/03 (-6) 13/03 (-6)

23/24 8d

29/11 (-6) 30/11 (-6) 02/12 (-5) 03/12 (-5) 04/12 (-3) 16/01 (-3) 18/01 (-8)08/02 (-5)

22/23 7d

18/12 (-1)06/03 (-6) 08/03 (-8) 09/03 (-6) 10/03 (-8) 11/03 (-5) 14/03 (-6)

21/22 12d

Hippydave
14 October 2017 18:48:57

Well if nothing else our post tropical storm (or whatever it ends up as) seems likely to give things a bit of a kick and means the South East joins in with the more unsettled weather we've managed to avoid for a while:-

 


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15 October 2017 06:07:34

With synoptics like these, who needs hurricanes?

GFS has dartboard lows across S Britain on THu and again (more marked) next Sun. UKMO a bit hesitant about the Thursday one but agrees with next weekend. Not only will S England get a share of the action but, regrettably, S Ireland too, just as their clean-up after Ophelia is under way.


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Bertwhistle
15 October 2017 08:33:49

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/chart.aspx?chart=/charts/gefs/gefsens850inverness0.png?cb=257

Snow row making a number of appearances in Inverness


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Bertwhistle
15 October 2017 08:38:00

 

Your suffering from severe Quantumism. 

 

I’ll reiterate for the hard of reading - HURRICANE!! 

 

Your tropical scharacteristic guff isn’t what I am talking about. A HURRICANE HITTING THE UK. It won’t. Ever. Unless global warming ever increases the sea temps around our island and for thousands of miles in every direction to a point where a hurricane had any chance of remaining a hurricane. 

Apologies on the current status error. Doesn’t change what I’m saying though

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

How do you know this? What sources are you using?


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LeedsLad123
15 October 2017 09:51:04

 

How do you know this? What sources are you using?

Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 

The source of 'I am Matty and I am right now shut up'. 


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Gusty
15 October 2017 10:34:45

 The source of 'I am Matty and I am right now shut up'. 

Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 

It used to be mildly amusing and part of the charm but these days its shocking behaviour and verging on trolling IMO. We have lost too many good posters over the years due to this sort of belittlement. ...but hey ho...

With regard to the models. Thursday 19th and Saturday 21st are two such days when there is a growing risk of some potentially damaging wind events in the south. Saturday looks potentially nasty. 


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Sevendust
15 October 2017 10:52:43

 

It used to be mildly amusing and part of the charm but these days its shocking behaviour and verging on trolling IMO. We have lost too many good posters over the years due to this sort of belittlement. ...but hey ho...

With regard to the models. Thursday 19th and Saturday 21st are two such days when there is a growing risk of some potentially damaging wind events in the south. Saturday looks potentially nasty. 

Originally Posted by: Gusty 

Yes the weather is getting interesting again!

FWW, whilst I don't always buy into Q's assessments this is a very unusual situation regarding Ophelia irrespective of how it impacts the UK and Ireland. 

Should keep the AGW proponents happy! 

Charmhills
15 October 2017 11:31:47

Some very unsettled runs round form mid to late week onwards and increasingly cool if not chilly in the wind and rain.

A shock to the system coming up.


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The Beast from the East
15 October 2017 11:34:22

 

 Thursday 19th and Saturday 21st are two such days when there is a growing risk of some potentially damaging wind events in the south. Saturday looks potentially nasty. 

Originally Posted by: Gusty 

Yes, I have been focussing on Ophelia too much and relieved that my garage roof is safe, but perhaps not for too long!

Some very worrying  GEFS members showing up. I assume Thursday's storm will be named Brian, but this one I don't know

 


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The Beast from the East
15 October 2017 11:37:21

A few classic "bombs" in there


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Sevendust
15 October 2017 11:37:48

Some very unsettled runs round form mid to late week onwards and increasingly cool if not chilly in the wind and rain.

A shock to the system coming up.

Originally Posted by: Charmhills 

Proper autumn 

Gusty
15 October 2017 11:39:37

 

Yes, I have been focussing on Ophelia too much and relieved that my garage roof is safe, but perhaps not for too long!

Some very worrying  GEFS members showing up. I assume Thursday's storm will be named Brian, but this one I don't know

 

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Indeed. A can't help but Gaze at Brian. 


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nsrobins
15 October 2017 11:45:32

 

Indeed. A can't help but Gaze at Brian. 

Originally Posted by: Gusty 

😂

The new craze - the ‘Brian Gaze’?


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Brian Gaze
15 October 2017 11:47:59

 

Indeed. A can't help but Gaze at Brian. 

Originally Posted by: Gusty 

On the subject of trolling there will be less and less of that on the weather forum. That's a promise! We no longer accept new members so once an account is deleted the member is gone. 


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Hungry Tiger
15 October 2017 11:50:18

A few classic "bombs" in there

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


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Saint Snow
15 October 2017 11:58:37

 

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 

 

And look at the positioning of that high to our north!


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Solar Cycles
15 October 2017 12:11:04

 

Yes the weather is getting interesting again!

FWW, whilst I don't always buy into Q's assessments this is a very unusual situation regarding Ophelia irrespective of how it impacts the UK and Ireland. 

Should keep the AGW proponents happy! 

Originally Posted by: Sevendust 

😂😂😂😂😂

 

Regarding Q assessments I tend to agree with most of what he says, very knowledgeable and goes into great in-depth detail in his analysis. I don’t agree with him on this  being a potential hurricane but I would say he’s given this some food for thought though.🙂

Solar Cycles
15 October 2017 12:12:04

 

 

And look at the positioning of that high to our north!

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

Go on I’ll say it then......... If only it was...... 😂😂😂

Gusty
15 October 2017 12:22:16

On the subject of trolling there will be less and less of that on the weather forum. That's a promise! We no longer accept new members so once an account is deleted the member is gone. 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


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