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Ally Pally Snowman
06 June 2026 06:34:23
It has been fascinating to watch all the models struggling with the "pattern change" . All have been rubbish tbh even AIFS. 

GFS has been so bad to be almost completely useless.  

ECM also v poor. It has loads of HLB this morning which is v unlikely, an issue its had for years.


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06 June 2026 06:59:25
FAX - An unsettled and westerly week sums it up. A very active LP 989mb for the south today, merging with another 990mb Western Isles tomorrow, and another in the NW 99mb Tue 9th; finally a general collapse of pressure in the NE Atlantic including Britain on Wed. 

GFS Op 0z -Improving slowly from later in the week. The LP above gets slowly pushed aside as pressure rises from the SW, 1030mb SW Ireland Sun 14th. This hovers west of Ireland for the following week with light northerlies for Britain, looking cool but dry.

ECM - like GFS but keeps LP over Shetland a day or two longer before a more rapid rise in pressure; by Sun 14th matching GFS again.

AIFS -  not loading from Wetterzentrale for this week - London, rain still there early Sat 13th then dry; maxima 20C to Thu 18th with a warmer day Sun 14th before a general rise after Thu 18th to 27C. Edinburgh, similar pattern but maxima closer to 15C and not so much of a rise at the end.

GEFS - from norm now, mean temp drops to about 5C below norm Tue 9th, then a steady rise to 3 or 4 C above norm by Sun 21st with quite good ens support. Definite rain at intervals to Sat 13th, mostly but not entirely dry after that in the S but in the north returning around Tue 19th and sometimes heavy there.


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Jiries
06 June 2026 08:33:43

It has been fascinating to watch all the models struggling with the "pattern change" . All have been rubbish tbh even AIFS. 

GFS has been so bad to be almost completely useless.  

ECM also v poor. It has loads of HLB this morning which is v unlikely, an issue its had for years.

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

I wont be missed if they are all scrapped, they are all useless, rubbish and far worse than before, i used to view charts in the 00's but no more now, i just see the ensembles but also going down the drain as i see now lot of green lines scribbing all over it.  I just rely from the  window as I used to do in the 1980's and 90's every day to see how it goes outside, the apps also are useless too showing full on overcast skies, rain and such cold tempetatures when in reality was decent sunny spells, drier and average temperatures.  I still expecting to see settled weather very soon next week as orginally predicted before.

Charmhills
06 June 2026 08:34:38
To my eye its fairly cool and unsettled for the foreseeable.☂️

Something more settled seems to be way off right now or stuck in fi.

Still, going abroad soon, so I shall feel some heat and no doubt some storms too, hopefully.😎🌩️


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Ally Pally Snowman
06 June 2026 08:43:47

I wont be missed if they are all scrapped, they are all useless, rubbish and far worse than before, i used to view charts in the 00's but no more now, i just see the ensembles but also going down the drain as i see now lot of green lines scribbing all over it.  I just rely from the  window as I used to do in the 1980's and 90's every day to see how it goes outside, the apps also are useless too showing full on overcast skies, rain and such cold tempetatures when in reality was decent sunny spells, drier and average temperatures.  I still expecting to see settled weather very soon next week as orginally predicted before.

Originally Posted by: Jiries 

Looking at the AIFS ensembles looks like a 60/40 chance in favour of some heat returning in about a weeks time. For the southern third of the UK at least.  


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The Beast from the East
06 June 2026 09:45:45
looks like mid june before the heat returns, for the south at least.  

What a terrible Epsom Derby Day! 


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Ally Pally Snowman
06 June 2026 12:15:20
30c next Sunday??? AIFS 6z seems to think so. A brief heat pump before another low rolls in. Not a terrible run though for the South from the best model around 

https://wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=20&model=aifs&var=2&run=6&time=204&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=6#mapref 


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Hippydave
06 June 2026 15:45:27
Can't say I've been paying particularly close attention to the output, as it's summer and it rarely shows the kind of weather I'd prefer to see but my impression is the current unsettled spell will start to fade for the south in around 7-10 days. Post that some kind of build of HP more strongly looks a reasonable bet. 

Climatologically the current unsettled stuff is fairly normal for early June and given recent years and the depressingly turbo charged warming trend, I'd be surprised if we don't see at least a few couple of bursts of +30c heat before month end. 


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Rob K
06 June 2026 16:35:13
The GEFS seem to have collapsed the scatter significantly between the 0Z and 6Z runs. Firming up on a rather uninspiring week to come but gradually warming up and high pressure in charge for the south next weekend. After that it’s anyone’s guess. 
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Ally Pally Snowman
06 June 2026 17:10:54
Superb GEM 12z heatwave from 168h
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Ally Pally Snowman
06 June 2026 17:17:25

The GEFS seem to have collapsed the scatter significantly between the 0Z and 6Z runs. Firming up on a rather uninspiring week to come but gradually warming up and high pressure in charge for the south next weekend. After that it’s anyone’s guess. 

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Genuinely don't bother with GFS anymore.  So poor.


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Retron
06 June 2026 17:30:56

Superb GEM 12z heatwave from 168h

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

Much prefer the GFS, which is much more superb... 19C here at 168, a northerly breeze, full sunshine and a 6C dewpoint. That would feel very pleasant, I would assert, and even heat lovers would enjoy the warmth of the sun out of the wind! 😁


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doctormog
06 June 2026 17:43:20
From a summer weather perspective the 12z GFS looks awful for many with cool and unsettled conditions..
Ally Pally Snowman
06 June 2026 18:01:35

Much prefer the GFS, which is much more superb... 19C here at 168, a northerly breeze, full sunshine and a 6C dewpoint. That would feel very pleasant, I would assert, and even heat lovers would enjoy the warmth of the sun out of the wind! 😁

Originally Posted by: Retron 

Well luckily for me the GFS Op is about as useful as a chocolate teapot. 

AIFS 12z also great for summer fans settling things down as early as 120h for the South. Hot by next weekend. 


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Chunky Pea
06 June 2026 18:17:51

Well luckily for me the GFS Op is about as useful as a chocolate teapot. 

AIFS 12z also great for summer fans settling things down as early as 120h for the South. Hot by next weekend. 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

One of the GFS runs from yesterday (18z I think) had a lovely high to the north of Scotland, bringing in warm, blue sky conditions coupled with low dew points. Something that you would reasonable expect at this time of year. Hopefully, it picked up on something stirring in the atmosphere. 


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Ally Pally Snowman
06 June 2026 18:26:40

One of the GFS runs from yesterday (18z I think) had a lovely high to the north of Scotland, bringing in warm, blue sky conditions coupled with low dew points. Something that you would reasonable expect at this time of year. Hopefully, it picked up on something stirring in the atmosphere. 

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 

The problem with GFS is that it's so poor atm, the chances of it picking up something before other models is virtually zero.


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Ally Pally Snowman
06 June 2026 18:57:50
ECM 12z also brings in the heat at 144h. Nice set of 12s for heat fans.
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Saint Snow
06 June 2026 19:21:30

One of the GFS runs from yesterday (18z I think) had a lovely high to the north of Scotland, bringing in warm, blue sky conditions coupled with low dew points. Something that you would reasonable expect at this time of year. Hopefully, it picked up on something stirring in the atmosphere. 

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 

Much prefer a high to our north (with easterly flow) than to our south 


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MRazzell
06 June 2026 21:49:06
Can the ECM ensembles be viewed in chart form on this site? Similar to the GEFS on the homepage. 
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Heavy Weather 2013
07 June 2026 05:59:48
After the my break from model watching during this cool spell, I had a look this morning and it looks great from end of next week onwards on GFS at least. Can I see a cheeky 37C in this run?!

8 days of > 30C as well. 


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Ally Pally Snowman
07 June 2026 06:29:04

After the my break from model watching during this cool spell, I had a look this morning and it looks great from end of next week onwards on GFS at least. Can I see a cheeky 37C in this run?!

8 days of > 30C as well. 

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Sadly the GFS Op output recently can best be described as schizophrenic.  AIFS not as good this morning annoyingly but even AIFS has struggled with this pattern change after the unsettled spell.

GEM and ECM both look good this morning aswell.  

But the envelope of scenarios is still anything from record breaking heat to meh .

 


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Ally Pally Snowman
07 June 2026 06:38:05
Big spread remains on the AIFS 850s still

https://wetterzentrale.de/en/show_diagrams.php?geoid=49069&model=aifs&var=2&run=0&lid=ENS&bw=1 


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Brian Gaze
07 June 2026 07:55:29
We're going from the "quite interesting" to "very interesting" phase IMO.

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Retron
07 June 2026 08:03:53

We're going from the "quite interesting" to "very interesting" phase IMO.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Ugh, frankly, but as we know the Euro monsoon usually only lasts 10 days to a fortnight and it looks like no exception this time.

Looking at the jet it remains far south of normal over the Atlantic and some models - like the ECM and MOGREPS - show a "heat pump" like kink as we get to the 10 day mark, which is where that pluminess comes from. Needless to say I'm hoping it's wrong but sod's law says it'll be spot on and we'll be in for another very uncomfortable spell.


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Charmhills
07 June 2026 08:10:05
A warming trend is still there, quite dry too by the end of the week, but how warm and for how long??
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