Jiries
22 December 2022 08:46:06
Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Great news. That’s the shortest day over with. Next stop, Spring. Always races around once the Xmas period is over. 



Cant wait for that and the sooner to get out from snow less winter the better.  With milder charts for weeks will allow me to save heating costs so by Jan onward to be on credits. 
richardabdn
24 December 2022 10:35:00
What a surprise the cold hasn't returned. Just unremitting bleak ugly unpleasant un-festive dirge all week that shows no sign of relenting. Yet another year of unbelievably dire Christmas/New Year weather in which we'll struggle to get a frost 🤬

The meteorological equivalent of getting just a 💩in your Christmas stocking every stinking year. Nothing to look forward to or enjoy whatsoever.

It's just utter poison these conditions. Detestable without any redeeming qualities. Conditions so poor that darkness is more acceptable than daylight. Horrendous with the mildness concentrated at night as always. Not dropped below 2C all week and outside the cold spell it hasn't dropped below freezing all month. Disgraceful. There isn't another climate at 57 degrees north that struggles to drop below freezing around the shortest days of the year ☹

Feels horrible cold and rotten during the day with temperatures barely higher than during the night. It's 5.2C now having dropped lower than 4.2C overnight. Absolutely dire temperatures. I can think of nothing worse. Bedroom temperature is currently 14.1C same as during the cold spell and there has been no change all week.

The sooner this rank, poxy horrendous good-for-nothing season is over the better. January will just be another boring write-off. That's all it ever is nowadays. Relentless bone dry westerlies from start to finish which is why it is now ludicrously the driest month of the year having once ranked amongst the wettest.
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Jiries
26 December 2022 13:13:30
Today sun is the strongest you can get this time of the year with 4 mins extra daylight give now indoor temps to 19C the highest so far without heating on this morning despite slight frost outside.  Soon the sun will be notable stronger as daylight slowly drawing out so thank god we heading this way for warmer early Spring hopefully after 2 years of very cold Spring.
The Beast from the East
26 December 2022 13:26:15
Originally Posted by: Jiries 

Today sun is the strongest you can get this time of the year with 4 mins extra daylight give now indoor temps to 19C the highest so far without heating on this morning despite slight frost outside.  Soon the sun will be notable stronger as daylight slowly drawing out so thank god we heading this way for warmer early Spring hopefully after 2 years of very cold Spring.


Its funny, the older I get the more I yearn for heat and spring, but as a child and younger man I loved the cold and hated warm weather. 
at the moment, if we cant have another cold spell this season, then I wish for spring to come right now, and we can easily reach 15 even with the sun at its weakest with a long fetch Bartlett
 
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Bolty
26 December 2022 13:38:11
Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Its funny, the older I get the more I yearn for heat and spring, but as a child and younger man I loved the cold and hated warm weather. 
at the moment, if we cant have another cold spell this season, then I wish for spring to come right now, and we can easily reach 15 even with the sun at its weakest with a long fetch Bartlett
 



Agree. I've found with every passing year that my interest in winter just gets less and less. A notable wintry spell still takes my interest at the time, like what we had earlier this month (which now seems a very distant memory), but I really just can't get myself excited for cold, dark evenings and grey, miserable days after a warm spring and summer. Now that Christmas is nearly over, my mind is set firmly on spring and the first proper mild spell of the year.
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Jiries
26 December 2022 14:18:39
Originally Posted by: Bolty 

Agree. I've found with every passing year that my interest in winter just gets less and less. A notable wintry spell still takes my interest at the time, like what we had earlier this month (which now seems a very distant memory), but I really just can't get myself excited for cold, dark evenings and grey, miserable days after a warm spring and summer. Now that Christmas is nearly over, my mind is set firmly on spring and the first proper mild spell of the year.



As turning to 50C next month I have very few memories of best snowy spels which all occur in the late 70's and 80's up to 1991, then brief 2009 for nearly 1 ft of snow depth.  I watch some hailstorm videos on Youtbue. that I used to see alot in the past as well.  Now to start filling up my winter memory of snow is going to Lapland yearly and rent a holiday home for a week which my wife's colleague who is Hungarian going there next month and gave me the link to look at it.  Said is £61 per night so a lot cheaper than the hotels which is very expensive.  We talk about starting in 2024 and go yearly to places that have snow to fill up our memories and experiences just like a person from N America who see a lot in their lives.

Will order a mini weather station and ourdoor sensor to take with me to see low temps and experience it.  Will give a V sign to this country winter climate that never offer snow and real cold temps.   I always have fresh memory of Toronto's winter storm on 22nd Jan 2005 and -25.1C on my wired sensor so need more to experience it again.
Bolty
27 December 2022 13:24:01
Worst kind of day today. Wet, windy and temperatures in the low single figures. Looks pretty much the same for the rest of this year.
Scott
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Heavy Weather 2013
27 December 2022 13:27:14
After a Christmas break I thought I’d turn to the models again, pretty dreadful at the moment. The recent cold spell feels like a distant memory.

Why is it so hard to get decent January cold in this useless country.
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Jiries
27 December 2022 14:00:17
Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

After a Christmas break I thought I’d turn to the models again, pretty dreadful at the moment. The recent cold spell feels like a distant memory.

Why is it so hard to get decent January cold in this useless country.



Take a look at Toronto going to be like here horrible mild and wet but normally we should get cold and snowy when other side of the pond is mild but alas no more we both get the same set-up nowdays.  Plus the deep cold and snow recently there is really complete waste of time and no enjoyment kowing that it going to wipe away quickly for those cold rampers there.  If I was there I would not be pleased to know that the snow will be gone next minute.
I stick to Lapland than Canada or USA to see what remaining snow and real cold that won't wipe out instantly.
Jiries
27 December 2022 16:40:45
Originally Posted by: NMA 

I’m not sure that ‘enjoyment’ is uppermost on the minds of those people trapped in their cars or having their business looted. Hell might be a better term.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64099642 
I would be looking forward to a thaw.

 



Didn't they recieved any warnings and all models was pointing at the severeity of the cold snap and snow storms forecasts?   Seem they ignored and continue as normal driving and thinking is only standard snow storms they get often.  With all the technology gathered from the weather models and weather network on TV and phones to warn others not to go out at all and give a lockdown type for a day or 2 to stay at home and close businesses.  They done well on hurricane forecasts in Florida everyone stay at home and all businesses boarded up.
Heavy Weather 2013
27 December 2022 18:50:50
Originally Posted by: Jiries 

Didn't they recieved any warnings and all models was pointing at the severeity of the cold snap and snow storms forecasts?   Seem they ignored and continue as normal driving and thinking is only standard snow storms they get often.  With all the technology gathered from the weather models and weather network on TV and phones to warn others not to go out at all and give a lockdown type for a day or 2 to stay at home and close businesses.  They done well on hurricane forecasts in Florida everyone stay at home and all businesses boarded up.



Agreed. Even here in the UK it was well published, I would’ve have stocked up and hunkered down and not travelled. People do not give the respect to the weather it deserves sometimes 
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27 December 2022 19:12:05
It would be very interesting to ask those people who have had to be dug out of their vehicles what they were thinking when they set off on their journeys. Of course, for those that are now dead it is impossible to know.
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johncs2016
27 December 2022 20:05:32
Upon looking through my data, I was astonished to discover that not a single air frost has been recorded at any of my local stations back in Edinburgh during my time here in the Scottish Borders,  despite the fact that a technical white Christmas was recorded at Edinburgh Gogarbank as officially confirmed by the Met Office.

Last night, we got a wee bit of snow in Hawick and it had looked as though we were going to get an air frost as the temperature dropped to 0°C by as early as 9pm. After that though, the temperature jumped back up to +1°C and refused to drop afterwards.

I have had quite a number of frost-free trips down here in recent years at this time of the year and this now looks like being yet another one to add to that list given the latest forecasts.

Yet despite the recent milder weather, this has actually technically been a cold winter overall so far so the fact that we still can't get a single air frost when I'm down here even with that makes me wonder what on Earth it is actually going to take for an air frost to be recorded whilst I am down here.😡
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dagspot
27 December 2022 20:07:23
Suspect, had it not been Christmas, and desperation to get somewhere, they might have heeded more advice.  Also the reported local sudden turn and deterioration would have caught people out who were aware but thought they could beat it. You would hope they were better prepared than UK punters who get caught in an inch of snow wearing shorts and flipflops and no spade. 
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sunny coast
28 December 2022 21:41:51
A Outlook which could hardly be worse  mild and wet or mild and drier and brighter at times in the south and a bit chillier in the North . After a promising cold spell in Dec it did look for a whie that this year might be different but no the same old dross into Jan that we have had for a decade now . The last cold Jan was 2013 since then it has been virtually  a write off in terms of wintry weather.  A sign of the times we are now in 
MRazzell
30 December 2022 10:11:05
Absolutely foul today here in E-Sussex. About to depart for Worcester for a couple of days and the conditions couldnt be any worse for driving there AND back! ...Compounding the dread is the fact that these conditions couldnt be any worse for an EV driver (cool, wind and rain)...
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richardabdn
30 December 2022 10:15:42
The worst day yet. Dark, wet dismal depressing garbage. Another rancid write-off day in yet another rancid write-off Festive period 🤢

A sick joke how we can only seem to get proper wintry weather in late autumn/early winter or late winter/early spring. The core period of winter is just a disaster year after year and the festive period has been diabolical practically every single year since 2011 with the repulsiveness intensifying since 2019.

This years has to be a good candidate for the worst yet. Ridiculously dull, ridiculously wet with horrible temperatures. Monday the only acceptable day. Apart from that it's just relentless cloud and rain with temperatures of 3-7C. VILE  💩

This was a fairly dry year up to August now it's the wettest I've recorded. The first time the annual total has surpassed 900mm. All down to a sickening final third that will rank as one of the wettest ever periods that this city has had the misfortune to be subjected to 🤮
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30 December 2022 10:18:58
Tomorrow, and tomorrow and tomorrow
Creep in these dreaded fronts from day to day
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johncs2016
04 January 2023 02:53:30
We're only a few days into a brand new year and we can already see that it hasn't taken long for this so-called "winter" to really go down the toilet pan.😡

As at 2am this morning, the temperature here in Edinburgh was a ridiculously mild 12°C here in Edinburgh with winds gusting up to 46.0 mph from the WSW at Edinburgh Gogarbank.😡

Yet, it's the middle of the night in what is supposed to be the winter equivalent of high summer and this should be our coldest month of the entire year on average.😡

Even in high summer itself, I have witnessed far cooler nights than this!!😡

Absolutely pathetic!!😡
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CreweCold
04 January 2023 05:01:25
Originally Posted by: johncs2016 

We're only a few days into a brand new year and we can already see that it hasn't taken long for this so-called "winter" to really go down the toilet pan.😡

As at 2am this morning, the temperature here in Edinburgh was a ridiculously mild 12°C here in Edinburgh with winds gusting up to 46.0 mph from the WSW at Edinburgh Gogarbank.😡

Yet, it's the middle of the night in what is supposed to be the winter equivalent of high summer and this should be our coldest month of the entire year on average.😡

Even in high summer itself, I have witnessed far cooler nights than this!!😡

Absolutely pathetic!!😡



Yep an absolutely rancid winter this is turning out to be...not seen a snowfall here yet and it looks like the next two weeks won't feature one either. Dreadful.

What's more concerning are these records being smashed across Europe- they are quite exceptional really. It doesn't fill me with joy as it means that unless there's a dramatic change, this coming summer has the potential to be deadly in terms of heat across Europe, should synoptics allow.

We seem to have seen a step change in terms of warming across Europe over the past few years. How long until the Mediterranean becomes scorched and virtually uninhabitable due to excessive summer temperatures? Not sure many people will want to endure 40-50C max temperatures most summers.

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