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18 November 2022 07:45:29

Originally Posted by: GezM 


 


How is the water table looking in the south east now? Presumably it must be replenishing quite rapidly?



Chilgrove in the Downs N of Chichester has increased from a minimum of 34m asl on 31 Oct to 39m yesterday. That's quite rapid but the long term average for mid-November is 50m and rises at about half this year's rate, so still a long way to go to catch up. Local winterbournes have not yet started running. The rise is much slower in e.g. north Hampshire, probably less than half the south Sussex rate


A variety of borehole levels in Hampshire and Sussex can be viewed at


https://sites.google.com/view/groundwatergraphs/home/groundwater-data 


Select county, the location, then scroll down for data since May - you can then choose a narrower date range


 


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Chichester 12m asl
johncs2016
18 November 2022 09:42:57

The latest rainfall data for Edinburgh Gogarbank and the botanic gardens in Edinburgh are as follows:


Data For Recent Days


24 Hour Total Up To 9am GMT (09:00 UTC) this morning: 29.0 mm at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 31.2 mm at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh


It hasn't stopped raining here since yesterday morning, and it is still raining here as I write.


Monthly Data


Total for this month so far: 75.0 mm (101.8% of 1991-2020 November average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 69.8 mm (107.0% of 1991-2020 November average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of rain days during this month so far: 9 (70.0% of 1991-2020 November average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 7 (59.8% of 1991-2020 November average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of dry days during this month so far: 4 at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 5 at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh


More rain has now fallen during this month at Edinburgh Gogarbank than the 1991-2020 November average for that particular station and so this month will now go down as being wetter than average there in terms of the actual rainfall amounts, regardless of what happens between now and the end of this month.


In addition to that, more rain has also now fallen during this month at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh than the 1991-2020 November average for that particular station and so this month will now go down as being wetter than average there in terms of the actual rainfall amounts, regardless of what happens between now and the end of this month.


Furthermore, just another 4 or more official rain days now need to be recorded at Edinburgh Gogarbank between now and the end of this month in order for this month to go down as being wetter than average there in terms of the number of rain days.


Finally, just another 5 or more official rain days now need to be recorded at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh between now and the end of this month in order for this month to go down as being wetter than average there in terms of the number of rain days.


Seasonal Data


Total for this Autumn so far: 240.0 mm (113.5% of 1991-2020 Autumn average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 227.0 mm (115.9% of 1991-2020 Autumn average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of rain days during this Autumn so far: 35 (96.2% of 1991-2020 Autumn average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 34 (101.9% of 1991-2020 Autumn average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of dry days during this Autumn so far: 28 at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 27 at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh


More rain has now fallen during this Autumn at Edinburgh Gogarbank than the 1991-2020 Autumn average for that particular station and so this Autumn will now go down as being wetter than average there in terms of the actual rainfall amounts, regardless of what happens between now and the end of this Autumn.


In addition to that, more rain has now also fallen during this Autumn at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh than the 1991-2020 Autumn average for that particular station and so this Autumn will now go down as being wetter than average there in terms of the actual rainfall amounts, regardless of what happens between now and the end of this Autumn.


Furthermore, this Autumn will go down as being wetter than average at Edinburgh Gogarbank in terms of the number of official rain days if any more rain days are recorded there between now and the end of this Autumn.


Finally, more official rain days have now been recorded at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh during this autumn than the 1991-2020 autumn average and so, this autumn will now go down as being wetter than average there in terms of the number of rain days regardless of what happens between now and the end of this month.


Annual Data


Total for this year so far: 598.4 mm (76.3% of 1991-2020 annual average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 533.4 mm (73.3% of 1991-2020 annual average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of rain days during this year so far: 115 (83.7% of 1991-2020 annual average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 105 (81.9% of 1991-2020 annual average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of dry days during this year so far: 154 at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 152 at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh


Note


This data has been obtained from the Scottish Environmental Protection Agency (SEPA) by using a beta version of their latest upcoming API system.


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Crepuscular Ray
18 November 2022 09:54:18
Very thorough as usual John. I'm coming back to a drier area despite those figures. We are getting 300-400mm per month here!
Jerry
Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill
johncs2016
18 November 2022 10:48:54

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

Very thorough as usual John. I'm coming back to a drier area despite those figures. We are getting 300-400mm per month here!


Bear in mind though, that it isn't as wet on average here in the north of Edinburgh where I am as it is in the south of Edinburgh where you will be returning to, and which is further inland and higher up.


Just to show a very good example of that, the 24 hour total for Comiston (which is slightly further out than Morningside) according to SEPA for the period ending at 9am this morning was 46.8 mm which is impressive even for there (though obviously nowhere near to those Lake District standards which you have mentioned). That takes the monthly total for there to 97.0 mm as at 9am this morning.


In addition to that, it is still raining as I write and so, it looks as though at least one part of Edinburgh will be ending up with more than 100 mm of rain during this month with that total probably being likely to be reached at Comiston at some point in time during this morning.


 


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johncs2016
18 November 2022 10:59:13

Here is a report which shows just what the situation is like at the moment here in the north of Edinburgh in my own local area.


EDIT


The Met Office have now extended our yellow warning for rain, right up until midnight (it was previously due to expire at 6pm this evening).


This shows that the rain isn't going anywhere all that soon and as we have at least one flooded road nearby, I am perhaps now thinking that our current yellow warning possibly wasn't enough to that and that we perhaps, should have been included in the amber warning which is in force further north.


 


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Crepuscular Ray
18 November 2022 15:53:24
I see Swanston in the south of Edinburgh reported over 52mm in the 24hrs up to 0900 today.
That takes the monthly total to over 103mm

I've seen footage of the Edinburgh flooding and much worse flooding further north
Jerry
Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill
johncs2016
18 November 2022 15:59:15

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

I see Swanston in the south of Edinburgh reported over 52mm in the 24hrs up to 0900 today.
That takes the monthly total to over 103mm

I've seen footage of the Edinburgh flooding and much worse flooding further north


I was looking for that Swanston data this morning but at that time, they had updated their page to include all of their 24 hour data up to 9am this morning and not the rainfall data so I can only assume that they must have added that later on.


The good news as well is that the rain has now finally cleared away to my north after falling non-stop for what must have been approaching 36 hours, so we should be close to seeing our final totals for that now without having to worry about that going up again in the meantime.


 


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johncs2016
18 November 2022 18:53:01

Now that the dust has finally settled on this incredible couple of days in terms of our weather, I can now give the latest rainfall data for Edinburgh Gogarbank and the botanic gardens in Edinburgh after these events which are as follows:


Data For Recent Days


24 Hour Total Up To 9am GMT (09:00 UTC) this morning: 32.4 mm at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 36.8 mm at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Total since 9am GMT (09:00 UTC) this morning: 10.0 mm at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 14.8 mm at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh (as at 6pm GMT (18:00 UTC) this evening on Friday 18 November 2022


That makes yesterday, our wettest day of this year so far by quite a considerable amount and this has caused quite a big impact as I have discussed both on this thread and elsewhere on this forum.


Monthly Data


Total for this month so far: 88.4 mm (120.0% of 1991-2020 November average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 90.2 mm (138.2% of 1991-2020 November average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of rain days during this month so far: 10 (77.8% of 1991-2020 November average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 8 (68.4% of 1991-2020 November average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of dry days during this month so far: 4 at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 5 at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh


This means that another 3 or more official rain days now need to be recorded at Edinburgh Gogarbank between now and the end of this month in order for this month to go down as being wetter than average there in terms of the number of rain days.


In addition to that, this also means that another 4 or more official rain days now need to be recorded at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh between now and the end of this month in order for this month to go down as being wetter than average there in terms of the number of rain days.


Just a couple of days ago, this month wasn't actually looking all that wet here overall, but all of that has now changed and it now looks as though this is going to go down as an incredibly wet month overall.


Seasonal Data


Total for this Autumn so far: 253.4 mm (119.8% of 1991-2020 Autumn average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 247.4 mm (126.3% of 1991-2020 Autumn average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of rain days during this Autumn so far: 36 (98.9% of 1991-2020 Autumn average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 35 (104.9% of 1991-2020 Autumn average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of dry days during this Autumn so far: 28 at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 27 at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh


This autumn will go down as being wetter than average overall at Edinburgh Gogarbank in terms of the number of official rain days if any more rain days are recorded there between now and the end of this month.


Annual Data


Total for this year so far: 611.8 mm (78.0% of 1991-2020 annual average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 553.8 mm (76.1% of 1991-2020 annual average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of rain days during this year so far: 116 (84.4% of 1991-2020 annual average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 106 (82.7% of 1991-2020 annual average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of dry days during this year so far: 154 at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 152 at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh


Note


This data has been obtained from the Scottish Environmental Protection Agency (SEPA) by using a beta version of their latest upcoming API system.


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Bolty
18 November 2022 19:48:52
A very wet month so far here. 110.7mm to 19:00 on the 18th.
Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
My weather station 
sunny coast
18 November 2022 22:37:11

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


 


July 2011 or 12 I think, but one afternoon here saw a crazy amount of rain as a streamer of very localised thunderstorms kicked off. Comfortably over 150mm rain in less than 6 hours (very localised) makes anything that fell this month seem trivial. 


  prob 2012  a dire summer 

richardabdn
19 November 2022 08:26:35

Now the wettest November, wettest Autumn and wettest season I have recorded in the 17 years I have had my weather station 


An utterly horrendous 141.6mm, beating the previous highest November total of 141.4mm in 2019 


This is the ludicrous 5th month in just four years to breach 140mm compared to only four months in the previous 13 years 


90mm since Tuesday and it still won't relent. The high ground site at Charr near Cairn O'Mount, SW of Stonehaven has recorded 220mm over the same period. Absolute hell for NE Scotland yet again 


Running 30-day rain total here is 198.4mm - the highest since the gut-wrenchingly awful first half of winter 2015/16 


I previously stated that it was unprecedented in over 160 years of records to have four consecutive Autumns with a 130mm+ month. Now we have had four with a 140mm+ month 


Autumnal total now stands at 376.6mm, smashing my previous record for any season of 348.8mm in Autumn 2009. It's the thrid season in just two years to breach 300mm along with Winter 20/21 and Autumn 2021. Prior to that there were only three in 15 years (Autumn 2009, Summer 2012 and Winter 2013/14) 


 


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2023 - The Year that's Constantly Worse than a Bad November
sunny coast
20 November 2022 09:04:58
230mm mtd after early morning rain band
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20 November 2022 09:09:29

About 69mm here now (-26.3mm) I fancy we won't see a great deal more and it will be another below average (though still quite wet) month.
Year is on 404mm (-334mm)


ARTzeman
20 November 2022 09:56:42

4.09 mm Early today.


105.39 mm This Month.






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johncs2016
20 November 2022 10:26:11

The latest rainfall data for Edinburgh Gogarbank and the botanic gardens in Edinburgh are as follows:


Data For Recent Days


24 Hour Total Up To 9am GMT (09:00 UTC) this morning: 1.4 mm at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 0.8 mm at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh


Following recent events, normal service has been resumed in terms of our usual struggle to get any significant rainfall totals for here in Edinburgh, although I have no doubt that these totals will be higher elsewhere as per usual, and I have already seen that on this thread from others during this morning.


Monthly Data


Total for this month so far: 89.8 mm (121.9% of 1991-2020 November average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 90.8 mm (139.2% of 1991-2020 November average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of rain days during this month so far: 11 (85.5% of 1991-2020 November average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 8 (68.4% of 1991-2020 November average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of dry days during this month so far: 4 at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 5 at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh


This means that another 2 or more official rain days now need to be recorded at Edinburgh Gogarbank between now and the end of this month in order for this month to go down as being wetter than average there in terms of the number of rain days.


However, another 4 or more official rain days still needs to be recorded at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh between now and the end of this month in order for this month to go down as being wetter than average there in terms of the number of rain days.


Seasonal Data


Total for this autumn so far: 254.8 mm (120.5% of 1991-2020 autumn average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 249.4 mm (127.3% of 1991-2020 autumn average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of rain days during this autumn so far: 37 (101.6% of 1991-2020 autumn average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 35 (104.9% of 1991-2020 autumn average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of dry days during this autumn so far: 28 at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 27 at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh


This means that more official rain days have now been recorded at Edinburgh Gogarbank during this autumn than the 1991-2020 autumn average and so, this autumn will go down as being wetter than average there in terms of the number of rain days regardless of what happens between now and the end of this autumn.


Annual Data


Total for this year so far: 613.2 mm (78.2% of 1991-2020 annual average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 555.8 mm (76.4% of 1991-2020 annual average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of rain days during this year so far: 117 (85.1% of 1991-2020 annual average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 106 (82.7% of 1991-2020 annual average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of dry days during this year so far: 154 at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 152 at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh


Note


This data has been obtained from the Scottish Environmental Protection Agency (SEPA) by using a beta version of their latest upcoming API system.


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
richardabdn
20 November 2022 10:33:15

Another day of poison bringing the total up to 158.8mm and still it continues unabated, stuck under a rain band which cleared everywhere else but inexplicably parks itself right over the coastal areas as if we haven't suffered enough 


15th day in this monumentally vile season to record over 10mm. More days than I have recorded in any other season and more than there were in the entirety of 2006, 2013, 2016 and 2018 


107mm in the past week so closing in on my record 7-day total of 109mm for 21st-27th October 2009 


 


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2023 - The Year that's Constantly Worse than a Bad November
johncs2016
20 November 2022 11:53:22

The latest rainfall data for Edinburgh Gogarbank and the botanic gardens in Edinburgh are as follows:


Data For Recent Days


24 Hour Total Up To 9am GMT (09:00 UTC) this morning: 1.4 mm at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 0.8 mm at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Total since 9am GMT (09:00 UTC) this morning: 1.4 mm at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 1.2 mm at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh (as at 11am GMT (11:00 UTC) this morning on Sunday 20 November 2022


There has been some further showers during this morning which have already cleared away, but these have ended up having a bigger impact on the overall totals than last night's main rain band as shown below.


Monthly Data


Total for this month so far: 91.2 mm (123.8% of 1991-2020 November average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 92.2 mm (141.3% of 1991-2020 November average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of rain days during this month so far: 12 (93.3% of 1991-2020 November average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 9 (76.9% of 1991-2020 November average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of dry days during this month so far: 4 at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 5 at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh


This month will go down as being wetter than average at Edinburgh Gogarbank in terms of the number of official rain days if any more rain days are recorded there between now and the end of this month.


In addition to that, just another 3 or more official rain days now need to be recorded at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh between now and the end of this month in order for this month to go down as being wetter than average there in terms of the number of rain days.


Seasonal Data


Total for this autumn so far: 256.2 mm (121.1% of 1991-2020 autumn average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 249.4 mm (127.3% of 1991-2020 autumn average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of rain days during this autumn so far: 38 (105.5% of 1991-2020 autumn average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 36 (108.5% of 1991-2020 autumn average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of dry days during this autumn so far: 28 at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 27 at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh


Annual Data


Total for this year so far: 614.6 mm (78.4% of 1991-2020 annual average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 555.8 mm (76.4% of 1991-2020 annual average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of rain days during this year so far: 118 (85.9% of 1991-2020 annual average) at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 107 (83.6% of 1991-2020 annual average) at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh
Number of dry days during this year so far: 154 at Edinburgh Gogarbank along with 152 at the botanic gardens in Edinburgh


Note


This data has been obtained from the Scottish Environmental Protection Agency (SEPA) by using a beta version of their latest upcoming API system.


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
speckledjim
20 November 2022 18:31:37
56.0mm
Thorner, West Yorkshire


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20 November 2022 21:41:24
Originally Posted by: GezM 17 Nov

 How is the water table looking in the south east now? Presumably it must be replenishing quite rapidly?


 


It's really shot up at Chilgrove this last week (figures are metres asl) - in fact from record minimum to normal just over a fortnight!


Nov 1st 34.23 (record minimum on this date is 33.97)
Nov 7th 35.09
Nov 11th 37.20
Nov 15th 37.82
Nov 16th 41.64
Nov 18th 47.81 (long term average on this date is 49)


 


 




 


 


 


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speckledjim
21 November 2022 10:02:24
58.2mm
Thorner, West Yorkshire


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