But that's London Brian. Do you think we in NW Britain will finally get some sunny, dry weather?

 NW Britain is not really known for its hot dry climate, earlier in the year it was pretty dry in parts of the Lakes according to reports from Farmers. Although all that means is it has gone a whole day without drizzling.

Summers over?

 Another 10 days or so for the South i think.

 

 Another 10 days or so for the South i think.

Perhaps 'normal summer weather to be resumed' in 10 days? Doesn't look (yet) as if we're on for a complete flip to cool and wet. 

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ECM30 suggests anomalous warmth during the second half of August as does GEFS35.

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This is one of the most telling charts

 

That would take us to 45 days with no measurable rainfall in parts of Hampshire (none since 30 June) and even June was hardly wet.

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The GFS this morning resembles that of August 1981, bringing a good deal of fine conditions, warm rather than hot, but with a small potential for thundery outbreaks (not yet detected).

ECM ENS 00z looks like an "upgrade" for hot weather fans to me.

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That Op run keeps on doing that. Going for a mini spike followed by a sharp drop - a cooler version of what happened on July 19th. For the period Aug 13-19 something has got to give because it is clearly out of kilter with most other perturbations. I'm expecting the mean to start dipping over that period in future runs. 

To be fair, I've just looked at the max temp charts from the op run and even the "cooler route" is pretty warm by UK summer standards. From today, max temps:

 

24, 25, 28, 30, 32, 33, 32, 33, 34, 28, 24, 20, 23, 27, 28, 26.

 

Only one day you could call "cool" for the south in that lot.

 

 

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To be fair, I've just looked at the max temp charts from the op run and even the "cooler route" is pretty warm by UK summer standards. From today, max temps:

 

24, 25, 28, 30, 32, 33, 32, 33, 34, 28, 24, 20, 23, 27, 28, 26.

 

Only one day you could call "cool" for the south in that lot.

 

 

Going to see 22C today to 32-33C in here by later next week only if the sun fully shine.  Today unexpected clouds forming since 7am despite horrible so fresh air didn't keep the skies clear as expected.

 

Its not just London - you know how to view charts for other cities I assume so I won’t post them here, but there is exactly the same pattern for Birmingham, Manchester and even Glasgow. 

Cumbria is one of the wettest spots in Europe. You can hardly expect it to have the same climate as the South East. It would be like living in Almeria and asking when are we going to get all that rain they’re enjoying in Asturias.

 

 

Indeed. Well put, and one of the most perennially annoying facets of TWO: commenting on summery weather for the majority of the UK population is somehow a faux pas, unless we also consider the weather on the top of Scafell Pike, the Aberdeen suburbs and the north face of Rockall.

Of course, the opposite strangely doesn’t apply in winter, when it is snowing on Helvellyn and the Derbyshire Peaks, but bang average tepid rain for 70%+ of the UK population. 

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Breaking news: People are usually interested in the weather where they are, not where someone else is.

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Breaking news: People are usually interested in the weather where they are, not where someone else is.

Not at all true, DrM. I always enjoy hearing what you have to put up with.

Roger

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6Z GFS keeps the heat going longer than the 0Z and takes it up to the 100F level.

Top temps from today:

24, 25, 28, 30, 32, 34, 34, 35, 37, 38, 31, 28

compared to

24, 25, 28, 30, 32, 33, 32, 33, 34, 28, 24, 20

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Of course, the opposite strangely doesn’t apply in winter, when it is snowing on Helvellyn and the Derbyshire Peaks, but bang average tepid rain for 70%+ of the UK population. 

….. or on top of Manchester City Centre, if our sparring from a few winters ago is anything to go by. ;-)

Anyway - I jest. 

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Not at all true, DrM. I always enjoy hearing what you have to put up with.

Roger

Yes, an odd comment. When the weather is interesting (and that’s the key thing) elsewhere in the UK or Europe most of us are very interested in it. And we don’t moan when others who live there express interest. 

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Yes, an odd comment. When the weather is interesting (and that’s the key thing) elsewhere in the UK or Europe most of us are very interested in it. And we don’t moan when others who live there express interest. 

I assume you mean the comment I was replying to!

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6Z GEFS show quite a shift towards heat. Control looks roasting.

The GEFS mean hits 33C on Thursday and Friday.

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Breaking news: People are usually interested in the weather where they are, not where someone else is.

IMBY post

 

😃

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….. or on top of Manchester City Centre, if our sparring from a few winters ago is anything to go by. ;-)

Anyway - I jest. 

 

I must admit I don’t recall that one! 😊

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Yes, an odd comment. When the weather is interesting (and that’s the key thing) elsewhere in the UK or Europe most of us are very interested in it. And we don’t moan when others who live there express interest. 

 

👍👍👍

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