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Essan
03 November 2019 15:06:45


 Normally, Met Eireann would have named these storms by now (they are normally very quick to do that), so where are they in all of this and don't forget as well, that the Dutch weather service have also now just joined this system.


 

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 



The MetO didn't name it because they didn't issue an amber warning.  Met Eireann didn't name it because they didn't issue an amber warning.  I don't know what criteria the Dutch use.


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Brian Gaze
03 November 2019 15:49:27


 



The MetO didn't name it because they didn't issue an amber warning.  Met Eireann didn't name it because they didn't issue an amber warning.  I don't know what criteria the Dutch use.


Originally Posted by: Essan 


I think an amber warning was issued by the UK Met.


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Broadmayne Blizzard
03 November 2019 16:39:41
I can only speak for my own locale but Saturdays storm seemed to cause more problems than several of the named one's this year.
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03 November 2019 19:20:34
I'm not a fan of storm naming but Saturday took some people by surprise in this part of dorsesh sic as the BBC called it, even though it was forecast.
The wind was quite impressive with 3 power outs.

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Gavin D
04 November 2019 15:28:17

Saturday 9 Nov - Monday 18 Nov


Saturday should start cold and frosty for most, with patches of fog expected in central and eastern England, which may be slow to clear. A band of rain and cloud is expected to move eastwards across the country into the evening, bringing strengthening winds for most and potential hill snow in the north. Sunday and Monday will most likely continue to be unsettled, and this theme will probably remain throughout the following week. Looking ahead to the later part of the period, although confidence is currently low, some snow is possible in the north, mainly over the hills, whilst the heaviest rainfall is likely to be concentrated across central and southern England. For most parts, it will remain colder than average throughout this period.


Tuesday 19 Nov - Tuesday 3 Dec


Through the second half of November and into December, confidence remains very low. The period may start more settled with cold, dry weather and widespread overnight frosts. More changeable conditions may occur in the latter part of the period in alignment with a switch to more frequent west and southwesterly winds over the UK. This could bring more unsettled weather, especially to western parts where there could be the possibility of gales. We can expect any rain to be heaviest across central and southern areas, with an ongoing risk of snow over hills in the north. There is also potential for stormy periods, and we currently expect temperatures to be below average until the end of the month.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

Gooner
05 November 2019 09:50:41


Saturday 9 Nov - Monday 18 Nov


Saturday should start cold and frosty for most, with patches of fog expected in central and eastern England, which may be slow to clear. A band of rain and cloud is expected to move eastwards across the country into the evening, bringing strengthening winds for most and potential hill snow in the north. Sunday and Monday will most likely continue to be unsettled, and this theme will probably remain throughout the following week. Looking ahead to the later part of the period, although confidence is currently low, some snow is possible in the north, mainly over the hills, whilst the heaviest rainfall is likely to be concentrated across central and southern England. For most parts, it will remain colder than average throughout this period.


Tuesday 19 Nov - Tuesday 3 Dec


Through the second half of November and into December, confidence remains very low. The period may start more settled with cold, dry weather and widespread overnight frosts. More changeable conditions may occur in the latter part of the period in alignment with a switch to more frequent west and southwesterly winds over the UK. This could bring more unsettled weather, especially to western parts where there could be the possibility of gales. We can expect any rain to be heaviest across central and southern areas, with an ongoing risk of snow over hills in the north. There is also potential for stormy periods, and we currently expect temperatures to be below average until the end of the month.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Interesting how the wording has changed from the previous day - too far out to worry about but worth watching given the current output 


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tallyho_83
05 November 2019 12:02:13


 


Interesting how the wording has changed from the previous day - too far out to worry about but worth watching given the current output 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


Yes Marcus! Yesterday's Met O's update was " Near average after mid November with more in the way of mild spells." and today's is "we currently expect temperatures to be below average until the end of the month."


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Gavin D
05 November 2019 14:02:53

Sunday 10 Nov - Tuesday 19 Nov


Sunday should be bright with scattered showers, potentially becoming prolonged spells of rain. It is likely to be another cold day, with a chance of wintry showers on the higher ground of the north. Sunday and Monday will most likely continue to be unsettled with showers expected in all regions, bringing potential hill snow to the north, whilst the heaviest rainfall is likely to be concentrated across central and eastern England. Looking ahead to the later part of the period, although confidence is currently low, snow is possible in the north over the hills, whilst the concentration of heaviest rainfall should continue to be located across central and southern England. There is a potential for occasional stormier periods. For most parts, it will remain colder than average throughout this period.


Wednesday 20 Nov - Wednesday 4 Dec


Through the second half of November and into December, confidence remains very low. The period may start with unsettled conditions, with the rain and wind expected to be more prevalent in the northwest of the UK. There is a likelihood that fog and frost could become more widespread than earlier in November, particularly in the south and east of England, with the fog potentially clearing slowly into the mornings. Throughout this period, there are indications that there could be a slow transition into more settled weather, especially in the south and east of England. This could mean that temperatures may return close to the average by the end of the month, although it could still be rather cold at times.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

tallyho_83
05 November 2019 14:25:10


 


 


Yes Marcus! Yesterday's Met O's update was " Near average after mid November with more in the way of mild spells." and today's is "we currently expect temperatures to be below average until the end of the month."


Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


 


EDIT:


"Slow transition to more settled weather - This could mean that temperatures may return close to the average by the end of the month, although it could still be rather cold at times."


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So not more unsettled weather with potential for stormy spells then?


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nsrobins
05 November 2019 15:55:42


 


I think an amber warning was issued by the UK Met.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


No Amber warning was issued in relation to Saturdays system. The existing yellow took a step along the bottom row to higher impact but low risk thus staying just yellow.


The cynic in me thinks they kept it just out of Amber to avoid naming it which is fine in my book because I think the whole naming thing is stupid.


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tallyho_83
06 November 2019 01:13:26
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https://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather/reports/month-ahead.htm 
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Gooner
06 November 2019 09:25:59

By weather online:

https://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather/reports/month-ahead.htm

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


Interesting but a pinch of salt needed with these 


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Brian Gaze
06 November 2019 09:33:24


 


No Amber warning was issued in relation to Saturdays system. The existing yellow took a step along the bottom row to higher impact but low risk thus staying just yellow.


The cynic in me thinks they kept it just out of Amber to avoid naming it which is fine in my book because I think the whole naming thing is stupid.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


 I genuinely thought I'd seen the Met put an amber out on Twitter but will take your word for it. Agree wrt the naming system. I read that the Dutch Met have been drafted in this year. 


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Gavin D
06 November 2019 10:43:31

BBC monthly outlook


Summary


Wet and cooler than normal for most of the month


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Wednesday 6 November – Sunday 10 November


Unsettled with a brief dry, cold spell on Friday


The second half of the week and into this weekend will continue with the unsettled and cooler trend we have seen recently, as low pressure remains in charge. After a chilly start on Wednesday, bands of rain will spread into the UK from the west through the morning and afternoon, although northern Scotland and the southeast will see a dry day overall, with rain arriving overnight. On Thursday, a band of rain will stretch through Central Britain although there is a degree of uncertainty just how far north the rain will get to. Further north, rain will turn more showery and eventually ease across Scotland, while southern England escapes with a mostly dry day, bar a few showers towards the south-west. Rain will clear to the south-east on Friday leaving much of the UK with dry and sunny weather.


However, it will remain rather chilly. Overnight temperatures will plummet and most of the country is expected to see lows below freezing. Fog too will develop across some central and south-eastern portions of Britain. A low pressure system is then expected to cross the UK from northwest to southeast on Saturday and into Sunday. As the warm front moves in over the colder air Saturday morning, there is the potential for some early morning snow in the hills of Northwest Britain, before any snow turns back to rain by midday. A wet and cool weekend in store, but with overnight lows milder than those expected Friday night.


Monday 11 November – Sunday 17 November


Drier for some; heavy rain in the north midweek


High pressure is expected to remain across Scandinavia through the second full week of November, which will help to send Atlantic weather systems further south than normal. These systems will tend to cross the UK heading southeast, travelling into France and Spain before reaching the Mediterranean. This will tend to keep the UK cooler than normal throughout the week. Towards the middle of the week, a strong easterly wind over the North Sea and into the northern half of the UK will develop. At the same time, there is the potential for some heavy rain too.


Further south, rain will be lighter and more intermittent with some sunny spells mixed in. The heavy rain will tend to ease later in the week as we start to see a slight rise in pressure. It will still be wet in places, but not nearly as wet as the middle part of the week. Low pressure will remain near or over the UK through the weekend, so more unsettled weather is likely. However, temperatures will likely begin to trend towards the seasonal average.


Monday 18 November – Sunday 8 December


Staying wet but turning milder into December


The second half of November is where the weather become a little trickier to forecast, as the UK nestles between two weather patterns. The first, a stubborn and strong high pressure system over Scandinavia, which would bring cooler and drier weather. The second, a more active period of weather over the North Atlantic bringing some wet, windy but milder weather. It looks, at the moment, as though the Scandinavian high will tend to decline as we head into December but will likely hold on for the bulk of November. What this means for our weather is that initially, we are likely to see slow-moving rain-bearing systems with cooler air and lighter winds.


The pattern will then shift, with the UK seeing shorter-lived but heavier bursts of rain coupled with brief windy spells. These frontal systems will tend to draw in more tropical air from the southwest as they cross the Atlantic, so temperatures should gradually return nearer to average (or perhaps a touch above average heading into December). Confidence is a bit low on what the Scandinavian high pressure area is likely to do in December. We are reasonably confident that any prolonged and unusually cold weather looks unlikely, and snow in low-lying areas is expected to hold off until later in the winter.


Further ahead


We will take another look at December's weather and see what is likely as we approach the Christmas period.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/outlook

Gavin D
06 November 2019 12:37:34

Monday 11 Nov - Wednesday 20 Nov


Another cold start on Monday with frost in central and eastern parts. Rain across Northern Ireland which will spread east erratically throughout the day, with the occasional heavier burst. There is also a possibility of hill snow across Scotland. The west may also experience strong winds with gales possible. The rest of the working week looks to remain rather cold and unsettled, with rain or showers for many as well as some snow over high ground in the north. Occasional stormier periods are possible in the south. Some overnight frost and fog is likely during quieter interludes. Towards the end of the period, more settled weather may become established in the south, as rain and stronger winds are displaced further northwest.


Thursday 21 Nov - Thursday 5 Dec


Through the second half of November and into December, confidence remains very low. The period may start with unsettled conditions, with the rain and wind expected to be more prevalent in the northwest of the UK. There is a likelihood that fog and frost could become more widespread than earlier in November, particularly in the south and east of England, with the fog potentially clearing slowly into the mornings. Throughout this period, there are indications that there could be a slow transition into more settled weather, especially in the south and east of England. This could mean that temperatures may return close to the average by the end of the month, although it could still be rather cold at times.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

Gavin D
06 November 2019 15:52:59

Met office 10 Day Trend


Low pressure
More rain
Colder than average


Next week

Feeling cold
Further rain and hill snow
Some drier interludes







 

Gavin D
07 November 2019 14:11:46

Tuesday 12 Nov - Thursday 21 Nov


On Tuesday, there will be sunshine and blustery showers for most, with some hail possible. There may also be some sleet at lower levels across the North, along with possible hill snow from North Wales northwards. Strong winds for many, with gales possible in the northwest, which will make it feel cold. The rest of the working week looks set to remain rather cold and unsettled, with rain or showers for many as well as some snow over high ground in the north. Occasional stormier periods are possible in the south. Some overnight frost and fog is likely during quieter interludes. Towards the end of the period, more settled weather may become established in the south, with more widespread fog and frost as rain and stronger winds are displaced northwest.


Friday 22 Nov - Friday 6 Dec


Through the second half of November and into December, confidence remains very low. The period may start with unsettled conditions, with the rain and wind expected to be more prevalent in the northwest of the UK. There is a likelihood that fog and frost could become more widespread than earlier in November, particularly in the south and east of England, with the fog potentially clearing slowly into the mornings. Throughout this period, there are indications that there could be a slow transition into more settled weather, especially in the south and east of England. This could mean that temperatures may return close to the average by the end of the month, although it could still be rather cold at times.


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/

Gavin D
07 November 2019 19:30:37

Flood warning: Stay at home, this is a major incident says council chief



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“Stay at home – this is a full blown incident.”


That’s the stark advice from a Cabinet member who says the city is struggling to cope with serious flooding following torrential rainfall. “This is not great, I am not going to lie to you,” said Coun Mark Jones, cabinet member for environment, streetscene and climate change. “The rain is going to get worse again tonight. We have a full emergency service running and we are monitoring the situation as best we can but we are inundated.


 




https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/politics/council/flood-warning-stay-home-major-incident-says-council-chief-919391

Gavin D
07 November 2019 19:31:38

Meadowhall Christmas Live 2019 CANCELLED at last-minute after flooding hits Sheffield



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Meadowhall Christmas Live 2019 has been cancelled due to flooding. 


The event was due to start at 6.30pm with acts including Jonas Blue, Fleur East and Ella Henderson set to perform. Sheffield has been battered by torrential rain all day with flood warnings in place and numerous roads closed.


Trains have been cancelled with the yellow tram route and the the tram train services terminating at Meadowhall South/Tinsley. A spokesperson from Meadowhall, said: “Due to the adverse weather and the subsequent impact this has had on the regional public transport infrastructure, it is with regret that the decision has been made to cancel this evening’s Meadowhall Christmas Live concert.


 




https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/weather/meadowhall-christmas-live-2019-cancelled-last-minute-after-flooding-hits-sheffield-919501

Gavin D
07 November 2019 19:32:41

Persistent rainfall leaves city streets of Sheffield flooded


 



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Heavy rainfall has left the streets of Sheffield flooded and emergency contractors working at "full capacity" to prevent further flooding. A council spokesperson said a "full emergency service was running" across the city, with one contractor saying the rain was "not far from biblical". Northbound exit and entry roads on the M1 at junction 34 for Meadowhall have been closed due to the adverse weather. The worst of the flooding is expected in the early hours of Friday.




https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50333233

Gavin D
07 November 2019 19:33:42

UK weather: Midlands and Yorkshire see half a month's rain in one day



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Rainfall could reach 100mm by Friday morning, according to the Met Office.


Commuters have been facing travel chaos in northern England as trains have been cancelled and motorists are blocked from travelling because of flooded roads. Parts of the north Midlands and Yorkshire have seen around half of the average November rainfall just today, the Met Office has said. More rain is expected this evening. Some 80 flood warnings and 109 flood alerts have been issued by the Environment Agency.


 




https://news.sky.com/story/midlands-and-yorkshire-see-half-a-months-rain-in-one-day-11856753

Surrey John
07 November 2019 19:45:37

The local online media has reported that Surrey will treat roads tonight, first time this winter


https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/gritters-heading-out-across-surrey-17219712


Roughly in centre of low pressure with fairly clear skies, so I guess could be some local fog patches


 


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Gavin D
07 November 2019 21:08:18

Weather online seasonal outlook




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Mild, wet December


January wintry at times?


Issued: Friday 1st November 2019
Duty forecaster: Simon Keeling


*December*



  • Dominated by a westerly flow.

  • Generally mild, few chillier spells.

  • Most rain Scotland, windy and wet here at times.

  • Drier to the south.


*January*



  • Cool west to northwest flow.

  • Wintry showers Scotland, northern England and Northern Ireland.

  • Risk of snow edging south.

  • Could be rather wintry at times.





https://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather/reports/seasonal-outlook.htm

Gavin D
08 November 2019 09:59:13

UK weather: 'Danger to life' severe flood warnings issued as river levels rise




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One police force in Yorkshire has told local residents to only leave their properties if it is absolutely necessary to do so. The Environment Agency has issued "danger to life" severe flood warnings as river levels rise and travel is disrupted across parts of northern England.


It has urged people to stay away from swollen rivers - with the flood warnings affecting the River Don. Sky's Sally Lockwood, who is in Doncaster, said the latest recording showed the River Don in the area had risen to 6.29m - the average is between 0.2m and 3.6m.


 





https://news.sky.com/story/uk-weather-public-urged-to-stay-away-from-swollen-rivers-amid-extensive-flooding-11857056

tallyho_83
08 November 2019 10:03:18


Weather online seasonal outlook




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Mild, wet December


January wintry at times?


Issued: Friday 1st November 2019
Duty forecaster: Simon Keeling


*December*



  • Dominated by a westerly flow.

  • Generally mild, few chillier spells.

  • Most rain Scotland, windy and wet here at times.

  • Drier to the south.


*January*



  • Cool west to northwest flow.

  • Wintry showers Scotland, northern England and Northern Ireland.

  • Risk of snow edging south.

  • Could be rather wintry at times.





https://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather/reports/seasonal-outlook.htm


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


I Posted and was discussed on previous page Gav!?


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