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ballamar
26 January 2019 16:45:52
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU12_252_1.png 

This is why the met see potential for a very cold outlook

Rob K
26 January 2019 16:45:52
GFSP still rock solid on a snow event starting in 72 hours.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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Notty
26 January 2019 16:48:04
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26 January 2019 16:58:57

Big growly salivating beast waiting in the wings at the end of FI


Rob

In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.

SJV
26 January 2019 17:08:35
Really interesting output this evening, from the (likely overly) deep low on the GFS, to the snow on the GFSP to the frankly excellent UKMO. Looking forward to the GEFS in a bit and of course the ECM later!
ballamar
26 January 2019 17:09:47

Big growly salivating beast waiting in the wings at the end of FI

Originally Posted by: RobN 

 

indeed would be a potent Easterly 

Whether Idle
26 January 2019 17:10:42

Really interesting output this evening, from the (likely overly) deep low on the GFS, to the snow on the GFSP to the frankly excellent UKMO. Looking forward to the GEFS in a bit and of course the ECM later!

Originally Posted by: SJV 

Yes, the good thing is, its only 6 days away, if we can get that chart to t96 things could be fun.


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Retron
26 January 2019 17:12:28

Apparently the zonal winds at 10hPa are about to return to westerlies as the effects of the SSW fade.  I wonder if that will result in even more uncertainty?

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

They have been westerly for a few days now, having switched back around the 21st, then after a couple more days of really weak easterlies they went back to westerly for presumably the final time this winter. More importantly, they're ramping up now rather than increasing really slowly.

That's already knocked the reversal down to the 30hPa level and that too ends in a couple of days.

In theory it's after that that the effects work their way down into the troposphere.

If anything, now that the SSW is over it should increase reliability a bit. There are never any gaurantees with the models though!

 

 


Leysdown, north Kent
Retron
26 January 2019 17:16:12

GFSP still rock solid on a snow event starting in 72 hours.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

A rain-to-snow event for those south of the M4 and/or east of Swindon:

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs-para/royaume-uni/precipitations/72h.htm

Could be very messy if that comes off.


Leysdown, north Kent
ballamar
26 January 2019 17:19:03

 

A rain-to-snow event for those south of the M4 and/or east of Swindon:

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs-para/royaume-uni/precipitations/72h.htm

Could be very messy if that comes off.

Originally Posted by: Retron 

 

best type of event, would catch a few people out

Maunder Minimum
26 January 2019 17:28:55
Model disagreement at t+120 says it all for me.

Crazy how the NWP cannot get a handle on 5 days ahead, let alone beyond that.

That said, I like the UKMO 12z output at the moment in favour of anything else.

ECM has been rotten of late - hope its 12z follows UKMO.


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The Beast from the East
26 January 2019 17:46:48

Big ECM moment tonight, but it has been party pooper of late


Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

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Brian Gaze
26 January 2019 17:54:00

Snow row page has been spruced up and now works properly on small screens. 

https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/snowrow.aspx

 


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Gavin D
26 January 2019 17:55:48

UKMO precipitation charts for Friday

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Ally Pally Snowman
26 January 2019 18:10:53

ECM has channel low at 72h 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
picturesareme
26 January 2019 18:11:32
Is there any chance if seeing lying snow over next few days in north east England?
SJV
26 January 2019 18:12:26

UKMO precipitation charts for Friday

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Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

Look at that. Precipitation charts 6 days ahead showing no snow 

Pack it up lads #winterisover 

(I'm not sure why you've posted those Gavin tbh? I get it is a model discussion thread but you've just posted FI charts with no text/point of discussion?)

SJV
26 January 2019 18:13:58

Is there any chance if seeing lying snow over next few days in north east England?

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

Tomorrow there will be wintry showers blowing in from the North Sea. Quite dry thereafter due to NW areas being more favoured.

Notty
26 January 2019 18:14:22
ECM 12z op also fancies snow for many next Tuesday

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2019012612/ECM1-72.GIF?26-0 


Notty

Pontypool, 132m asl

SJV
26 January 2019 18:15:27

ECM has channel low at 72h 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

Looks the wrong side of marginal for the south though, IMO.

picturesareme
26 January 2019 18:17:43

 

Tomorrow there will be wintry showers blowing in from the North Sea. Quite dry thereafter due to NW areas being more favoured.

Originally Posted by: SJV 

Thank you... I guess I won't be getting my hopes up then.

Ally Pally Snowman
26 January 2019 18:18:28

 

Looks the wrong side of marginal for the south though, IMO.

Originally Posted by: SJV 

 

The best ones are just the right side of marginal 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
SJV
26 January 2019 18:19:27

 

 

The best ones are just the right side of marginal 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

It's gonna be a close call isn't it!  

Solar Cycles
26 January 2019 18:20:19
My worry ( from an IMBY perspective ) is that these little features will end up too far south leaving us in a cold but dry scenario. I suppose if they were to track further north most of us would end up with cold rain. 🤪
Gandalf The White
26 January 2019 18:22:47

ECM has channel low at 72h 

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

Slightly south of the Channel and following the track predicted by GFSP and UKMO although the timing is slightly different.

By Wedneday noon it's away to the south-east - messy rain/snow mix initially but snow as the colder air is advected west - thickness (500-1,000 hPa) values down into the low 520s for much of the country here.  There's also another potent feaure over the west of Scotland.


Location: South Cambridgeshire

130 metres ASL

52.0N 0.1E



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