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Bolty
24 October 2018 16:39:35

That's what you call a proper Rossby wave.


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Gavin D
24 October 2018 19:15:03

The colder air shouldn't hang around too long temps on the up slowly from around Wednesday

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Maunder Minimum
24 October 2018 20:05:28

The colder air shouldn't hang around too long temps on the up slowly from around Wednesday

 

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

True, but it is still a highly and unusually blocked scenario - no sign of the zonal train arriving any time soon.


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johncs2016
24 October 2018 23:36:10

 

True, but it is still a highly and unusually blocked scenario - no sign of the zonal train arriving any time soon.

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 

In other words, the complete borefest in this part of the world look set to go on. This has to be the most boring autumn which I have ever encountered in terms of anything which is even remotely interesting actually happening with our weather and now, it is increasingly likely yo this is how it will end up.

The reason why I believe that is because if we did go into a more typical zonal pattern, that might be bad news for cold weather lovers when it comes to the winter, but this would probably be bringing some much needed rainfall to these parts (we have never had a single month with more than average rainfall since April, and we have been getting very little rain recently) and it would mean that something interesting was actually happening for once.

 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

roadrunnerajn
25 October 2018 05:39:32
Interesting low pressure showing over Eastern Europe by next Tuesday. With the embedded warm air to the east of the low I wouldn't be surprised to hear about violent storms and flooding.
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Rob K
25 October 2018 06:59:10

 

True, but it is still a highly and unusually blocked scenario - no sign of the zonal train arriving any time soon.

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 

Maybe not classic zonal but looking at the ensembles it certainly looks like being pretty wet for a while from the middle of next week.


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doctormog
25 October 2018 07:08:12

To be fair Rob for the time of year neither the ECM nor GFS 00z high res op runs is overly wet over the next ten days. There are some wetter options on the ensemble sets but nothing notable.

In fact after the colder snap in the coming days it does not look especially noteworthy in any one way, just a bit of “inbetweenness”.


tallyho_83
25 October 2018 08:14:35

Interesting low pressure showing over Eastern Europe by next Tuesday. With the embedded warm air to the east of the low I wouldn't be surprised to hear about violent storms and flooding.

Originally Posted by: roadrunnerajn 

Unseasonable warmth for Eastern Europe too next week:


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LeedsLad123
25 October 2018 08:39:00

 

In other words, the complete borefest in this part of the world look set to go on. This has to be the most boring autumn which I have ever encountered in terms of anything which is even remotely interesting actually happening with our weather and now, it is increasingly likely yo this is how it will end up.

The reason why I believe that is because if we did go into a more typical zonal pattern, that might be bad news for cold weather lovers when it comes to the winter, but this would probably be bringing some much needed rainfall to these parts (we have never had a single month with more than average rainfall since April, and we have been getting very little rain recently) and it would mean that something interesting was actually happening for once.

 

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 

I don't know why you keep going on about 'much needed rainfall' - are there water shortages in Edinburgh? Is drought imminent? No, so it isn't 'much needed'. 


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Solar Cycles
25 October 2018 09:26:38

Heights to our NE continue to grow from strength to strength, very usual for this time of year so as long as that big block to our NE remains in situ and the Atlantic continues to look flat with the Strat also still not showing any signs of getting its act together, then the chances of something tasty as we head into next month remains high.

johncs2016
25 October 2018 09:34:57

 

I don't know why you keep going on about 'much needed rainfall' - are there water shortages in Edinburgh? Is drought imminent? No, so it isn't 'much needed'. 

Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 

Actually, I would say that a drought IS imminent here.

Today will be the 12th day in a row at Edinburgh Gogarbank which has been completely dry if today stays completely dry and by the official definition, only another three on dry days are needed after that for there to be an official absolute drought at that particular station.

This is something which will therefore happen if there is no recorded rainfall at that particular station by the end of Sunday and since I'm still seeing little signs of any rainfall in the latest model out, that is enough to be able to say that a drought is imminent, technically speaking.

 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.

Devonian
25 October 2018 10:06:26

 

I don't know why you keep going on about 'much needed rainfall' - are there water shortages in Edinburgh? Is drought imminent? No, so it isn't 'much needed'. 

Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 

You need to see Dartmoor.

But, if the models are anything to go by, we might see some rain in the forseeable.

noodle doodle
25 October 2018 10:25:17

In other words, the complete borefest in this part of the world look set to go on. This has to be the most boring autumn which I have ever encountered in terms of anything which is even remotely interesting actually happening with our weather and now, it is increasingly likely yo this 

Originally Posted by: johncs2016 

Were you away for Storms Ali and Callum, John ๐Ÿ˜ƒ ?

Still stacks of branches lying about all over the place here. And the wind has died down today but for the past 72 hours it's been constant, averaging out at 25mph with up to 50mph gusts. I came home Tuesday and found a level foot of leaves covering the driveway to the side of my house, took me ages to squash them all in the garden bin.

ballamar
25 October 2018 10:29:12
Without looking at specifics the patter is interesting

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU06_186_1.png 

Lots of blocking and potential for sliding/sinking low pressure. PV might ramp up suddenly but at lease itโ€™s not zonal all the way through Scandi

ballamar
25 October 2018 11:03:12
Lots of blocking on this run - perhaps a couple of months of continental style weather akin to the summer which could result in some very cold conditions
Maunder Minimum
25 October 2018 11:22:50

Without looking at specifics the patter is interesting
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU06_186_1.png
Lots of blocking and potential for sliding/sinking low pressure. PV might ramp up suddenly but at lease it’s not zonal all the way through Scandi

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

Far out in FI:

https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?ech=204&code=code&mode=0&mode3h=0&runpara=0&carte=1

But GFS has a completely split vortex at t+384 - 10th November. If it does happen like that, would lead to an extended early winter very cold spell.


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Brian Gaze
25 October 2018 11:32:41
With the continued propensity for high pressure blocking another SSW is quite likely.
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ballamar
25 October 2018 12:00:08
Saint Snow
25 October 2018 13:18:52

With the continued propensity for high pressure blocking another SSW is quite likely.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

 

Can I place my order for an SSW toward the end of November, please.

 

 


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Solar Cycles
25 October 2018 13:49:11

With the continued propensity for high pressure blocking another SSW is quite likely.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Possible Grand Solar Minimum Effect at play here.

ballamar
25 October 2018 14:16:55
Usually at this point someone claims to know someone in the council ordering extra grit!!
Rob K
25 October 2018 16:34:36

GFS 12Z has a temporary covering of snow over the Downs on Saturday. Either that or a large seagull has flown over 


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Gavin D
25 October 2018 18:53:09

The 2nd half of next week could be very different to the 1st as milder air sweeps across Europe

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picturesareme
25 October 2018 19:05:13

GFS 12Z has a temporary covering of snow over the Downs on Saturday. Either that or a large seagull has flown over 

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

The metoffice are on to it...

 

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Rob K
25 October 2018 19:31:56

The 2nd half of next week could be very different to the 1st as milder air sweeps across Europe

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Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

Yes it does look as though after a brief cold blast the block may set up in a position that brings southerlies to the UK (and also traps Atlantic depressions over us, giving a rather wet spell into early November).


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