Maunder Minimum
25 October 2018 11:22:50

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

Without looking at specifics the patter is interesting
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU06_186_1.png
Lots of blocking and potential for sliding/sinking low pressure. PV might ramp up suddenly but at lease it’s not zonal all the way through Scandi


Far out in FI:


https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?ech=204&code=code&mode=0&mode3h=0&runpara=0&carte=1


But GFS has a completely split vortex at t+384 - 10th November. If it does happen like that, would lead to an extended early winter very cold spell.


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Brian Gaze
25 October 2018 11:32:41
With the continued propensity for high pressure blocking another SSW is quite likely.
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25 October 2018 12:00:08
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25 October 2018 13:18:52

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

With the continued propensity for high pressure blocking another SSW is quite likely.


 


Can I place my order for an SSW toward the end of November, please.


 


 



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Solar Cycles
25 October 2018 13:49:11

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

With the continued propensity for high pressure blocking another SSW is quite likely.

Possible Grand Solar Minimum Effect at play here.

ballamar
25 October 2018 14:16:55
Usually at this point someone claims to know someone in the council ordering extra grit!!
Rob K
25 October 2018 16:34:36

GFS 12Z has a temporary covering of snow over the Downs on Saturday. Either that or a large seagull has flown over 



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Gavin D
25 October 2018 18:53:09

The 2nd half of next week could be very different to the 1st as milder air sweeps across Europe


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picturesareme
25 October 2018 19:05:13

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


GFS 12Z has a temporary covering of snow over the Downs on Saturday. Either that or a large seagull has flown over 




The metoffice are on to it...


 


 


 

Rob K
25 October 2018 19:31:56

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


The 2nd half of next week could be very different to the 1st as milder air sweeps across Europe


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Yes it does look as though after a brief cold blast the block may set up in a position that brings southerlies to the UK (and also traps Atlantic depressions over us, giving a rather wet spell into early November).


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krusty
25 October 2018 21:05:54

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

Usually at this point someone claims to know someone in the council ordering extra grit!!


 


interestingly the fleet all reappeared at the gritter depot behind sandbach services since monday 


AND they have snow plough attachments in there too 


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26 October 2018 06:17:49

Meanwhile, east of the Urals winter makes a serious appearance - see chart for 2nd week.


http://www.wxmaps.org/pix/temp4


 


 


 


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marco 79
26 October 2018 06:20:41
ECM wants to keep a slack southerly drift over much of UK from late next week...GFS Op is more bullish with a rare Atlantic pattern about to set up....
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roadrunnerajn
26 October 2018 06:49:50

Originally Posted by: marco 79 

ECM wants to keep a slack southerly drift over much of UK from late next week...GFS Op is more bullish with a rare Atlantic pattern about to set up....


that probably means we'll get something in between.. More rain towards an already wet NW Scotland and mildish flat weather in the southern half of the UK. 


Its like we're in a state of limbo until the weather can decide which way to go!!!


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White Meadows
26 October 2018 07:09:36
Certainly looks wetter next week, regardless of temps:

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png 
doctormog
26 October 2018 07:22:45

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 

Certainly looks wetter next week, regardless of temps:

http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png


It is the little area of low pressure over the near continent that is responsible for much of that. Or, depending on which model you go with, several southerly tracking areas of low pressure moving across the country to the North Sea. Not overly pleasant.


White Meadows
26 October 2018 07:58:57

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 


It is the little area of low pressure over the near continent that is responsible for much of that. Or, depending on which model you go with, several southerly tracking areas of low pressure moving across the country to the North Sea. Not overly pleasant.


Quite. Goes to show a negative NAO doesn’t necessarily mean dry with dominant HP:


http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/nao_index_mrf.shtml


 

ballamar
26 October 2018 08:12:20
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/ECMOPEU00_240_1.png 

10 days away but loaded with potential for wintry weather - need the lows to slide and set up over the warm waters in the med!
Maunder Minimum
26 October 2018 08:19:22

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/ECMOPEU00_240_1.png

10 days away but loaded with potential for wintry weather - need the lows to slide and set up over the warm waters in the med!


There is always potential when the PV is disorganised - long may it continue.


The peculiar thing is that the more HLB there is the more likely it is to persist. That is why it is good to see it so early in the season - as we know from winters past, once the PV and the attendant zonal train gets into motion, it takes something like a sledge hammer in the form of a major SSW to shift it.


 


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beanoir
26 October 2018 08:55:08

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

Usually at this point someone claims to know someone in the council ordering extra grit!!


Was certainly tabled in a meeting I had in Bristol this week...


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