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Stormchaser
22 July 2018 18:38:15

More and more model runs are following a broad sequence of events that goes like this:

1. Thu-Fri trough doesn't get beyond Ireland and then serves to throw some new ridging toward the UK next weekend.

2. The next trough arriving in the Atlantic interacts with a disturbance in the plume over the Netherlands (or thereabouts), allowing it to lift out to the  north or northwest at some point between Sun 29th July and Wed 1st August (ECM 12z and probably UKMO 12z the soonest).

3. High pressure builds into the void left by the departing heat low, and serves to draw hot air across the UK from the near continent. At this point it may have been toned down a bit due to the departing disturbance taking some of the hot airmass with it, but unfortunately there are more than enough runs suggesting little or no modification to keep me nervous.


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T-Max: 32.0°C 12th Aug | T-Min: -5.4°C 4th Jan | Wettest Day: 31.8 mm 18th Dec | Ice Days: None

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Rob K
22 July 2018 18:41:31

 but unfortunately there are more than enough runs suggesting little or no modification to keep me nervous.

Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 

 

Don't see what's unfortunate about it. We can get boring nondescript weather any time. If there's a chance of getting records, whether hot or cold, then great!


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Caz
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22 July 2018 18:48:08

I’m enjoying the heatwave but don’t want to remember it for the wrong reasons. 

Contrary to my usual stance, I just hope it doesn’t become too severe. 

Originally Posted by: White Meadows 

  Then don’t remember it for the wrong reasons!  Enjoy the good weather and accept that your Gran had a good life to have lived into her nineties, but was no doubt fragile and vulnerable to many things, as well as the weather.  We all look naturally for things to blame initially, it’s part of the grieving process and quite normal, but I’m sure you’ll soon start to think pragmatically!   

Sorry, OTT but couldn’t help it!  


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xioni2
22 July 2018 18:55:11

More and more model runs are following a broad sequence of events that goes like this:

1. Thu-Fri trough doesn't get beyond Ireland and then serves to throw some new ridging toward the UK next weekend.

2. The next trough arriving in the Atlantic interacts with a disturbance in the plume over the Netherlands (or thereabouts), allowing it to lift out to the  north or northwest at some point between Sun 29th July and Wed 1st August (ECM 12z and probably UKMO 12z the soonest).

3. High pressure builds into the void left by the departing heat low, and serves to draw hot air across the UK from the near continent. At this point it may have been toned down a bit due to the departing disturbance taking some of the hot airmass with it, but unfortunately there are more than enough runs suggesting little or no modification to keep me nervous.

Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 

Easy of course for one of these troughs to disrupt just south of the UK with high pressure gradually building westwards and a mean E/NE flow developing in the first 10 days of Aug giving us plenty of sunshine and proper blue skies again (and without extreme heat)

David M Porter
22 July 2018 18:56:03

Hopefully at some point within the next day or two, we will start to get a better idea of what is likely to happen from the start of next weekend going forwards. ECM 12z seems keen on the idea of a temporary interruption to the mostly settled weather just over a week from now with HP then moving back in from the Azores and possibly joining up with the Scandi High.


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Ally Pally Snowman
22 July 2018 19:02:43

Met office going for 34c both Thursday and Friday in East Anglia. Definitely an upgrade of next week's heat this afternoon. 

 

 


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Rob K
22 July 2018 19:12:55

Heat resurgent by 240 hours on ECM.


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Stormchaser
22 July 2018 19:26:04

Don't see what's unfortunate about it. We can get boring nondescript weather any time. If there's a chance of getting records, whether hot or cold, then great!

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Yes, it's exciting and a decade ago I'd have been rooting for it, but having a 96 year old grandfather at risk has given me a personal reason to be concerned. It's a shame as I do otherwise enjoy seeing records fall, and can otherwise justify such enthusiasm by the fact that no matter how much we hope for or against an extreme weather event happening, it won't affect the chances, and that if it does come to pass, detesting it won't lessen it in any way. 

 

When it comes to this particular potential event, what strikes me is that there is an unusually high chance of the plume being both intense and staying across the UK more than just a day or two; with the Nino-like tropical forcing hitting its first peak in the first week of August, the Atlantic troughs will struggle to get close enough to force a quick breakdown of the likes we often see when intense plumes of heat are in play.

They could still manage it, GFS 12z style, but the 06z took a couple of days longer, and the 12z ECM looks ready on day 10 to bring a run of 3-4 days of hot to very hot conditions across England in particular;

ECM arrived at this point via precisely the sequence of events I described earlier, adding further weight to the idea. 


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TimS
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22 July 2018 20:38:07
It’s a competitive field this evening for most bonkers ENS run but GEM has the lion’s share of the most spectacular ones.

P14 has to take the prize though.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten.php?map=1&model=gem&var=2&time=318&run=12&lid=P14&h=0&tr=6 

>20C 850s for the whole of the U.K. and Ireland plus the Shetland Is. That’s right, the Shetland Is.

And the 20C isotherm is over somewhere in Britain from Thursday 2nd to Monday 6th Aug, including an extended stay off the coast of Aberdeenshire.


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White Meadows
22 July 2018 21:04:21

  Then don’t remember it for the wrong reasons!  Enjoy the good weather and accept that your Gran had a good life to have lived into her nineties, but was no doubt fragile and vulnerable to many things, as well as the weather.  We all look naturally for things to blame initially, it’s part of the grieving process and quite normal, but I’m sure you’ll soon start to think pragmatically!   

Sorry, OTT but couldn’t help it!  

Originally Posted by: Caz 

Thank you for your kind words.

now bring on the heat!

RobN
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22 July 2018 21:18:53

It’s a competitive field this evening for most bonkers ENS run but GEM has the lion’s share of the most spectacular ones.

Originally Posted by: TimS 

Yes, once again, it's bonkers chart time! There were some really excellent bonkers charts in the run up to the beasterlies early this year. It would be fun to save them all somewhere and at the end of the year (whilst we are waiting in vain for winter to arrive) have a "bonkers chart of the year competition"


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The Beast from the East
22 July 2018 21:19:22

It’s a competitive field this evening for most bonkers ENS run but GEM has the lion’s share of the most spectacular ones.

P14 has to take the prize though.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten.php?map=1&model=gem&var=2&time=318&run=12&lid=P14&h=0&tr=6

>20C 850s for the whole of the U.K. and Ireland plus the Shetland Is. That’s right, the Shetland Is.

And the 20C isotherm is over somewhere in Britain from Thursday 2nd to Monday 6th Aug, including an extended stay off the coast of Aberdeenshire.

Originally Posted by: TimS 

Back in late February, one or two ens members brought it the -20 isotherm. It didn’t happen of course. But perhaps the hot version of the Beast will deliver +20, but still a very long shot 


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Jiries
22 July 2018 21:37:23

It’s a competitive field this evening for most bonkers ENS run but GEM has the lion’s share of the most spectacular ones.

P14 has to take the prize though.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten.php?map=1&model=gem&var=2&time=318&run=12&lid=P14&h=0&tr=6

>20C 850s for the whole of the U.K. and Ireland plus the Shetland Is. That’s right, the Shetland Is.

And the 20C isotherm is over somewhere in Britain from Thursday 2nd to Monday 6th Aug, including an extended stay off the coast of Aberdeenshire.

Originally Posted by: TimS 

I wonder how high Shetland can get if that really come off as the highest record is 24C only but can it reach 30C despite with very small land area?

Brian Gaze
22 July 2018 21:55:55

Wouldn't be surprised to see 34C as soon as Wednesday.


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superteacher
22 July 2018 21:57:16
GFS 18z at T78 already has less influence from the LP.
golfingmad
22 July 2018 21:58:57

GFS 18z at T78 already has less influence from the LP.

Originally Posted by: superteacher 

Yes, and the uppers are just a little bit warmer too.

 


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Polar Low
22 July 2018 22:02:10

N24 update 2255 just said 33c in s/e maybe by Tuesday looked liked a upgrade

 

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Wouldn't be surprised to see 34C as soon as Wednesday.

SJV
22 July 2018 22:03:33

GFS 18z at T78 already has less influence from the LP.

Originally Posted by: superteacher 

Trough a little further west compared to the 12z.

SJV
22 July 2018 22:48:18

Hot plume primed and ready on the pub run; let's see how hot it gets...

Rob K
23 July 2018 01:35:39

Hot plume primed and ready on the pub run; let's see how hot it gets...

Originally Posted by: SJV 

only 36C on this run. Disappointing!


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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Crepuscular Ray
23 July 2018 06:24:01
As some of you salivate over potential plumes, the charts for this week show very average conditions for the next week here. Cloud, showery rain and 20-22 C for Ireland and Scotland. As usual it's an English hot spell!
Jerry

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moomin75
23 July 2018 06:45:12
http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png 

Wow. The briefest of brief cool downs on Saturday and Sunday, but still warm, then temperatures really take off again.

Long term trend is very clear. It's looking HOT HOT HOT. And very little in the way of rain too.

We are living through the best summer in our lifetimes folks.


Witney, Oxfordshire

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Chiltern Blizzard
23 July 2018 07:02:42


We are living through the best summer in our lifetimes folks.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 

Agreed, it’s the polar opposite of the winter of 62/63.... stuck in a rut of endless heat with the charts not showing any sign of respite. Incredible stuff!

 

 


Rendlesham, Suffolk 20m asl
TimS
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23 July 2018 07:10:39

As some of you salivate over potential plumes, the charts for this week show very average conditions for the next week here. Cloud, showery rain and 20-22 C for Ireland and Scotland. As usual it's an English hot spell!

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

It was 27C in Aboyne yesterday. And only 19C on the North West coast of England. 


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Rob K
23 July 2018 07:44:40

As some of you salivate over potential plumes, the charts for this week show very average conditions for the next week here. Cloud, showery rain and 20-22 C for Ireland and Scotland. As usual it's an English hot spell!

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 

Aberdeen ensembles don’t look too poor to me? http://old.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_Aberdeen_ens.png

 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl

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