moomin75
10 February 2017 13:00:09
Here I am in Bathurst NSW Australia and sweating my proverbial off. Far too hot and stifling and after a 26 hour flight I just wanted to sleep. Fat chance of that with temperatures still above 34°c at 23.30hrs. Going to be over 40°c tomorrow followed by a southerly change with a 40% of severe hailstorms. Well wouldn't it be ironic if the most white I see on the ground this year is in the midst of the hottest Australian heatwave in years.
I hope you are all getting buried in snow but somehow I think that's not happening.
Witney, Oxfordshire
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Essan
10 February 2017 16:50:27

It must be cold - just seen two people walking down the street eating ice creams 


(seriously!)


Andy
Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl
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Bolty
10 February 2017 17:15:26
-9/-10C 850s and pretty much thick overcast skies with very few breaks these last two days. Once again it shows that cold air masses aren't the sun-fests that everyone seems to think they are.
Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
My weather station 
doctormog
10 February 2017 17:24:41

Originally Posted by: Bolty 

-9/-10C 850s and pretty much thick overcast skies with very few breaks these last two days. Once again it shows that cold air masses aren't the sun-fests that everyone seems to think they are.


If there is one thing that easterlies are not in my opinion it is "sun-fests". Grey muck would be par for the course, or certainly for here.


Bolty
10 February 2017 17:30:56

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 


If there is one thing that easterlies are not in my opinion it is "sun-fests". Grey muck would be par for the course, or certainly for here.



I'm in Manchester on the other side of the Pennines and this one has seemed cloudier than a normal easterly. Even I've only seen about 10 minutes of sunshine today.


Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
My weather station 
Medlock Vale Weather
10 February 2017 17:40:27

Originally Posted by: Bolty 


 


I'm in Manchester on the other side of the Pennines and this one has seemed cloudier than a normal easterly. Even I've only seen about 10 minutes of sunshine today.



March 2013 was pretty dull here. And that was an easterly month. More western parts of NW England benefit more from an easterly in terms of sun. East Manchester tends to be just far enough east to have that dull North Sea effect.


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JACKO4EVER
10 February 2017 17:46:14
I actually saw the sun today,,,, for all of 20 seconds.
Another dire grey misty crapfest with cold dank drizzle turning to snizzle at times. The odd lump of graupel,,,, thoroughly disgusting.
Roll on spring
richardabdn
10 February 2017 18:11:18

Originally Posted by: Weathermac 


 


I must admit this Cold Easterly has left me underwhelmed it did not even get to freezing here last night yet in Easterlies past it was always sub Zero day and night so all in all very disappointing...Roll on Spring now.



Not true. Easterlies are a rubbish wind direction and always have been. It’s the likes of 1987 and 1991 which are atypical of what this direction usually produces.

Here’s an easterly set-up, very similar to this week’s, from February 1972:

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/archive/ra/1972/Rrea00119720219.gif 

It gave maxes of 5C in both London and Manchester with minima of 3C:

https://digital.nmla.metoffice.gov.uk/file/sdb%3AdigitalFile%7C8ab31ee4-8fa7-4e44-9ce9-aaea77300757/ 

Here it was also 5C with some drizzle and no snow. Worse than the current easterly which has given a low of -1.5C, a max of 2.7C and 1cm of snow that melted by lunchtime. Lame and pathetic but typical of an easterly which is why I detest them. Really wish it was true that there had been none since 1997


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Chunky Pea
10 February 2017 18:22:08

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 


If there is one thing that easterlies are not in my opinion it is "sun-fests". Grey muck would be par for the course, or certainly for here.



Easterlies are the best chance I have for seeing some proper deep blue sky sunny weather. Today was cloudy though but in a nice, mellow, defused sort of way like you would see in a summer plume. Very dry too with the relatively low humidity zapping up any remaining moisture on the ground.    


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Tom Oxon
10 February 2017 19:10:38

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


 


Not true. Easterlies are a rubbish wind direction and always have been. It’s the likes of 1987 and 1991 which are atypical of what this direction usually produces.

Here’s an easterly set-up, very similar to this week’s, from February 1972:

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/archive/ra/1972/Rrea00119720219.gif 

It gave maxes of 5C in both London and Manchester with minima of 3C:

https://digital.nmla.metoffice.gov.uk/file/sdb%3AdigitalFile%7C8ab31ee4-8fa7-4e44-9ce9-aaea77300757/ 

Here it was also 5C with some drizzle and no snow. Worse than the current easterly which has given a low of -1.5C, a max of 2.7C and 1cm of snow that melted by lunchtime. Lame and pathetic but typical of an easterly which is why I detest them. Really wish it was true that there had been none since 1997



 


Although if you look at Nov/Desc 2010 which was East /  North East, the whole country was in the freezer and there was a good lump of snow about.


All our classic cold spells like 2010 have one important element, and that's strong blocking in Greenland.   I can't get excited about Scandi highs if there's not GH to support it to allow deep cold to filter down.  This spell is case in point and it reminds me a lot of Feb/March 05 too.


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Essan
10 February 2017 20:28:02

Originally Posted by: Bolty 


I'm in Manchester on the other side of the Pennines and this one has seemed cloudier than a normal easterly. Even I've only seen about 10 minutes of sunshine today.




Cloud broke here for a time this afternoon towards sunset, which makes it the sunniest easterly on record     We dont usually get any glimpse of a blue sky at all.    So this isnt by any means the worst easterly in recent times.  


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nsrobins
11 February 2017 05:40:22

Originally Posted by: Tom Oxon 


 


 


Although if you look at Nov/Desc 2010 which was East /  North East, the whole country was in the freezer and there was a good lump of snow about.


All our classic cold spells like 2010 have one important element, and that's strong blocking in Greenland.   I can't get excited about Scandi highs if there's not GH to support it to allow deep cold to filter down.  This spell is case in point and it reminds me a lot of Feb/March 05 too.



Disagree. Perhaps you're being specific to your area, but for the many of the classic severe cold spells there wasn't a GH in sight - Jan 87 and Feb 91 to name but two.


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Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
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richardabdn
11 February 2017 08:45:46

The third revolting wet Saturday in a row 


Look's like the front-loaded winter forecast was correct. The first half may have had pathetically little frost and snow but the second half has been even worse. Not only less frost and snow but there's been a ridiculous amount of rain over the last two weeks and dismal amounts of sunshine. Just 14.6 hours sun all month so far and almost 90mm since the 28th Jan 


Truly dire outlook that will ensure this winter ends up with way less frost than even 2013/14. A sick joke. Only just made it to double digit count of frosts whereas even that horror show of relentless low pressure chalked up 17 air frosts. Also looks like every single week will return above average temperatures whereas in 2013/14 there were two colder than average weeks.


Worst winter I can remember just about sums it up. December was mind-numbingly boring, January was unbelievably frustrating with so many 0-1C minimum temperatures yet so little frost and February is the worst of the lot: an extremely unpleasant, vile and depressing month. 


Almost certain now to beat the record of 4 years 1 month without a decent snowfall of 10cm+ (Jan 87 to Feb 91).


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richardabdn
11 February 2017 08:52:05

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


 


Disagree. Perhaps you're being specific to your area, but for the many of the classic severe cold spells there wasn't a GH in sight - Jan 87 and Feb 91 to name but two.



 I agree with Tom that a Greenland High is generally required to get a decent cold spell. Those were very much the exceptions though I would only class Jan 1987 as severe.


The majority of easterlies produce rubbish like this. Most of the best snowy spells involve wind from the N or NE.


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Cumbrian Snowman
11 February 2017 09:14:54
What a pathetic winter - no sign of snow here, edge of North Pennines at 400feet - light rain and 2.7c

Will we ever see any lying snow this winter, looks very very unlikely now

Grim
idj20
11 February 2017 09:41:09

Have woken up to the thinnest smidge of snow this morning, as you may have seen in the Snow Reports thread. But I'm now officially done with keeping the heating on to prevent myself feeling cold and damp, roll on the 12 C under brighter skies by the middle of next week if some of the model outputs are to be believed.


Folkestone Harbour. 
Solar Cycles
11 February 2017 09:44:36
The last rites of an awful winter have now been performed, curently 3.7c with light rain which sums up aptly just how woeful any of these alleged cold spells we've supposedly seen has been.
Jiries
11 February 2017 10:03:56

I notice many British buy properties in the warmer climate countries but what about buying a property in USA or Canada then go and spend every winter there?  You can buy it there on both country as it allowed and with 6 month visa stay you can go there from mid-Dec to mid-March.  And having a property on standby if UK summer are poor to return back there to enjoy their hot thundery summer season.  Would work well if you have a business and get well enough income to cover your long stay abroad. I am looking into this when I start my online business here which I would get 2-3 more than I get in Royal Fail.  Now is not a right time to buy it there but when the dollars reach back to the levels before brexit then get it.  It was over $2CAD and $1.65 USD before.  I think some posters here have property in France? Still not bad as they get better summers and winters than here.  

Chunky Pea
11 February 2017 10:10:43

Skies must have cleared around dawn as the temp plummeted to a continental style -0.8c just after 8am.


Clear blue skies currently with super visibility.


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Retron
11 February 2017 10:10:58

Originally Posted by: Jiries 


I notice many British buy properties in the warmer climate countries but what about buying a property in USA or Canada then go and spend every winter there?  You can buy it there on both country as it allowed and with 6 month visa stay you can go there from mid-Dec to mid-March.



As I understand it, the USA and Canada can get a bit funny if you repeatedly take long holidays each year there - alternating between the two and using something like Airbnb to rent a place for 3 months each time might be a better idea.


That said, when I retire I will be moving somewhere cold and snowy, although depending on visas etc that might just be somewhere hilly "up north". Canada would be better but unless you plan to start a business (and have $2M) or have immediate family you're pretty much out of luck.


I can all but gaurantee that should I move, Kent will see a repeat of the late 70s to early 90s period all over again. :P


(And it seems just getting a cm of snow on the ground is impossible here - it really has been a crummy set of winters recently).


 


Leysdown, north Kent
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