What about all these rounded figures? It is possible there could at least be a 40.4C somewhere that hasn't been written down yet?

 

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What about all these rounded figures? It is possible there could at least be a 40.4C somewhere that hasn't been written down yet?

 

They have generally been pretty quick off the mark when a new record has been set so maybe nothing higher than 40.3. But Cambridge BG and Brogdale could be late entries.

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We need a serious upgrade to the way this works.

Why can't these weather stations transmit instantaneously like the ammeteur ones do?

 

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Just noting down the maxima from that Met Office tweet, for posterity - most of the stations that have beaten the old record (23 of the 29 they mention)

Coningsby 40.3C
Heathrow 40.2C
St James's Park 40.2C
Kew Gardens 40.1C
Northolt 40.0C
Charlwood 39.9C
Gringley on the Hill 39.9C
Cambridge NIAB 39.9C
Wittering 39.9C
Nottingham Watnall 39.8C
Bramham 39.6C
Woburn 39.6C
Bedford 39.5C
Monks Wood 39.5C
Sheffield 39.4C
Sutton Bonington 39.4C
Wisley 39.3C
Marham 39.2C
Holbeach 39.1C
Writtle 39.1C
Santon Downham 39.0C
Wellesbourne 39.0C
Coleshill 38.8C

Be aware that some stations are missing from that original MetOffice >38.7c tweet

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We need a serious upgrade to the way this works.

Why can't these weather stations transmit instantaneously like the ammeteur ones do?

 

 

Only 1 hour until we get to see the maxima from all the stations (barring the manual ones). I don't know if there are any other manual stations in the hot zone - there is a list of them somewhere.

 

Edit: see here https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/maps-and-data/uk-synoptic-and-climate-stations

 

Tetford and Denver are the only possible contenders I reckon, apart from CBG and Brogdale.

 

I saw a few people mention Waddington as a 40+ but had no confirmation yet.

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Yay!

It was bound to be hotter than 32.9 somewhere near the border

Carlisle got up to 34.4 (nd might have been higher in-between the hours) and I know the weather station used there is at the ex-RAF facility in the north of the city only 5-6 miles from Gretna across a flat plain near sea-level as the crow flies, so I reckon Gretna would have recorded the same figure +-1C

https://goo.gl/maps/keeiD2uwCuiybA28

Carlisle used to belong to Scotland so we can just claim it directly too

 

Another thing to consider is that the quoted temperature of 34.8°C at Charterhall is probably only the highest hourly reading for that station which helps to explain why it is only provisional just now.

It is only when the 18z SYNOP data comes in that we will know what today's actual maximum temperature was there and that applies elsewhere in the UK as well including those stations where the temperature has gone above 40°C.

This means that any record which has already been provisionally announced is likely to be officially declared with even higher values being confirmed for those records.

For here in Scotland, this means that we can't rule out the possibility of the new record actually being over 35°C once those actual maximum temperatures are known.

 

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What about all these rounded figures? It is possible there could at least be a 40.4C somewhere that hasn't been written down yet?

 

there are certainly a few manual stations that will not have reported yet and we may njot get the final figure for a few daysi  

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Only 1 hour until we get to see the maxima from all the stations (barring the manual ones). I don't know if there are any other manual stations in the hot zone - there is a list of them somewhere.

 

Edit: see here https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/maps-and-data/uk-synoptic-and-climate-stations

 

Tetford and Denver are the only possible contenders I reckon, apart from CBG and Brogdale.

OK, I really want to see one 41C.

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Another thing to consider is that the quoted temperature of 34.8°C at Charterhall is probably only the highest hourly reading for that station which helps to explain why it is only provisional just now.

It is only when the 18z SYNOP data comes in that we will know what today's actual maximum temperature was there and that applies elsewhere in the UK as well including those stations where the temperature has gone above 40°C.

This means that any record which has already been provisionally announced is likely to be officially declared with even higher values being confirmed for those records.

For here in Scotland, this means that we can't rule out the possibility of the new record actually being over 35°C once those actual maximum temperatures are known.

 

I'm not sure that's the case - the Met Office seem to get the instantaneous figures much earlier than us - they quoted higher figures than the hourly ones for Kew and St James's Park, among others - they never showed a 40C on the hour but the Met tweeted about them going over 40.

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6pm (1700Z) update:

WADDINGTON 39.2
SCAMPTON 39.1
Humberside 39
CRANWELL AUTOMATIC W 38.5
CONINGSBY AUTOMATIC 38.3
NORMANBY HALL AUTOMA 38.2
MONKS WOOD AUTOMATIC 38.2
WITTERING 38
Cambridge 38
London City 38
EAST MALLING 37.8


All those still at or above 100F at 6pm!

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I'm not sure that's the case - the Met Office seem to get the instantaneous figures much earlier than us - they quoted higher figures than the hourly ones for Kew and St James's Park, among others - they never showed a 40C on the hour but the Met tweeted about them going over 40.

Maybe its a kew thing though?

 

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Your profession is irrelevant. 

My main point is that people are entitled to hold different beliefs. I am not commenting regarding GW being a fact or fiction. What I am saying is that people can hold a different opinion to what is regarded as the consensus, and should NOT be belittled for doing so. I'm sick and tired of internet people cancelling debate that does not conform to their own belief, or labelling those who disagree as deniers or idiots. 

I say again, I am personally not making any claim either for or against GW. I am merely lauding the right of an individual to have an opinion. It is up to the community to then discuss and debate opinions. Closing down said debate does nothing to further anyone's understanding. 

I'll say no more on the matter.

 

Not for this thread really, but suffice to say that there is no room for opinion when it comes to clear evidence.

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Met has finally tweeted provisional max temps.

 

Coningsby 40.3C the top.

St James's Park and Heathrow 40.2C

Gringley on the Hill and Kew Gardens 40.1C

Northolt 40.0C

 

https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/1549448971676012546?s=20&t=orEGMISeC53v7iJKs67BBw

 

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We need a serious upgrade to the way this works.

Why can't these weather stations transmit instantaneously like the ammeteur ones do?

 

Same over here. We always get rounded top of the hour readings from official reports, but have to wait until the evening or even the next day to get the highest/lowest decimal reading. 

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We need a serious upgrade to the way this works.

Why can't these weather stations transmit instantaneously like the ammeteur ones do?

 

Because it’s not really that important is it?

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Does anyone know if the 850 temps have been higher than yesterday's record at Cambourne? Could they have reached 25C?

Met has finally tweeted provisional max temps.

 

Coningsby 40.3C the top.

St James's Park and Heathrow 40.2C

Gringley on the Hill and Kew Gardens 40.1C

Northolt 40.0C

 

https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/1549448971676012546?s=20&t=orEGMISeC53v7iJKs67BBw

 

All eyes on Cambridge BG then. Cambridge NIAB was 39.9c so I think there is a good chance.

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All eyes on Cambridge BG then. Cambridge NIAB was 39.9c so I think there is a good chance.

They should tweet the reading tomorrow. They can't open the screen to take the measurement until 10am :)

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They should tweet the reading tomorrow. They can't open the screen to take the measurement until 10am :)

What was NIAB in 2019?

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What was NIAB in 2019?

 

38.2C IIRC. So 0.5 below the BG.

 

Edit: no, that was the airport. NIAB was 38.1C. Apply the same correction and we get 40.5.

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