Ulric
20 November 2010 18:14:44

There are some odd links posted here from time to time but infowars really is the home of tinfoil hattery!


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bowser
20 November 2010 18:23:03

Ulric wrote:


There are some odd links posted here from time to time but infowars really is the home of tinfoil hattery!



The platform is irrelevant, what about the content?


Are these views never on mainstream media because they are untrue or because vested interests who control the main levers of mainstream media don't like them?


 

Gandalf The White
20 November 2010 18:42:22

bowser wrote:


Ulric wrote:


There are some odd links posted here from time to time but infowars really is the home of tinfoil hattery!



The platform is irrelevant, what about the content?


Are these views never on mainstream media because they are untrue or because vested interests who control the main levers of mainstream media don't like them?


 



Well I am afraid I lost interest and respect for the author at this point:


Climategate ringleader and CRU head Phil Jones


 


There's scarcely any point in taking someone seriously if that is the standard.


 


 


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four
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20 November 2010 19:21:00

You stopped just at the point it starts to get difficult to explain away.


Essan
20 November 2010 20:09:00

four wrote:


You stopped just at the point it starts to get difficult to explain away.



On the contrary, he stopped exactly at the point it was obvious a tinfoil hat was needed.......


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Essan
20 November 2010 20:15:10

AIMSIR wrote:


I also wonder are there any areas where there is local anthropogenetic cooling?.



It's complicated, but yes


http://www.pnas.org/content/102/15/5326.full


http://www.suite101.com/content/environmental-impact-of-asian-brown-cloud-a81477


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Solar Cycles
20 November 2010 20:23:28

Ulric wrote:


There are some odd links posted here from time to time but infowars really is the home of tinfoil hattery!


The source is irrelevant, the content is sound. The only ones needing a tinfoil hat, are those with their ideological agendas nailed to the mast! Oh I forgot I need to put a 

AIMSIR
20 November 2010 20:28:06

Essan wrote:


AIMSIR wrote:


I also wonder are there any areas where there is local anthropogenetic cooling?.



It's complicated, but yes


http://www.pnas.org/content/102/15/5326.full


http://www.suite101.com/content/environmental-impact-of-asian-brown-cloud-a81477


Well done ,I have to say.Essan.


cheers.

Gandalf The White
20 November 2010 22:54:05

Solar Cycles wrote:


Ulric wrote:


There are some odd links posted here from time to time but infowars really is the home of tinfoil hattery!


The source is irrelevant, the content is sound. The only ones needing a tinfoil hat, are those with their ideological agendas nailed to the mast! Oh I forgot I need to put a 



The source is irrelevant.  The language chosen displays a clear lack of respect and/or a clear sceptic agenda.  Sorry, but if someone has to resort to unnecessary rudeness then I am not interested.


Completely unnecessary and exactly why sceptics lose any moral high ground.



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Gandalf The White
20 November 2010 22:55:38

four wrote:


You stopped just at the point it starts to get difficult to explain away.



No Four, I stopped at exactly the point I said that I stopped for the reason that I stated....


I really don't need you making weak attempts to second guess my motives thank you.  Play nicely or go and play somewhere else.


Childish one-liners are indicative that you have nothing worthwhile to contribute here. 


 


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130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Ulric
20 November 2010 22:59:11

bowser wrote:

The platform is irrelevant, what about the content?


Are these views never on mainstream media because they are untrue or because vested interests who control the main levers of mainstream media don't like them?


Quite right. Prince Philip is a baby eating reptile and Pricess Diana was murdered by MI5. The banking crisis is a Jewish conspiracy to bring about world communism and David Icke is Gods appointed representative on Earth.


I wonder why you don't read that in the mainstream media?


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four
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20 November 2010 23:04:45

So the email scandal is brushed aside just like that?
I think a few smirky comments about tinfoil hats and reptilian monarchy doesn't quite work for me and millions of others.
That sort of approach only increases the suspicion things are being glossed over.

And Gandalf, you can threaten, patronise and bully as you like but you won't stop me posting here.


Gandalf The White wrote:


  Play nicely or go and play somewhere else.


Childish one-liners are indicative that you have nothing worthwhile to contribute here. 


 



four
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20 November 2010 23:08:10

Gandalf The White wrote:


  Sorry, but if someone has to resort to unnecessary rudeness then I am not interested.


Completely unnecessary




Well that takes the biscuit.


bowser
20 November 2010 23:17:09

four wrote:


So the email scandal is brushed aside just like that?
I think a few smirky comments about tinfoil hats and reptilian monarchy doesn't quite work for me and millions of others.
That sort of approach only increases the suspicion things are being glossed over.

And Gandalf, you can threaten, patronise and bully as you like but you won't stop me posting here.


Gandalf The White wrote:


  Play nicely or go and play somewhere else.


Childish one-liners are indicative that you have nothing worthwhile to contribute here. 


 



Head in the sand presented as all-knowing smugness = politician 


Devonian
20 November 2010 23:30:33
four wrote:

So the email scandal is brushed aside just like that?
I think a few smirky comments about tinfoil hats and reptilian monarchy doesn't quite work for me and millions of others.
That sort of approach only increases the suspicion things are being glossed over.

And Gandalf, you can threaten, patronise and bully as you like but you won't stop me posting here.


Gandalf The White wrote:


  Play nicely or go and play somewhere else.


Childish one-liners are indicative that you have nothing worthwhile to contribute here. 


 




Please don't play the victim four.

I'm well aware of what has been said here recently. Do I have to quote back to you some of your language and tone?

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Gandalf The White
21 November 2010 00:42:52
Who exactly? SC isn't going.

Sometimes you make very odd comments.
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Solar Cycles
21 November 2010 06:17:17

Gandalf The White wrote:


Solar Cycles wrote:


Ulric wrote:


There are some odd links posted here from time to time but infowars really is the home of tinfoil hattery!


The source is irrelevant, the content is sound. The only ones needing a tinfoil hat, are those with their ideological agendas nailed to the mast! Oh I forgot I need to put a 



The source is irrelevant.  The language chosen displays a clear lack of respect and/or a clear sceptic agenda.  Sorry, but if someone has to resort to unnecessary rudeness then I am not interested.


Completely unnecessary and exactly why sceptics lose any moral high ground.



Sorry Gandalf but I take exception to lurid remarks when anything is posted which questions  "alleged" unethical behaviour. Tinfoil hats brings what to the debate exactly? 

Gandalf The White
21 November 2010 10:53:48

Solar Cycles wrote:


Gandalf The White wrote:


Solar Cycles wrote:


Ulric wrote:


There are some odd links posted here from time to time but infowars really is the home of tinfoil hattery!


The source is irrelevant, the content is sound. The only ones needing a tinfoil hat, are those with their ideological agendas nailed to the mast! Oh I forgot I need to put a 



The source is irrelevant.  The language chosen displays a clear lack of respect and/or a clear sceptic agenda.  Sorry, but if someone has to resort to unnecessary rudeness then I am not interested.


Completely unnecessary and exactly why sceptics lose any moral high ground.



Sorry Gandalf but I take exception to lurid remarks when anything is posted which questions  "alleged" unethical behaviour. Tinfoil hats brings what to the debate exactly? 



Hi SC,


If you look back you will find that that wasn't my expression.


I stand by my comments.  Again, if you look back you will find that all that I do is to highlight when something comes from a sceptic website or blog.  I don't make rude comments except in response to others.


If someone has a valid point to make it should be possible to make it without ironic, sarcastic or disrespectful comments.  You don't get those in scientific papers so why do they need to appear in sceptic 'analysis'? 


As you know, because you and I have been able to exchange views in a civilised manner, I am perfectly happy to exchange views on whatever level the other person wishes to set. 


 



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52.0N 0.1E


Solar Cycles
21 November 2010 11:29:29

Gandalf The White wrote:


Solar Cycles wrote:


Gandalf The White wrote:


Solar Cycles wrote:


Ulric wrote:


There are some odd links posted here from time to time but infowars really is the home of tinfoil hattery!


The source is irrelevant, the content is sound. The only ones needing a tinfoil hat, are those with their ideological agendas nailed to the mast! Oh I forgot I need to put a 



The source is irrelevant.  The language chosen displays a clear lack of respect and/or a clear sceptic agenda.  Sorry, but if someone has to resort to unnecessary rudeness then I am not interested.


Completely unnecessary and exactly why sceptics lose any moral high ground.



Sorry Gandalf but I take exception to lurid remarks when anything is posted which questions  "alleged" unethical behaviour. Tinfoil hats brings what to the debate exactly? 



Hi SC,


If you look back you will find that that wasn't my expression.


I stand by my comments.  Again, if you look back you will find that all that I do is to highlight when something comes from a sceptic website or blog.  I don't make rude comments except in response to others.


If someone has a valid point to make it should be possible to make it without ironic, sarcastic or disrespectful comments.  You don't get those in scientific papers so why do they need to appear in sceptic 'analysis'? 


As you know, because you and I have been able to exchange views in a civilised manner, I am perfectly happy to exchange views on whatever level the other person wishes to set. 


 



My scorn wasn't directed towards yourself Gandalf. Ulric has an habit of trying to de-bunk anything sceptical, with distasteful political nonsense. 

Ulric
21 November 2010 14:30:55

If someone throws a tinfoil hat into the ring and I say,"Oh look, a tinfoil hat!", that isn't a political position. It is merely an observation that a tinfoil hat has entered the ring and I am consequently expressing a sceptical position on tinfoil hats.


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